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Old 04-02-2005, 08:06
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Woodman, I am in China right now! I am not Chinese though, so I do know that proverb and it's a good one.


By "come-backs" (an action coming back at you) I mean-- if you (a hypothetical person) snitch on a dealer and he knows, he will snitch on you and so on... Personally, I may have more to lose than he/she! I am not standing up for rip-off merchants, just worried about my own safety!


Axeman, why is a baker's dozen 13?


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Old 04-02-2005, 08:26
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well put woodman,merchants
ARE responsible for their product.if all merchants
feared being busted, we`d rarely get a bum deal.
ever wonder why a bakers dozen is 13?
Thanks Ax, but I'm just saying that I sincerely hope to
see drugs legalized in my lifetime.

This can NOT be accomplished if the prevailing
elements of the underground drug culture are
determined to use (and accept) jail-house ethics as
an economic default to standard commerce only
when it comes to drugs.

I'm glad you understand.
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Old 05-02-2005, 16:54
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First off of course I think Rip offs are B.S. But the narcing thing are
you really talking about narcing to the cops because that would be
pretty stupid, and you talk about removing the criminal element but to
be blunt about it that would include yourself. Also think about it
there are scam artists everywere not just in the drug world so if
people are willing to take the risk of riping someone off involving a
perfectly legal deal then the cops will deffinatley be called on them
of course there are people who will do it with drugs More of them
because they know that the cops will not be called
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Old 05-02-2005, 22:11
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... and you talk about
removing the criminal element but to be blunt about
it that would include yourself.
That works only if you take the position that drug
users are criminals. They are not!

Just because drug use is illegal does not make drug
users criminals; they may be breaking the law, but
that does NOT make them criminals.

During the middle of the 19th century it was against
the law to aide a runaway slave. Using your logic, i
suppose the people responsible for establishing
and maintaining the underground railroad were all
criminals?

I think not.
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... the narcing thing are you
really talking about narcing to the cops because that
would be pretty stupid, ...
... of course there are people who will [rip someone
off ] with drugs More of them because they know that
the cops will not be called
So on one hand, you're saying it's stupid to call the
cops, while on the other hand you're saying that it
emboldens dealers to perpetrate fraud because
they KNOW you're not going to call the cops.

Thanks, joemomma!

You've just PROVED my point.
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:26
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Woodman, are you as muscle-bound as I picture a man who would snitch out lowlifes who fuck people over to get their bread daily???? Aren't you ever concerned for your own safety?To me man, you must be 8 foot tall by six foot wide, a virtual tank not vulnerable to the revenge of the snitched.

Have you ever actually snitched or were you just really pissed when you wrote that?

I disagree, I actually think your position is petty, dangerous, and the only good thing I can say about it is that you posted that on open forum, without fearing being labeled, disliked, judged.

So I applaud you for having the guts to write that... While it screws with my the part of my brain that knew you as a smart, discreet person who is fun to communicate with.

This other snitch shit, I'm going to try to blow it off. I have said how I feel, I know we can't change your mind..




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Old 08-02-2005, 08:41
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You are really acting stupid yes we are criminals we break the law when
we buy drugs there for we deal with criminals in buying drugs so What
the fuck do you expect
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Woodman.

Under the current laws, drug users are criminals. That's because drug
use is criminalized. Back in the day the folks at the undergroung
railroad where criminals. I'm not saying they where right or wrong, but
they where in fact criminals.

Due to the fact that you operate in an illegal market, you gotta admit
that there are many risks involved in letting the authorities know of
your mishappens. [such risks come in a variety of forms like 357
magnum, desert eagle .50, and so on...]



Sure I've gotten ripped-off a few times, but I just take my bussiness
elsewhere [in matters of quality], or I negotiate to a point when I'm
no longer getting ripped off [in matters of quantity], but never
crossed my mind speaking with the authorities.



