Drug info - Propylhexedrine Basics

[IHrtHalucingens]

SWIM hasnt tried extracting it. He found no reason to do an extraction, he assumes as long as you dont eat cotton rods every day it wont be much of a problem. If your stomach acid doesnt take care of it, your body will pass it naturally. The only difference SWIM would expect, is the absence of the odd tasting burps, and a smalelr volume of mass being consumed. but the burps werent unpleasant enough to warrant an extraction for SWIM.

[jesusfreak666er]

if swim ate a vicks inhaler (levemefamphetamine sp) would he get a similar effect, swim knows its used in meth synth but by itself is it active or recreational?

[Nahbus]

Originally Posted by jesusfreak666er

if swim ate a vicks inhaler (levemefamphetamine sp) would he get a similar effect, swim knows its used in meth synth but by itself is it active or recreational?

It's not used in meth synth (the active chemical has changed. dreamers don't want levo), and it won't have that much recreational value, so SWIM hears.

[jesusfreak666er]

swim wants to point out that the oj u took the prop might have decreased the effects swim thinks, swim remembers hearing that if one is taking an amphetamine (prop isnt) that acidic juices are not a good idea, (think about the use of taking baking soda before meth or adderall same idea, basic and effects the digestion) SWim isnt sure just an idea

[gargravarr]

Originally Posted by jesusfreak666er

swim wants to point out that the oj u took the prop might have decreased the effects swim thinks, swim remembers hearing that if one is taking an amphetamine (prop isnt) that acidic juices are not a good idea, (think about the use of taking baking soda before meth or adderall same idea, basic and effects the digestion) SWim isnt sure just an idea

ahh swim hadn't considered this. Usually if it's a drug that has to be ingested, he's going to do so with OJ to speed it up. Swim had no idea acidic juices played any possible role in decreasing the potency of amphetamines! But does anybody have anything to back that claim up? Either way swim will most definitely try it with water next time to compare effects.

[jesusfreak666er]

swim isnt sure about propyl but definately with amphetamines it plays a role, swim usually parachutes a lil baking soda or tums before taking amps orally, helps it come on faster and last longer in swim's opinion but idk

[Nahbus]

I don't see why this wouldn't be the same with propylhexedrine. Look at how similar the molecules are. But then again, SWIM is no science wizz.
But hey, how difficult do you think it would be to convert this to amphetamine, or something similar? by the LOOK of the molecule it doesn't seem that bad, but like I said, SWIM is no science wizz. He understands a good portion, but wouldn't be able to wing something like this. Anyone wanna inform SWIM?

[jesusfreak666er]

swim hasnt seen any methods that use propylhexedrine as a precursor to any sort of amphetamine molecule, swim is not science wiz either but he believes there are just easily teks and therefore one isnt seen needed, swim saw one method for crank on totse but it was just a propylhexedrine extraction.

[Nahbus]

yeah, but then again propylhexedrine isn't all that popular, not many people know about it. It probably would be a lot more complicated than the well known synths, but figured it'd be neat to have a new one, using propylhexedrine (ungakked, easy to extract). Although, I'm sure it would be banned eventually. Surprised it isn't already! Seeing how much of a nice high it is. Maybe there just aren't any other chemicals that compete? Who knows. (SWIM does find it odd that this chemical is illegal EXCEPT in the use of that ONE name brand inhaler.)

Edit: SWIM looked more into propylhexedrine and using it to synthesize something even better. SWIM hears of dehydrogenating that cyclohexane to benzene. SWIM doesn't think it will be real amphetamine, but a phenethylamine nonetheless. Does anyone know what this would do to the propylhexedrine? Maybe it would turn into actual amphetamine? If not, what would it be? SWIM definately needs help on this. Thanks.
(Not sure exactly how dehydrogenation works, but from the looks of things, the outcome seems like it is very damn similar to amphetamine in structure. Any chemists out there wanna help a Swimmer out?)
SWIM also hears that the phenyl ring of methamphetamine is replaced with a cyclohexyl ring in propylhexedrine (Is this what makes it NOT an amphetamine?). Is there any way to change the hexyl back to a phenyl ring? SWIM wants something new to make (all his lab shit got trashed, and doesn't feel like buying all the shit for mcat or meth again... don't have the money), and is very interested in propylhexedrine as some sort of amphetamine precursor. SWIM really thinks we should look into this, unless its not worth any effort at all, but SWIM has faith (and loves to try new synthesis' and substances. Very curious as to what SWIwe can make out of this.)!

[jesusfreak666er]

swim is gonna try eating 1 inhaler cotton today, swim woke up and took some magnesium (drinkin and smokin last night gotta get the mag back up) and plans on parachuting some baking soda before the cotton (how much should swim do baking soda wise?) anything else anyone can think of to get the most out of this amphetamine like drug?

swim is on prozac, 10mg a day, think that will effect the results? more importantly is it dangerious lol... swim hopes not?

swim is kinda scared since hes on prozac, he has done plenty of amphetamines (dextro) on prozac but since this is not an amphetamine swim is still kinda weary, can anyone give any advice?

swim has decieced to postpone his experiment till he finds conclusive evidence that its safe with prozac... seritonin syndrome sux, swim was dumb enough to take dxm on prozac before.......2 day hang over, not tryin to get that... swim just bumped 40mg of adderall as a subsitute.

[Nahbus]

Good idea to wait. If it were SWIM, and SWIM was fine on adderall and other amphetamines, he would ASSUME it would be ok to try propylhexedrine. Key word: assume. Still wait for someone else with real information, but if not, maybe try taking half or something? Pretty sure it effects you the same way amphetamines do, though. (again, I'm just throwing this out, I have no facts to back any of this up.)
Good luck!

