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Old 16-02-2011, 23:00
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failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

Okay.. so SWIM failed a urine essay, they send it to the lab and everything. 45minutes to an hour before the urine test SWIM took my Opana 5mg, and Ive never taken it before. Now, the next week SWIM came in and my doctor was furious because SWIM failed that drug test for oxycodone! SWIM was SHOCKED, no! SWIM didnt do ANY oxycodone, just took that Opana, and SWIM tried to explain to her that Oxycodone metabolizes to Oxymorphone and if the 12 panel test is searching for the metabolite it can also come up dirty for Oxycodone, What do you guys think??
SWIM even told her to Google it and she did, but she printed out a page that said "a person Shouldn't test positive for oxycodone if taking oxymorphone, but it works the other way around"

the thing that makes it worse.. she put me on Methadone cus she said shes cant prescribe me any narcotics until we figure this out, and she shouldn't even be prescribing that.. The worst part, is she mentioned how a couple months back while on the suboxone, SWIM failed a drug test for Heroin :'( god..

SWIM know what the lot of you are thinking with this, BUT PLEASE NO NEGATIVE? Just positive, support and help me get my head up.. SWIM KNOWS SWIs STUPID and FUCKED UP!

What would YOU guys do??? how could SWIM possibly get back on other narcotics, SWIM was thinking he doesnt want to go to another doctor, SWIM thought maybe to come clean and admit to using the H to her??
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Old 17-02-2011, 00:29
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

If you are going there for genuine pain therapy, you need to be honest and stick to the plan. But SWIy was using H??? Then I suspect SWIy is more interested in mantaining a habit. If that is the case, then lie, lie, lie... And when she catches on, change DRs.
Just my cat's opinion for what it's worth.

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Old 17-02-2011, 02:09
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

Be honest that you took a pain pill that wasn't yours. Don't mention heroin, that'd make it worse. Be honest and just say someone gave it to you and you just wanted to try it. Say you'll be willing to do as many drug tests as they want to prove you aren't using anything besides your own medicine, say you'll do weekly prescriptions, say you're willing to go down to a lower dose, whatever you can do. Be honest and contrite. And never use drugs you aren't prescribed.

That's all you can do.

Oh, and this will go on your medical records. So if you transfer them to another doctor, they will know you failed a drug test and more than likely won't accept you. You'd have to start from square one and say you've never been treated before if you want to try another doctor.

So admit your mistake and try to work it out. That's all you can do.

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Old 17-02-2011, 03:25
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

My cat never has records transfered when getting a new DR. Most don't even ask. Those that do get denied, as my cat says he didn't like the diagnosis and treatment the last DR was giving, and doesn't want his last DRs opinion to sway his diagnosis. If they still insist, there are a lot of DRs to choose from, at least in my cat's area.
The question remains though, is this recreational or do you truly need pain management?
Once you answer THAT question, then proceed accordingly.
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Old 17-02-2011, 03:38
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

say swiny had some left over from much earlier, when he was seeing another dr., and he Rx'ed swiny oxycodone, and swiny mistakenly took a pill from the wrong bottle
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Old 17-02-2011, 03:55
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

SWIy can only hope that it's out of the system before the next drop
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Old 17-02-2011, 06:45
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

For the Record, SWIM has Crohns Disease, inflammatory bowel disease so SWIM does need pain management. swim is a Certified Nursing Assistant so his work requires standing All day and lots of tasks, which is why swim asked to switch back to pain pills from the suboxone.

thank you all for the advice, my cat listened to them all!
that is the ONLY test that swim failed a test for H.. as far as the oxycodone, swim could of Sworn that the oxymorphone can come up on a 12panel lab test as Oxycodone which is what swim is trying to convince the doctor of..
swim was honest with the doctor, swim said that a couple days before the test he took a morphine pill from a friend becuase swim had such bad pain, and the doctor knows this, but the doctor thinks I took oxycodone becuase swim failed the test, and swim is telling the doctor it HAS to be the Opana ER, becuase swim took it 45minutes before the urine test, is swim accurate when saying that Opana ER CAN show up as oxycodone?? Ive been searching everywhere for a Concrete answer, and even told the doctor to call the lab to confirm this..

The doctor told swim "your lucky Im even giving you methadone with those two failed drug tests, cus Im suppose to cut you off from All narcotics, so your going to need to do drug tests Everytime to come in, and if you fail one your Done", so do you guys think there is a way swim can prove that Opana can show up as oxycodone??

Swim told her that swim has NEVER done H, and swim was thinking maybe telling her "swim was at a party and smoked some weed with friends cus swim was in pain, but swim started realizing he doesnt feel like he normally does when he smokes weed, so swim asked his friends a few days ago and they said the joint was probably laced" do you guys think swim should tell her this?? or would that make it worse??

swim told the doctor that ONLY pill he took was a Morphine pill from a friend, but that was BEFORE swim went in and took the test and came up dirty for H.. the doctor said there is No way that H can show up as morphine and the test Proves that swim did H.
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Old 17-02-2011, 08:01
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

Doctors are easy to manipulate to a certain point, but some also know they are being manipulated so you must do your research well. Which makes SWIM glad for SWIY.

The best places to have a doctor in SWIM's opinion are family practice centers where doctors do their residency. You'll be rotated doctors periodically every few years or less, but the new doctors are pretty 'green' aka (new and don't know what the fuck they are doing). They are HARDLY going to QUESTION the decision of a doctor who has already completed their residency.

They typically all accept Medicaid - SWIM knows this as he works for social services approving folks for Food Stamps & Medicaid etc.

Good luck friend.
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Old 17-02-2011, 09:33
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

swim has blue cross plus, and the doctor is thru a hospital, internal medicine at UCSD
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Old 18-02-2011, 14:56
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Re: failed Drug test from Pain Doctor HELP

Standard testing causes false positives all the time. Even in professional circles there have been some BIG problems. Slight tangent but a couple of years back race horses started testing + for aminorex; LOADS of them. Big scandal and so on & it was traced back to one brand of food. The food had something else in it that tested +!

I would read up what materials cause these problems but beware, heroin is actually tested by 6-MAM (monoacetyl morphine) presence & that is almost unique.

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