You can't compare the effects of your action when snitching on a
restaurant [who's gonna get a fine], to snitchig on a dealer [whose
life you're gonna ruin].



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The world of drugs should be lived as knights in the Middelages, by codes of honour. When someone fucks u, u have ur honour to defend. Dont run 2 the cops, solve ur own problems. When u and ur dealers keep to the code their will be no problems but a perfect economical situation. When one of you brakes the codes, their will be consequences. If this consequence is murder or just purely economical(just going 2 another dealer) is ur choice.

U must live by the codes because their are no laws in that world. No higher authority. Cops arent part of that world. Why embrace the law partially? The day u just get robbed u can call the cops because thats what they are there 4.

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when hunter s. thompson ran for mayor of aspen he was going to initiate a law where there would be a hotline to call if you were ripped off on drugs. the individual who was shady would be tried and if found guilty would be placed in a stockade for his sentance.
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The world of drugs should be lived as knights in the
Middelages, by codes of honour. When someone fucks u, u have ur honour
to defend. Dont run 2 the cops, solve ur own problems. When u and ur
dealers keep to the code their will be no problems but a perfect
economical situation. When one of you brakes the codes, their will be
consequences. If this consequence is murder or just purely
economical(just going 2 another dealer) is ur choice.



U must live by the codes because their are no laws in that world.
No higher authority. Cops arent part of that world. Why embrace the law
partially? The day u just get robbed u can call the cops because thats
what they are there 4.



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that. You fuk around with the cartel, they put a bullet in the back of
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Old 17-02-2005, 03:40
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Would you trust those who run drug cartels any more than the police? Is there honour amongst thieves?
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Yes their is honour among thieves. I see it myself every day. Its a good life when everybody respects each other. But when things go wrong they really go wrong.

Their r several stories about that. See the Godfather or cidade de deus(city of god.) When one person runs a ghetto its peacefull and good living in the ghetto. What most people here about are the ghetto wars. Thats because there are struggels 4 power. Thats bad living. When 4 instance one mob family is in power their are no written laws but laws according to honour. Usely based on christian ethics. Eye 4 an eye. Stealing, dealing and rape are not permitted.
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Quote:
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Do you guys think it's acceptable to narc on somebody
who rips people off? I've heard of people doing this before & I
personally think that narcing is narcing no matter how much of an
asshole the person you're narcing on is.</font>


I couldnt agree more
because you were there to buy the drugs from the person in the first
place, so more or less your saying if u dont get your way you will cry
about it... i'm sorry but if u cant look at a bag and see if it's right
or at least real close, then ask your boy to bust out his digi and see
it for yourself... SWIM here tells me of back in the day when he sold
and if someone asked to see something on a digi then it was done like
that...



But then again, someone who burns you or shorts you should get a nice
punch to the face... but SWIM will sympathisize with everyone who has
gotten burned because his first bag was about .6 and he paid 20$ U.S.
ouch



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I somehow must agree with Muirner

It's a crime to let a fool keep his money u know.

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I somehow must agree with Muirner

It's a crime to let a fool keep his money u know.

Is this to say that you never agree with me and my posts , anways i do have an honest question for you post when u said "It's a crime to let a fool keep his money u know." can u elaborate that? it might be that i just woke up and i'm still wicked asleep but i'd enjoy to know.


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if somebody is a pathetic type and has a history of ripp offs, yes, get them
off the streets, letthe police haul them away we don't need scumbags all
over the place we need nice safe streets and good bud. if the dealers try to
rip you off snithch that dog turd. if you show up with pipes and weapons
then you are as pathtic as the deelr no?? would you report a pick pocket?ys?
a rapeist? yes. a thug? get that fuckr off the rd now.
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liston anyone who snitches in my opinion is a b**ch. either learn ur shit and not get ripped off or do something about it like say i donīt know..........kickthe dealersf īen ass. get real and donīt wine. shit happens so deal with it or suck it up, if u canīt then well, u canīt play the game so get out. simple as that. sorry if i sound heated but im pretty pissed that i actually hear people suggest snitching.
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I somewhat agree with woodman is saying here.



