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Old 15-02-2011, 21:39
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Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

A friend's pet gerbil only uses coke infrequently, but when it does, it will embark on an hours long binge where it will finish an 8 ball or so
while masturbating and watching porn.

During the masturbation session- after about 30-40 minutes and a few lines, the friend's gerbil will start to experience intense, euphoric waves of pleasure throughout its body from the coke which make the masturbation feel amazing. The intense waves of pleasure assist the masturbation session by helping the gerbil's penis to get hard. Once the euphoric waves start, all the friend's gerbil has to do is take another small line or rub a rock or some powder on its gums to get more euphoric waves coursing through its body. But intense waves and all- try as it might, the gerbil has never been able to have an orgasm during this ritual and only stops when the coke is gone or when it has to pee. The gerbil desperately wants to be able to have an orgasm while experiencing these intense euphoric waves washing over it.

The gerbil is wondering if one would experience these same intense and pleasurable euphoric waves after taking a hit of crack. The gerbil described them as sensations that start at the bottom of the spine and creep up the back hit the shoulders and flood over the back of the head in one intense motion. The best feeling in the world the gerbil states.

The gerbil also wants to know if it is possible to take a hit of crack RIGHT before having an orgasm and finishing masturbation once the crack high hits. If so, does anyone know what that feels like?

And how long would the comedown be for a gerbil from one or two hits of crack?
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Old 15-02-2011, 22:03
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

Welcome to the Catch-22 of Cocaine.

I've met some coke and crack heads over the years and they all described similar problems. The coke doesn't seem to hinder girls as much as guys, but many men experience erectile dysfunction and an inability to orgasm.

Some women describe increased intensity during sex that makes parts feel like an orgasm, but they note a difference between that and a normal one.

Unfortunately it all comes down to body chemistry and practice. The more coke you do, the more intense the vascular constriction, so really you're hindered more the higher you get. Perhaps if your friend did a bit less coke he would have an easier time achieving orgasm. Also, perhaps sex instead of masturbation would be an adequate motivator to push your friend over the top.

As for the crack, it is possible to hit crack just before orgasm, but like with coke, the constricting effects will probably work immediately to hinder an erection. Furthermore, the intense nature of the crack high would likely be a pretty big distraction for a few seconds and you may find yourself stopping inadvertently. In the long run the powder coke will be safer for your friend. If he's really dead set on a coke orgasm he should try doing a bit less coke and maybe getting a hold of a lady (or man, if that's his thing).

Marijuana has been a well known aphrodisiac for some time. Perhaps if your friend laced a blunt with coke he would have an easier time spanking the monkey.

Naturally though, all of this information is second hand from drug users I met briefly a long time ago so who knows if any of it will work. The safest route is probably just not to do drugs in general.

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Old 15-02-2011, 23:40
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

The inability to have an orgasm on cocaine and other stimulants such as amphetamines and MDMA is very common. It certainly can be frustrating during masturbation while seeking the final euphoric rush, but is useful in having long sessions with a partner, primarily MDMA. The fact of the matter is that if this gerbil is having problems reaching orgasm on cocaine, it is very probable that the same problem will arise on crack.

However, there are a few ways to look at this predicament:

First, crack has a much shorter and much stronger high then cocaine. This could possibly mean that if crack were substituted for cocaine, the time window in which an orgasm cannot occur would be reduced, meaning that one could reach orgasm in a reasonable amount of time.

Second, from swims experience, crack has a very short but extreme rush of euphoria for the first 5 minutes of the experience, then it fades to a normal cocaine high and then fades to a restless stimulation and longing for more crack. This progression lasts a similar amount of time as a cocaine, and this could translate into a shorter window of euphoric rushes with the inability to reach orgasm staying the same as it does for coke.

Finally, the gerbil may find himself too stimulated to masturbate in the first place or find that the longing for more crack is too mind entrapping to even think about masturbating.

