mom found weed

[trish]

my friend is a minor. her mom found her weed in her purse in her car. her mom has had a particualr police officer keeping an eye on her becuase she got in trouble for not being home before.

my question is that in michigan united states, can my friend get in legal trouble for having weed, a pipe, 5 lighters, zigzags, and probly more stuff if her mom were to tell the police on her.

her mom said she is gonna talk about it with her and her brother after school because it was found late last night when their dad is there.

she has a feeling the police might be there..

what can her mom do? send her to a juvenile facility? nothing? what can she do

help...has anyone here gotten caught? if so any tips?

[Solidly-here]

Caught asks: "in michigan ...can my friend get in legal trouble for having weed, a pipe, 5 lighters, zigzags, ... if her mom were to tell the police on her."

Well, let's see now. In Michigan, Weed is illegal. If someone HAS Weed, this act itself is illegal. And if a person has Weed, then it makes a pipe and Zig-zags illegal paraphenalia also.

This is a 2-part answer. First, if her Mom went to the Police station with a bag of Weed, a pipe, and some paraphenalia, the Police could arrest her Mom for possession.

Second, if Mom turned in some Weed and paraphenalia at the Police station, and claimed she got it from her daughter, this would give the Police probable cause to interrogate the daughter. If the daughter admitted that the Weed was hers, then they could arrest her for possession.

A TIP: If I was the daughter, I would not say that the Weed was mine. If a person does not admit to possession, then it's just the Mom's word. This will put the DA in a quandry, and (probably) no one will be charged for possession. (This scenario has been played-out many times before, a parent turning-in a child, and it is up to that child to do like Nancy Reagan does: "JUST SAY NO.")

And remember, if a Cop asks you a question (any question) you have the right to remain silent; at a time like this (if she doesn't want to deny owning the Weed), it is (much) better for her to remain silent.

After any initial arrest, the local District Attorney decides whether or not to file charges for possession.

* * * Bonus Edit * * *

To illustrate a point: About 20 years ago, a pissed-off Dad went to the Police Station. He had just found a half-Pound of Weed in his Son's room. Sonny boy admitted that he was selling it at School. Dad angrily asked to talk to a Detective. Once in a Conference Room, he told his story. He opened the Paper Bag, and showed a large Baggie, filled with little Baggies, each filled with Weed. Hmm. After a quick talk with his higher-up, the Detective arrested Dad: Possession for Sale. This way, Sonny Boy had to admit the Weed was his. Then off to Teen-Jail for a few Months. The charges against Dad were dropped.

Whew! Dad will never do that again. Maybe, your Swim's Mom will get a taste of this one too: Surprise! (and smile for the camera.)

[trish]

thankyou for telling me that. it was already verbally admitted to the mom that the weed was hers. from now on she will say that it is not hers.

oh and the cop is someone that her mom sort of knows and does her favors...that makes it a bit scarier

[788.4]

Originally Posted by caught

thankyou for telling me that. it was already verbally admitted to the mom that the weed was hers. from now on she will say that it is not hers.

oh and the cop is someone that her mom sort of knows and does her favors...that makes it a bit scarier

Maybe this is the mom's way of "helping" her daughter? I doubt she wants her daughter to be arrested or even put on probation. She probably just wants her cop friend to scare her daughter.

It sounds like your friend needs to step up her game and find better ways of hiding her weed, and needs to get her mom to trust her (so she can get away with stuff more easily).

[trish]

UPDATE:
swim's friend got home yesterday after school with her brother. they went into the kitchen and ate a little after school..so far saw no parents.

10 mins later their mom showed up and didnt say anything about it (was talking a little about other stuff and seemed to be in a rather good mood based on the situation)

swim's friend's mom left to go to the bank

10 mins later their dad showed up and said to swim's friend "you should be ashamed of yourself. letting your brother smoke pot"

swim's friend went up to her room and watched tv to ignore it.

when their mom got back swim's friend and her brother were upstairs and the parents were downstairs.

basically, they had the weed talk without being face to face.

swim's friend's mom said that she has an appointment with the officer tomorrow(now today) and that someone will be watching swim's friend's car on the way to and from school, when they are home alone every night for 3 hrs there will be someone watching the house, etc. everyday

is that legal?!

swim has a feeling that the friend might be questioned today since the appointment today.

swim also thinks that the friend's mom is probly taking all of the "stuff" with her to the police officer.

this would probly be the time that swim's friend wants to be quiet.

a problem is that swim's friend's bother is conviced that they should just deny everything (say no and yes in ou\r favor) swim thinks its a better idea to remain silent and answer NO questions.

what would you recommend?

