Ghb causing dry, itchy skin.

[u4ic]

Swim has been experiencing unusually itchy and dry skin, including dandruff after a couple weeks of what he would consider mild, occasionally BDO usage. Not like the 24/7 dosing he was up to around 5 years ago. This was before op webslinger went into effect in the U.S. effectively shuting down all sites selling G or G related chemicals to the public. This side effect is troubling. Swim is wondering if it's because his body was preconditioned to it or maybe it's connected specifically to BDO. The only other theory is the impurities in the indutrial grade BDO. Which is unlikely in my opinion. The stuff claims to be min 99% pure which might mean 99.98%. I have read toxicology studies done with industrial grade BDO to determine the risk to the people who are occupationally exposed to it on an ongoing daily basis. The risks appear to be minimal, and the LD 50 it pretty damn high with this stuff. So if anyone has any theories as to why this happens I'm sure swim would love to hear them as this is causing him to discontinue usage of one of his favorite drugs. One which he has come back to with lessons learned and only minimal use in mind. Possibly uses like getting off harder drugs.

[Amenselah]

any type G derivative causes this..it can be mild to severe....

[u4ic]

Thanks for the info. That eases my mind some. It's just really weird what happened to this guy. Swim used to do g heavily, all forms. He got cut off for a few years. He got some bdo and has been using it occasionally. Only now when he does it I can tell because he gets really dry lips and hands. He had rashes on the tops of his hands. It just tears him up to where he doesn't want to do it very much. He thought maybe it was the quality, that it had some impurities. Which is a possibility, but who knows. It just sucks cause he likes it but doesn't want to take it because of the sides and unknown content/purity. It's really sucks that someone can't get a pure/safe product he really likes because of bureacracy. The policies suck and don't work.

[Amenselah]

no solvent sold on the underground maker (gbl or bdo) is safe anymore sorry to tell...

SWIM can get a crystal clear glb-->ghb .that is about 97% percent pure..

we could be all getting posing by the heavy metals in this solvents...
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[felixdahousetwat]

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I know someone who is glad to hear he's not the only one suffering from this now and again with GBL use. (Never had it with GHB use, however.)

The worst affected place is in the 'moustache' area. No amount of creams help and the guy is surprised that the large amount of vitamin c being ingested within all the orange juice (used as a mixer) doesn't help.

Clearly the best solution is to stop taking the drug in question... but do we have any more theories on what causes this? Or what can be done to negate or minimise the effects?

Is it possible that the *dilution* may have a bearing on this? Namely, should 2ml of GBL be diluted in say, 100ml of orange juice (for example) rather than downed quickly in a shot glass of approximately 10ml? Just a theory...

[garbled]

Instead of vitamin C, up the intake of B complex vitamins. GBL usage is reported to use up the body's B complex store. And stick with the shot, but perhaps use 30ml total. For fun, warm it in the microwave for 10-15 seconds, to the temperature of coffee. Results? Faster onset.

[felixdahousetwat]

Originally Posted by garbled

Instead of vitamin C, up the intake of B complex vitamins. GBL usage is reported to use up the body's B complex store. And stick with the shot, but perhaps use 30ml total. For fun, warm it in the microwave for 10-15 seconds, to the temperature of coffee. Results? Faster onset.

thanks for the advice mate, it's worth a try and certainly won't do any harm. will report back on this subject later.

[MrG]

Originally Posted by amenselah

no solvent sold on the underground maker (gbl or bdo) is safe anymore sorry to tell...

SWIM can get a crystal clear glb-->ghb .that is about 97% percent pure..

we could be all getting posing by the heavy metals in this solvents...
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You often state that current GBL supplies are contaminated by heavy metals. What evidence do you have to support this?

I have done research into the industrial GBL production methods to locate possible areas where impurities could become an issue and have found no part of the process that would lead one to believe that GBL contains heavy metals.

After all, any supplier who is based in a country where GBL is legal will have got their stock from an industrial supplier, not some back-street GBL synthesis.