The final thing that swim must add is that he doesn't recommend making the step from cocaine to crack for any cocaine user. Crack will take away some of the magic and fun of regular insufflated cocaine. It can be difficult to transition back to cocaine after one knows of the extreme euphoria had on crack. Not only that, but crack is far more addictive and not worth potential lessening of normal coke. Stay happy with cocaine and if the gerbil doesn't have a taste for crack, he shouldn't acquire it at all costs.
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Old 16-02-2011, 01:23
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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The fact of the matter is that if this gerbil is having problems reaching orgasm on cocaine, it is very probable that the same problem will arise on crack.
One hit of crack will sabotage a gerbil's boner in seconds?

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Finally, the gerbil may find himself too stimulated to masturbate in the first place or find that the longing for more crack is too mind entrapping to even think about masturbating.
Too stimulated? Please explain.

Lastly- Does one achieve the same or similar euphoric, pleasurable waves experienced when insufflating cocaine when smoking crack?
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Old 16-02-2011, 02:17
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

Too stimulated to masturbate?? What the hell?
Cocaine isn't very stimulating, that's the first thing. Cocaine is very short acting and the enchanced pleasure of masturbation is quickly gone... Speed makes Swim very horny.. Couple of times he would watch porn and masturbate for 7-8 hours, all night long.
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Old 16-02-2011, 03:42
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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One hit of crack will sabotage a gerbil's boner in seconds?

Too stimulated? Please explain.

Lastly- Does one achieve the same or similar euphoric, pleasurable waves experienced when insufflating cocaine when smoking crack?
Alright, so for the first question, no, swim did not mean that. It will not effect an erection significantly if it is already present.

The post after yours that said cocaine is not very stimulating may be true of small quantities or powder of low quality. Cocaine is not what is being talked about though, it is the smoked free-base form of crack. In the case of cocaine, it is stimulating but to a manageable extent. With crack, and remember, swim was talking about his experiences, the stimulation is very intense. What is meant by "too stimulating" is that the drug delivers such a massive burst of energy that a user, especially a first timer, may not have the patience or the ability to sit down and masturbate. Unlike amphetamines, which give a user a very focused stimulation suited for single tasks, the stimulation from crack is very jumpy, as if tasks and activities are only doable for so long (like a short attention span with restless energy). The first time swim did crack was sitting down, the second it hit, he jumped up and started running around, literally couldn't pay him to sit still. However, drugs effect people in different ways so it may not be the same for your gerbil.

To answer the final question, swim will again use his experiences. For him, being on crack is like taking all the intensity of the full coke high, and condensing it into 5-10 minutes. Instead of multiple rushes of euphoria over a few hours, on crack, he gets an unbelievable, massive RUSH of euphoria during these 5-10 minutes, not multiple ones. Everything after that ranges from mild euphoria to the stimulation felt by a large amount of caffeine.
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Old 16-02-2011, 03:53
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

Bud says a Penis is a Clitoris on a Female. So of course, she's gonna get horny. Don't masterbate, you'll never cum. What a drag, all that work for not a spurt. LOL. Do some good meth Bud says, you'll cum, ater a long time.

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Old 16-02-2011, 04:24
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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Bud says a Penis is a Clitoris on a Female. So of course, she's gonna get horny. Don't masterbate, you'll never cum. What a drag, all that work for not a spurt. LOL. Do some good meth Bud says, you'll cum, ater a long time.

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That just made me laugh my ass off! Damn, the phrase has so many applications, you could write a fucking line of hallmark card with that shit.

Anyway, in the effort of harm reduction, swim cannot recommend an amphetamine and as already put in his two cents worth about why he doesn't recommend crack either. Though, since amphetamines have become a theme of this thread, he'll say a few things regarding to their use and masturbation.

The first thing swim would like to point out is that taking amphetamines solely for masturbation is not the best idea. Due to the duration of amphetamines lasting anywhere from 8-24+ hours (depending on what analogue), one would need a nice chunk of time in a day and would beat his meat raw. This is why short-lasting cocaine would better suit this sole purpose.

HOWEVER, if one is going to take an amphetamine anyway, masturbation/sex is great. One can maintain an erection for a long period of time, go really rough and last but certainly not least, CUM!
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Old 16-02-2011, 04:26
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

FinnishPharmer, I get your point now... Of course, masturbating on cocaine is not really possible, but Swim thought, that you're talking about after the main euphoria is gone.