[Pinkavvy]

as a juvinal, probably a first offense, your friend will get a mere warning most likely perhaps required to attend treatment.

By the way, make sure to let your friend know that here at DF we do not recomend or support drug use by minors. Marijuana shouldn't be used medically by a minor without the consent of their parents. //blah blah blah and all that legal mumbo jumbo.//

[Solidly-here]

Caught. The Soap Opera continues:

"Someone will be watching swim's friend's car on the way to and from school, when they are home alone every night for 3 hrs there will be someone watching the house, etc. everyday. is that legal?!"

Sure it is. Watching a person while they drive back and forth to school is not only legal, but it is safer too.

Then: "swim's friend's bother is convinced that they should just deny everything (say no and yes in our favor) swim thinks it's a better idea to remain silent and answer NO questions. what would you recommend?"

As I said to you in my PM, the Forum rules forbid you from telling us about a Future Crime you (or another) are going to do.

Now, another rule: Do not ask us to advise you to have someone break the law in the future (i.e., lie to a policeman). This is even worse. This makes us an accomplice, of sorts.

Remaining silent, however, is perfectly legal.

* * * Bonus Edit * * *

In your reply to my PM, you asked me: "correct me if i'm wrong, but are you the sober one here who helps out?"

YES and NO. At this Forum we are ALL here to help others follow the rules. If someone else disobeys a rule, the Forum may get shut down. So, to protect the Forum from dying, each of us (especially Gold and Platinum members) is entrusted with the duty to help others (especially Newbies) to NOT disobey rules.

So, instead of barraging you in the Thread, I PM'd you quietly. Peace, and enjoy the Forum.

[trish]

what swim means is that swim's friend has to talk to a police officer today. should swim's friend be silent and not answer any questions or should swim's friend say yes or no in their favor? swim doesnt think that q is against rules is it? swim isnt saying they will do a crime...just asking what swim's friend should do when talking to the police officer.

[pharmapsyche]

Well, I would think that her mom could get her into trouble, considering the fact that she has proof of her daughter's drug use, and by that i mean, she had the weed and a pipe. They, as being in the police can't do anything about having 5 lighters or even zigzags becuase both are legal to have in possion since they are suppose to be used to tobacco use. Although, it would be hard for the mom to get the daughter in trouble, since there really isn't any proven effidence that it was the daughter marijauna and pipe. Beucase for all they know, it could be the mom's, even though that wouldn't really make much sense. I would imagine that her mom called the police and they came over and saw the pot and the pipe, her mom would just be asking for trouble also, considering the fact that now the marijuana and the pipe is in her possision.
To be honest, the whole sisution sounds a bit strange, espeically when you stated that your friends mom has a cop watching her closely, isn't that considered something along the lines of stalking? And is her mom a cop too, because it's not like you can just hire a cop to watch your daughter footsteps to make her she doesn't get into trouble or mess around with drugs. The whole things seems a bit odd to me. SWIM is just glad she has never had to experience anything of this sort.
SWIM thinks her mom might just need a hit and she'd feel a lot less angry, haha!

[788.4]

Do not lie to the police. You can protect yourself by not consenting to talk to them.

[Solidly-here]

Pharmapsyche wonders: "your friend's mom has a cop watching her closely, isn't that considered something along the lines of stalking?"

Well, NO. If I was concerned about the safety of my daughter (using Illegal drugs, for instance), I could ask for an adult to follow her around. I have a responsiblity to protect the life of my child. If I am nervous about something she is doing (or MIGHT be doing), I have the right to follow her around. If I wish to delegate some of that "following her around" to another person, I am within my parental rights.

I, as parent, am THE person who decides whether or not to report this to the Police. Who else has the authority? (I doubt a child can start any Police inquiry, after the Police find out that her parent asked for the surveilance to occur. And certainly, if the parent is concerned about his daughter's self-admitted Criminal activity.)