[jesusfreak666er]

swim just talked to a doctor friend who cleared him to try propylhexadrine. swim has been off ssri for about a week or so, but swims doctor friend said it shouldnt make a difference. Swim will report back.

[IHrtHalucingens]

Glad to hear that it worked out for you eventually. I wonder if the 500mg will make for a longer experience or a more intense one or both. Im a little confused about your report, did you come down at 8:50? because it says so but then after it says its 8 and euphoria is going strong. Did you mean 9 or was the edit placed before the other portion on accident?

Either way SWIM will be trying 500mg tommarow and will compare the results with his 250mg dose.

Can anyone think of a way to potentiate the euphoric effects of propyl. ?

Would loading up on fruit and other glucose rich foods before hand help out, since i noticed Nahbus mentioned that it dumps all your glucose into your blood stream? or am i way off by what he meant? thanks

[IHrtHalucingens]

So i guess the 500mg didnt lengthen the duration of the effects, as a 250mg dose lasted ~5 hours as well. SWIM will try and report back tonight or tommorow.

[IHrtHalucingens]

So SWIM tried 500mg last night and the effects were more intense slightly but it ended up lasting ~12 hours. SWIM doesnt know if this is because he took the 500mg though because a friend of SWIMs took 250mg also and they each had a few shots as well, like 6-7, and SWIMs friend also had effects lasting well over 5 hours.

It seems that propylhexadrine has some sort of odd reaction to alcohol causing it to last twice as long. This doesnt make too much sense to SWIM, anyone have any ideas?

[jesusfreak666er]

swim stayed up the entire night till the next day when he took 500mg but the euphoric feelin only lasted several hours, the energy or for that matter lack of fatigue feeling lasted longer

[IHrtHalucingens]

Yes SWIM stayed up all night as well, then slept during the next day lol. But he felt the euphoria well past the usual 5 hours, and so did his buddy who took only 250mg.

Does anyone have any information on this substance and drug testing? SWIM went to court 2 days ago, and although it went well as he is not in jail, he did get 18 months supervised probation. So basically SWIM is done smoking weed for a year an a half, and depending on the frequency of the testing all other drugs as well. But He was wondering if this could be something he could still enjoy every once in a while without fear of violating probation and doing 5 years lol. Does it have any possibility of showing up as an amphetamine in any way? Any insight would be great.

[jesusfreak666er]

hmmm sry to hear bout probation, but its better than jail. Either way swim would think if anything it would come up as an amphetamine, but one must remember that amphetamines are metabolized reasonably quickly, as they are not stored in fat cells like thc, swim says why risk it? but hey if swiy knows your testing schedule swiy should be ok, depending on how serious swiys proby is it is possible to find out the dates, but unlikely good luck

[IHrtHalucingens]

Yeah thats basically where SWIM is at with his thinking, he was just hoping that he could still have some enjoyment in life for the next 18 months. lol SWIM really feels like his life as he knows it is over. I guess he'll become an alcoholic. =(

[INodHardOhYeah]

Many over-the-counter cold medications are structurally very similar to amphetamines and may cause interference in the initial screening test, but not in the confirmation test by GC /MS which is the only approved confirmatory technique in certified laboratories. It is important that all screening tests be confirmed and not all labs do confirmations. The compounds that were talking about are pseudoephedrine (Sudafed, Actifed, Contac Drixoral and many others), phenylpropanolamine( Robitussin, Triaminic and others) phenylepherine (Dristan, Neo Synephrine and others) propylhexedrine (Dristan, Benzedrex) and ephedrine (Primatene, Bronkaid). These compounds are present in many prescription and over the counter medications, It is important to do GC/MS to eliminate the chance of a false positives due to these structurally similar compounds.

The test they give you is often first checked by a simple dip stick color changing test strip, but if they do come up with a positive it must be sent to a lab for it to be confirmed. Here they will do a GC/MS test and it will turn up negative for amphetamines.

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[IHrtHalucingens]

Excellent. Thanks thats good info. to have. I guess SWIM may be able to have a little fun every now and then after all.

[Akewstick]

SWIM is well experienced at buying OTC drugs in the UK, but he has never been to the united states, if someone is buying benzedrex inhalers legally in the USA, how would he go about it?

Is it just a case of walk up to the counter and ask for Benzedrex? and if asked why, explain to them that i have a cold, and that's it?

Is there likely to be any trouble with the people there?

Quick responses would be appreciated, he leaves for his holiday to america in 24 hours. thank you.

I would like it noted that i am not planning to do anything illegal with any OTC drugs, and am not planning to bring any OTC drugs back from the united states.

The other thing SWIM would like to know is: is it suspicious to buy more than one inhaler at a time? SWIM dosen't know how the inhalers work in terms of treating colds and whatnot, would there be any legitimate need to buy 2 or 3 at a time?

will the people in the shop start asking questions if i buy 2?

how many should SWIM buy at one time from one store as a maximum

[IHrtHalucingens]

Its on the shelves around SWIM. YOu dont have to talk to anyone. and it raises no suspicion when buying them. If you feel it necessarry then say your brother or someone has hay fever and this is the only thing that works for them.

[Nahbus]

I'm willing to bet 99% of the people who work in the stores have no idea that the inhalers can be used recreationally. Most don't even know that pseudoephedrine or DXM can be used in "other" ways, either.

[Nahbus]

SWIM had an experience with Diazepam (after puking and vomting, if you've read through the thread). Seems like that combination is what makes it very fun for SWIus maybe?
Seems as though SWIY have to get over a bumpy road first to experience good effects. At least for SWIM and what he has seen/heard.
SWIM will most likely try this with an extract and seeing if it's better (no menthol, lavender oil or cotton X_X )