I've had this idea for awhile now to organize a bunch of people all
over the country to sit in front of their local DEA office (or federal
building) and use drugs while holding signs that say things like "not a
criminal" and "who am i hurting?" If we could just choke out all the
holding cells and processing areas in the country with nonviolent
activists, maybe then some eyes would be open.



During the civil rights movement, activists sat down where they weren't
allowed and broke all kinds of unjust laws, that's the only real way to
get them changed. The only problem is they had a lot less to lose since
they wore their differences on their skin and their lives were already
messed up because of it by default.







how many people truly care about this injustice enough to screw up
their lives with arrest records for it? i'm not even sure i do.

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Ask yourself this, what would a big macho rip off type person do if they
were
ripped off at a local tire store or discount store or if they overpayed their
electric bill etc and the establishment refused their refund.if they were
overcharged on their property tax? These thugs would be getting a lawer
and suing. and crying and sobbing o the man rip me off o the man done
like me beca i a getto creep-fuck that stupid shit.i be dumby,
Irt is your duty as an evolved citezen to get criminals(people who take
advantage of cannabis/drug laws to steal from innocent people) put away
where they belong, away from me, the city, and everyone who is law
abiding.
Honest, don't protect rip offs. because later on they will steal from your
mother, they will rape your sister and they will laugh at you as you gasp
for your last breath. HOnEST I swear , there is NO zero nilch honor
amound thives! crim families have some fuchnin moron cocde of ethics
that is bullshit(they get fuckin everythin, you get the charizooooo)
Simply stated for anyone with an iq over 10 whay would you protect a
thief??? a bully and a bully is really a coward who singles out weaker
folks.
No, it would be EASY! to send an anomous letter to the dea and give them
as much info as you have, do it( but only for rip offs, use your freakin
head man)
Do NoT give your name. that rip off will never know who did him, do not
tell your friends, do not tell your friends do not tell yourfriends-do you
get it???
Next time your mother gets raped you will have yourself to blame
because these rip offs -are- the bad seed of the human race, they are
geneticly messed up, they cannot live honestly they cannot live without
stealing, you are crazy to protect them because if they don't get you
personally later on a distant frien or innocent girl will be taken.
Rip offs are cowards who over exagerate their macho making up for
feminine genes inside. they look, sacn the horizon for weeklings an
women to fck over, are you crazy use your heads tugs are not tolerated in
amsterdam....drugs are. yep drugs not thugs heheh
Honest, no real man steals, no real man rip off, no real man rapes no real
man would try to trick gullible innocent people into-not telling- shh don't
tell that i rape you it aint cool hahahahahahahahabout their
stealing...what a joke fuck anyone who steals anything! your house is
next friend, is that the world you want to build for your childrens,
children??quit protecting inferior ape like people, because only apes do
these things.sorry frined, if you steal your a fucking APE! no ifs.
remember write your info down and mail it to the dea, let them handle
the rest do not phone or use your name that way the monkey ass thugs
cannot do what they do best- ape you out! haha or rape you satisfying
power over women/satisfying hidden homsexual trates,honest, most of
these types are in fact predator, potentially violent homosexuals, usually
men, who enjoy plaing with you butt and your wallet and destroying your
confidence-fight back!!!!!! NO MORE CRIMINALS!
enjoy your reefer all cool people
remember....AMSERDAM is a Model city of the future everything is legal ,
smokey, snorty. but one thing is not tolerated, senseless crime, and rip
offs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! restore order to our socierty and get rid of bad
people so only good, kind, pure and honest folks, people that are higher,
closer to god, clsoer to kindness, closer to the plant they use
anyone who uses cannabis as a mafia gtool or as a war gamnes is so
stupid as to not be worthy of drink and food, earth is overun with monkey
race.
You as a decent citezen to not be fooled into protecting idiots who would
sell out you and snithc on you very quickly to save ther hide, think!!!!!
Pufffffff Pufffffffffffffffff Puffffffffffffffffff Pufffffffffffffffff Aaaaghhhhhhhhh