And, if a Policeman is indeed the person following her, it is easily within his Job Description: Surveilance of a possible Criminal activity. This is their bread-and-butter, watching Drugies.

This situation would be completely different if this person who was following my child was doing so without my permission. In that scenario, an old boyfriend (or child molester, or other stranger) would be stalking her (and without a valid purpose). This COULD be illegal, depending on the circumstances. But even in this scenario, it would be up to the parent to call the Police and complain about it.

[pharmapsyche]

Originally Posted by Solidly-here

Pharmapsyche wonders: "your friend's mom has a cop watching her closely, isn't that considered something along the lines of stalking?"

Well, NO. If I was concerned about the safety of my daughter (using Illegal drugs, for instance), I could ask for an adult to follow her around. I have a responsiblity to protect the life of my child. If I am nervous about something she is doing (or MIGHT be doing), I have the right to follow her around. If I wish to delegate some of that "following her around" to another person, I am within my parental rights.

I, as parent, am THE person who decides whether or not to report this to the Police. Who else has the authority? (I doubt a child can start any Police inquiry, after the Police find out that her parent asked for the surveilance to occur. And certainly, if the parent is concerned about his daughter's self-admitted Criminal activity.)

And, if a Policeman is indeed the person following her, it is easily within his Job Description: Surveilance of a possible Criminal activity. This is their bread-and-butter, watching Drugies.

This situation would be completely different if this person who was following my child was doing so without my permission. In that scenario, an old boyfriend (or child molester, or other stranger) would be stalking her (and without a valid purpose). This COULD be illegal, depending on the circumstances. But even in this scenario, it would be up to the parent to call the Police and complain about it.

well, not to get into too much abou this, but that is a sad story! If you really thinks that she needs that much help, take her to drug and alcohol rehab, not get her in trouble. From a teenagers point of veiw, that just looks shaddy on your part. If you really wanted to help her, you wouldn't be hiring different police men to watch her every moves, you'd talk to her, and then maybe think about drug rehab...come on! SWIM doesn't even think smoking marijuana is even bad, she said that maybe you are just missing out on something great!

[motorhead]

I want to know how a cop has the time to watch a 16yr old kid 24/7 on the suspision that they may or may not have some weed, all on the whim of a 'friend' wink wink nudge nudge. There must be more to this than parents being worried that their kid is smoking pot.

[trish]

thanks for the replies. yes swim thinks being silent is the best way. nothing about the situation has been heard yet.

[kemistudent]

lol! I remeber when my mom found my pot when I was 17, a good 10 years ago. She never said a word to me about it.. I hid it under the couch, a good 1/4 oz of juicy primo and all I can remeber is this akward silence she gave me with the occasional grin when I looked at her with a suspicious stare.

A few years later we were drinking some beers at a party and she came clean. I asked her if she flushed it down the toiled and was relieved she didn't.

She smoked pot the whole time she was pregnant with me, and low and behold, I was born at 4:20 pm, something I have been proud of ever since I saw I my birth certificate many years ago.

[Nagognog2]

I am surprised that your mom didn't walk in on you balling a watermellon. Then you might have found some diazepam to feed your monkey!


<Lyrics to bad punk song: I saw my mommy as I balled a watermellon! She shot me a grin and I shot her like a felon! Took my 9mm to the Zoo! Seeing if a monkey was there to screw! Watermellon Sex! Watermellon Sex! Timothy Leary spare my bail! Get my Watermellon out of Jail! Watermellon Sex! Watermellon Sex! Oh Yeah!!>

[kemistudent]

awe man, I can't believe the watermellon went to jail! what the hell is this world comming to!

[Muirner]

Just a thought. Solidly talked about rules on the forum. Caught Just so you know it is against the rules to double post, that includes this thread and your emancapation thread you never replied to...

Anyways when your talking about admiting to stuff, most of the time telling the truth will help you out. The only real time to plead the 5th (stay silent) is when your going to incriminate yourself to another crime... If your mom already has you by the balls (or overies in this case) then just admit and appoligize... I'm sure no matter how small your town a cop will not follow your friend around very often. If he just happens to pass by the cop then sure he might give a second look, but it's not like from the time your friend gets up the cop will be watching his car, until the kids bedroom light goes out at night.

It's ok, everyone gets caught, just suck it up and move on... Count your weed and any parafinilia as a loss...

Muirner