Also, Swim wouldn't consider sudden, fast movements, rapid breathing and that little mind fuck as a stimulation.

For Swim, cocaine isn't really stimulative, it's intense but in different meaning, it's more of a "burst" or "rush". Speed has very focused stimulation, keeping you totally awake for hours, and that's what Swim means by stimulation.

Swim has never tried crack, but injected both, cocaine and speed so he gets the point. Swim wouldn't be able to masturbate right after shooting speed (because as you said, stimulation is too strong), but after like 15-20 minutes when the rush is stable.
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Old 16-02-2011, 04:51
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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FinnishPharmer, I get your point now... Of course, masturbating on cocaine is not really possible, but Swim thought, that you're talking about after the main euphoria is gone.

Also, Swim wouldn't consider sudden, fast movements, rapid breathing and that little mind fuck as a stimulation.

For Swim, cocaine isn't really stimulative, it's intense but in different meaning, it's more of a "burst" or "rush". Speed has very focused stimulation, keeping you totally awake for hours, and that's what Swim means by stimulation.

Swim has never tried crack, but injected both, cocaine and speed so he gets the point. Swim wouldn't be able to masturbate right after shooting speed (because as you said, stimulation is too strong), but after like 15-20 minutes when the rush is stable.
It's all good! We just define stimulation differently and I actually like how you describe it much better, "energized rush" is what cocaines all about.

And I was just trying to answer the OP based on how coke effects his gerbil. Swim personally couldn't masturbate on cocaine and really wouldn't want to. Which goes back to another thread swim was posting on about whether or not cocaine is an aphrodisiac, basically came down to different "strokes" for different folks .

Anyway, swim guesses he'll just sum up the OP from his point of view. Cocaine and crack effect the same regions of the brain just with different speed and intensity. So if this gerbil can't orgasm on coke, the same is probably true for crack. And, again, an orgasm isn't worth a step up to crack, trust swim.
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Old 16-02-2011, 18:57
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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So if this gerbil can't orgasm on coke, the same is probably true for crack. And, again, an orgasm isn't worth a step up to crack, trust swim.
Buddy's big red penis dog penis will come out and go in so many times on crack that it is definately worse "doin' the wild thang on crack". Crack is crap. Put your "John Henry" in check. Some people take off their clothes and run around the block. When Buddy was in County, some dude said he was in their for "Indecent Exposure". He's said: "I donno why I do it, but every time I hit that glass dick, I take off my clothes and run around the neighborhood". He was of a different persuasion than Bud, and he laughed his ass off. Poor guy, Buddy hope he doesn't take it to trial. People do weird stuff on Crack, stay away from that crap. Buddy has a friend that spent about $50,000 on it in a year. Buddy came on powdered coke with a woman on it too, but never on crack. Crack is not condusive to masterbation, and that's from Master Crack himself.

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The gerbil is wondering if one would experience these same intense and pleasurable euphoric waves after taking a hit of crack. The gerbil described them as sensations that start at the bottom of the spine and creep up the back hit the shoulders and flood over the back of the head in one intense motion. The best feeling in the world the gerbil states.
Sex with someone or alone on Crack is very different,
the male Raccoon can speak only for himself but it seems logical,
Crack work inside of the Para-Sympathikus,
decrease the Noradrenalin Re-Uptake (this creates the stimulation)
and on the Natrium Channels (anasthetic properties)

A Orgasm is reached imo in a prolonged Session,
and maybe divided in to two or more different and intense Stages.

Sex on Crack is very intense as well as very addictive,
it is like living in Sodom!
(don't know if this Place is well known nowadays)

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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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Lastly- Does one achieve the same or similar euphoric, pleasurable waves experienced when insufflating cocaine when smoking crack?
My best friend, Girlie, tells me that in her experience (and the experiences of just about every other person she's asked regarding this), it's almost like sniffed powder cocaine, smoked crack cocaine & injected powder cocaine are like 3 completely different drugs. And it's only with sniffing powder that she could even consider having someone touch her - the other two are just too fucking powerful & mind-blowing. They completely override any potential desire for sexual play; although that's not the case for everyone (more men seem to still be interested in sexual stimulation whilst engaged with crack cocaine, but she says she doesn't know anyone who cares about sex when injecting), it seems like no one actually has an orgasm when indulging in cocaine, even if they are one of the lucky (male) ones who can achieve an erection.



