Goodbye to Mimosa in the USA

Beeker · #1 06-02-2006, 17:52

It's come down the pipe that the US is going to stop all import and sales of dry plant material that contain DMT. No Mimosa, no nothing. Say goodbye to my favorite plant teachers. fuck you America.

Now I have to grow phalaris or something..

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big news announcement without any backup evidence, or articles.

IHrtHalucingens · #2 06-02-2006, 18:14

Thats terrible news. Do you know when this will take effect?

Pinkavvy · #3 06-02-2006, 19:24

raedon- Please post an article, or official government announcement about this.

raven3davis · #4 06-02-2006, 19:39

Yea SWIM would like confirmation. Would this mean that mimosa is now illegal or does it just mean that is cannot be imported. SWIM doesnt think this has taken effect and has heard nothing of this but an article would be nice. IF this is true its the worst news in a while since farming is not an option for some.

this is very sad news to SWIM.

Beeker · #5 06-02-2006, 20:22

no just bulk dried material that has no use. I have nothing I can point to just have an old friend who is a pilot for the XXX. He gave me a call and said that there was a meeting about the possible future enforcement of imported dried plant materials from south america.

Pinkavvy · #6 06-02-2006, 20:27

raedon- thanks for your second hand gossip, but your private sources and buddies are not enough reason to state something as fact. This isn't a play ground of rumors, this is a forum to discuss drugs... and by making a statement like that without any backup other than "my buddy told me so" is not contibuting to the site at all, infact it takes away from the site by adding yet another thread that holds no weight.

In the future, when you hear something like that, mention it in an existing thread that you heard from a buddy that may or may not know anything that xyz may be in the future. Do not state rumors as fact. Thank you

Beeker · #7 06-02-2006, 20:29

Sorry, it just pissed me off.. I so sick of the drug war. Delete the post and expect the worst.

Abrad · #8 06-02-2006, 20:40

There was talk on another forum that most of the ethno vendors have stooped selling it because of customs problems.

bman1 · #9 06-02-2006, 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by abrad84

There was talk on another forum that most of the ethno vendors have stooped selling it because of customs problems.

Swim thinks this might also have something to do with the Alan Shoemaker case.

condo_pygmy · #10 07-02-2006, 01:33

This will just introduce New teks for trypamine plants that grow here in the US. The alkaloid % may be slighlty lower than MHRB, but not much will change. There'll be more experimenting with plant materials, And someone will just get a new tek down pat, who knows it may be more effective & less cost since it doesn't have to be imported !!!

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good point

Pinkavvy · #11 06-02-2006, 20:45

swim's having no problems, neither are swims friends.

**Alfa** · #12 06-02-2006, 21:20

For vendor specific information, see the sources forum.

raven3davis · #13 07-02-2006, 02:47

There are other teks, some good for growing specific plants that contain D but it just seems that the mimosa extractions are the most popular because of the easiness of the process. SWIM means if you look at mars ek and follow it you will get D. The other teks arent quite so clear cut but maybe experimentation will lead to more discoveries. Does anyone have any sitations for this, and also do you have any information on Alan Shoemaker? SWIM has only heard of one bust with d containing plants and he believes it was B cappi vine but not sure.

So they stoped because of customs problems? That really sucks. If they do bann it is going to be hard to ship bulk amounts of bark so it will probably be long gone.

times infinity. What has this world come to? There is no right to pursue happiness, that should be a fundamental right but it is the one that we are least able to enjoy. Bummer.

Hopefully this is just specifically for a few vendors who are having problems. They are getting so strict about this stuff the day surely will come weather it is no or in a few months down the road. Hopefully one day our society will know more about this magnificant tool and respect it for what it is. The teks have come so far in the last few years SWIM is sad to see all the hard work put into research being largley ignored and such a harmless chemical even being illegal. Maybe one day the world will learn but the way things look society (one in particular) is just going down hill.

freemynd · #14 08-02-2006, 02:10

SWIM did notice that MHRB is missing from xxxxxx...strange?

EDITED BY MARSOFOLD. NO DISCUSSION OF SOURCES HERE!

jaguarangel · #15 05-03-2006, 10:33

This seems strange after a court in New Mexico passed the religious use of Ayahuasca by the UDV.

**Alfa** · #16 05-03-2006, 15:47

No, it is actually caused by this ruling of the suppreme court.

freemynd · #17 08-03-2006, 06:52

If the above is true - is it still safe to order online? SWIM noticed that some vendors don't have it anymore. Anyone know a link to this ruling - or if it's final?

glorf · #18 08-03-2006, 12:39

the only related supreme court ruling that i know of is this:

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/022206supcourt.cfm

has anyone tried emailing the former suppliers? speculation is cheap, but it wouldn't surprise me if any problems are due to Customs. its not like they have to let it in, and really i'm surprised that they have thus far. the growing trade and the huge number of threads at various sites dealing with MHRB are IMHO unwise, unless the aim was to shut the MHRB trade down. you know, the squeaky wheel and the nail sticking out deal.

**Alfa** · #19 08-03-2006, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotMonkeyAC

Anyone know a link to this ruling

Now where would you search for a file?

freemynd · #20 08-03-2006, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa

Now where would you search for a file?

Well, I don't suppose it would be a file - but more a link on say the supreme court's website (ie http://www.supremecourtus.gov)

glorf · #21 08-03-2006, 23:11

the pdf with the link name "Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do Vegetal (UDV), Supreme Court Opinion" on the page that i gave above would certainly be a good place to find one.

**Alfa** · #22 09-03-2006, 01:57

I suggest you browse this site and figure out how it works here. It's right under your nose.

genaro · #23 28-03-2006, 11:56

I suggest you all people make some big kilogram stock of your favourite dmt plants and favourite harmaline plants (let's say caapi, harmala, psychotria and mimosa, 5kg of each so you're ok for the next 10years)

freemynd · #24 29-03-2006, 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by genaro

I suggest you all people make some big kilogram stock of your favourite dmt plants and favourite harmaline plants (let's say caapi, harmala, psychotria and mimosa, 5kg of each so you're ok for the next 10years)

why is this?

TheAngryGolfer · #25 30-03-2006, 05:11

this rumor has been proven false.

the vendor who had the problems importing does not have the problem anymore. apparently the stuff was seized by the USDA because the packages were opened and contained plant material... not by customs because of anything illegal.

and that particular vendor reportedly has some EXCELLENT bark in stock right now.

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