Don't get me wrong, swim
appreciates all of your feedback. He just isn't ready to make that jump to sobriety yet. It's funny you mention the 4 days turning to 3 days turning to a binge for a special occasion. Swim has DEFINITELY experienced that and seen how his brain can play tricks on him. A vacation/being sick is often a good excuse as well.
Swim is 27 years old, and started out by popping vicodin that him and his friends would steal from their parents somewhere around the age of 20-21. Then, swim's friends dad had ultram which really got him into opiates
because of how long it lasted and the energy it gave him. He was able to procure large amounts of ultram from online pharmacies and of course would use whatever percocets, vicodin, etc he could buy/scrounge up from people around him as well. He used to use the stuff only on the weekends until he went through a hard week in his life where he made an excuse to do it more often. Seeing no harm yet, that continued and continued, finding more excuses and having his brain play tricks on him to get him to take it. Then, he started getting oxy, and that ended quickly because of the price so it was time to go to tar. That went on for a few months. He even grew his own poppies and harvested 3 or 4 hundred pods which gave him lots of fresh opium
and tea. Then, he realized something called pain management existed and of course that's where hes been for the past 6 months.
Swim has other medical conditions that are alleviated by the opiates. That's one of the main reasons that this class of drugs
appeals to him so much. He also began to not be able to tolerate alcohol
which left him with nothing to do when everyone was at a bar/party except take some opiates ahead of time.
Yes, your posts definitely have an impact on swim in the future. Maybe even right now. You kind of bummed him out by putting the class of drugs in such a negative view. He often comes to these boards when he is during withdrawals to get comfort from others having the same problem or reads posts about people getting clean and how great life is.
I honestly made this post to just try to see if I could get an objective answer to the original question. I didn't really get one, but will get one by watching swim first hand now. It wasn't all for waste and do appreciate your support!
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And there we have it, a 20mg dose sent swim back into withdrawals, but at like 50% symptoms, maybe less...weird. He has major cravings, which are about about 100% they would normally be during wds. He wonders how long these will last?