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Old 16-02-2011, 20:31
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

"Even the lucky ones (males) who can get an erection". Exactly, one wants sex, but can't get it up, or does for a minute and then "Pecker" says, "No, I don't want to be hard, screw you, or would it be me?"

Three different drugs is right. They effect Buddy the same way.

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Maybe some People see only the Crack Pipe or Hookah,
but some People smoke Crack on a Foil like the Raccoon and his Friends always did,
this is much slower but also more effective!

(Same style as smoking Heroin)
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Old 16-02-2011, 23:00
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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My best friend, Girlie, tells me that in her experience (and the experiences of just about every other person she's asked regarding this), it's almost like sniffed powder cocaine, smoked crack cocaine & injected powder cocaine are like 3 completely different drugs. And it's only with sniffing powder that she could even consider having someone touch her - the other two are just too fucking powerful & mind-blowing. They completely override any potential desire for sexual play; although that's not the case for everyone (more men seem to still be interested in sexual stimulation whilst engaged with crack cocaine, but she says she doesn't know anyone who cares about sex when injecting), it seems like no one actually has an orgasm when indulging in cocaine, even if they are one of the lucky (male) ones who can achieve an erection.



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Great post! When swim stated that crack was "too stimulating" to actually go about masturbating, in the above post, Girlie describes it as "too fucking powerful." Crack is just one of those drugs that doesn't mesh well with other activities. Smoking crack itself IS the activity. When certain drugs have such an overpowering rush that they are their own activity i.e. crack, heroin, etc., this not only brings about addictive potential, but a drug of this type likes to make itself your "main girl" while high on it. Meaning there isn't usually much room for other activities in general and if she don't wanna do it, you ain't gonna. That's how these types of drugs go.
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Old 16-02-2011, 23:37
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

You can go blind from that shit, ya know? Seriously you CAN get whats known as Peyronies Disease from marathon whack sessions. Ask me how I know, your peckker, when erect, gets the shape of a boomerang rathern the usual banana shape. It REALLY sucks and keeps me faithful to my ol lady because I would be ashamed to show it to anybody else. Word to to the wise, Google it.

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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

Well thanks for the discussion. I'm going to tell my friend's gerbil to stick to the slopes and avoid the pipe.

I'm also gonna tell him to try some other masturbation aids I read in another thread: mainly viagra, reducing coke intake amount and alcohol to see if he can whack successfully.

Will report back on success or failure.
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

Ocean Waves:

Bud just want's to say, he has been where you are, many times. He's had lots of girlfriends and one night stands. But when a person does Coke, especially if he shoots it, goes crazy. Buddy is not making fun of you, but the fact that he knows now, he's not alone, make him feel so much better.

Buddy has skeletons in his closet, just like everyone. But an intense cocaine high tells you to get physical, but your so paranoid ones john henry can't keep it up. Best to just have sex naturally. Marathon sessions like that can be demoralizing too after one comes down.

It is a very serious subject, but at the same time a funny one, for some with humor.

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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

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Ocean Waves:

Bud just want's to say, he has been where you are, many times. He's had lots of girlfriends and one night stands. But when a person does Coke, especially if he shoots it, goes crazy. Buddy is not making fun of you, but the fact that he knows now, he's not alone, make him feel so much better.

Buddy has skeletons in his closet, just like everyone. But an intense cocaine high tells you to get physical, but your so paranoid ones john henry can't keep it up. Best to just have sex naturally. Marathon sessions like that can be demoralizing too after one comes down.

It is a very serious subject, but at the same time a funny one, for some with humor.

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I'm glad that story was able to make you feel better.

However, the gerbil doesn't shoot coke, nor does the powder coke it indulges make him paranoid.

The gerbil has had lots of sex in his life, and lots of sex with some extremely attractive and desirable ladies.