Sacdly, police are not immune from monkey mind, one side of cion rapist
thug(petty rip offs evolved) the other sidhe is coppy woppy,BOTH the
same ne practicing criminal one wrestling with criminal tendicees( their
own)!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha- hey everyne -is -and apart of this folks
WAKE up lremove rip offs from our streets make america something like
amsterdam what are you fried you can't tell right from wrong anymore.
geeezzzzzzzwer like big red hey man you are a whiner listen to you
poop! " i;m a macho dude, I will rule using machismo, I'm bigger(an
stupider) gimmee all your legos, gimme your toys,get in the closet i will
moless u noe I'm strupid an use thug tactics
You are so insecure, stupid and inferior, say, help make the world a better
place and propmtly overdose.
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I totally aggree with what more justce just(justice)saide
the world sucks mostly, but a few good people are left
also-don't be a stupis add-don't rat your buds for smokin your joint while
you were sllepin. don't rat your dude for shortin u a gram for assidently
sellin low quality onse in awhile-rat ourt those that are total rips
scumtrash if u cannabis tell the dant then ??
if its a street dude who rips chances are he'll hang in the same area soon
later, just mail a description of his mug the to narcs fuck rip offs. when
you get a day off get your camera an crusie that hood snap his pic(fast
run away or drive away cuz he might use his cowardly gun to bang bang
you like a movie, like a kiddee game) mail the pic to the narcs-the'll be
enthused(they are primitive too) to hunt him down kinda like a kiddee
game of matchin the square hole to the square peg-don't be a round
hole-haha-get it??? take out the trash(white garbage bag color or black
garbage bag color it makes little did to me) the way mommy n daddy
show u.
Peace to all lovely people peacenow, peaceful imagine all the thugs are
gone now.Imagine...no cops, no thugs, no government wait im in hevn.
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listen man -(guest), the drug community should deal with drug related things such as bad dope or a ripp offs on there own terms, like a good ass wupin. no way in hell would swim unite with the cops to gain revenge (and im not talking about rape or murder, but drug deals) if u do u are nothing but a along with them, and further more in my eyes a bitch. It is a society and culture on itīs own and has itīs rules, do not snitch. this is out of respect for fellow drugies and a rule wich keeps it safe. a rip off is a crime within the relaionship of drug users and is not on the same leval as a rape or murder. we do not talk to police, they are our enemies and we do not help them, even if it is to help each other, we take care of our own alone.
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I have been riped off a few times and it was manly my fault ie. giving my money to people who are shady and not trusted.
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bing-fucking-go Mr.GreyApple, sometimes it canīt be helped, happened to swim too and u can bet i sucked it up and learned.
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[QUOTE=Woodman]
Quote:
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]There are some problems
though: (a) who decides when a dealer shloud be
'punished'? (b) How to stop 'come backs' to your self.


i totally agree with woodman...but there problems lies in the fact that its hard to take revenge on a scammer in a way that is beneficial. you can cost him some business, fuck him up physically, etc...but in the end (as swim has done in the past), in swims experience anyways, ends up being more work than just sucking it up and moving on. just be sure of the people youre dealing with and do your research.


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I knew a punk who sold PCP to people, and ripped them off every chance he got. One night he watched a 14 year old boy bite off his own thumb while high on his product. He thought this was hilarious and walked down the road to pick up another bag of product. The seller told him it was in a ground-level power-relay box that was turned off. So he reached into the box. 10,000 volts went into his right arm and down his right leg. He was on fire. He ended up losing his right arm to the shoulder and his right leg to above his knee.


He approached me later on and asked me to make him some PCP, knowing I was a skilled chemist. I refused as gently as I could. He later committed suicide. Take this true story for what you will.
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