He wants to save this new found ritual for himself, though.

Thanks again guys. Lots of extremely knowledgeable and intelligent folks here.
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

My friends pet gurangutan has achieved this, and he says it is the ABSOLUTE best feeling ever.

He says he only gets an ounce or more at a time, so running out is not a worry when loading up hits. And he buys 3 to 5 pyrex stems so breaking ends is also not a worry. The point is theis allows total concentration to be on the feeling and not on conserving.

The very first hit is loaded and held as long as possible. Then right after first hit the masturbation begins before vasoconstriction can begin. As the first bellringer tolls in, he says start pleasuring yourself. Use a lot of lube, it feels absolutely wonderful, just dont get any on the stem. Keep towel handy, it will needed it to wipe off lube before hit and to clean up afterwards. He will want another hit: go for it. Just keep jacking. Porn also helps, especially headphones while the bellringer kicks in.

Eventually, even if not hard, the feeling of orgasm will arise. When the feeling arises, hit again, or keep going as hard as possible to bring yourself to the brink, the key is to not lose concentration. When it there and cumming let it cum! then halfway thru, hit the stem again, and keep going mid orgasm.

PURE BLISS

Gurangutan can do this about twice per 8ball
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

When SWIM finds even a little bit of crack, he gets the urge to have sex or masturbate constantly, even when things are flaccid. He doesn't mind that because he can still ejaculate even when soft, but only when he is smoking crack. Nothing else does that for him. He can orgasm four of five time in an hour. He will find anyone, male or female, who is into smoking so that they can 69 or work on insertion while smoking. SWIM knows this is not a good thing to do, so he does it only one every few months or so, but it makes for a weekend that seems worth it, even after he comes down.

Problem is that every time he sees a lighter or a glass tube, he gets that strong pull and has to fight it off as hard as he can, because he knows that if he does not, he will be back at his dealer's place looking for rock and anyone who wants to play. So far, he has been doing pretty good at staying away, but it has been four months and he is getting that pull again. It is just about all he can think about right now.
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

My friends monkey used to have the urge to masturbate after a few lines. Amphetamines make him have this feeling more.

But if he IV's crack or coke he does feel the incentive to whack off and watch his porn. Whenever he does crack/cocaine nowadays he doesn't really have that craving anymore.
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

My friend, works hard and plays hard. He tends to smoke a 1/6 on he weekend in a type of ritual. He tells himself he only wants one pebble, after the hit on a martell bottle, his favourite method ( he calls it the machine) he immediately transforms into a super freak! Forgets his wife, jumps on the phone, arranges more smoke and goes and checks his friends with benefits. He cannot smoke crack without at at least one other woman, everybody stark naked, drinking liquor take the edge off. This starts around midnight. Every blast he takes, must be at the same time of getting a blow job, and that must be slow and hard with plenty of suck, whilst play with other bodily parts. With this combination, my friends penis remains erect the girls get free smoke and plenty of fun, his orgasm is the most drawn out and intense feeling. Three things he note to achieve this consistently, he must be in a safe place, secure from police, and familiar, to minimise paranoia. The girls spirit must be good. At that level it is spiritual, if the girl is not right or into him then it doesn't work. Never worked if the girl is a prosi, or a crack whore. Because the penis and spirit is not interested, in those cases my friend said the buzz gets too personal and he zones out. Not nice at all!
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Re: Cocaine/Crack and masturbation question

Ah, one of the great dillemas of cocaine. A drug that makes a guy totally horny while rendering his parts unusable. My friend SWIM can't tell you how many times he has faced this problem. SWIM has taken advantage of the increased confidence, lack of inhibition and supercharged communication skills that cocaine provides. He has used this many a time to pull a nice looking female back to his place and into his bed, only to have his Johnson fail him. SWIM has been in the bathroom before with a total hottie in his bed, tugging at his member literally praying for it to work, to no avail. SWIM finds that when mixed with alcohol it is even worse. For the longest time he would not even pursue pleasures of the flesh when he was snorting or smoking, for fear of another humiliating encounter.

And then it all changed.

SWIM tried the erectile dysfunction remedy that comes in the little blue pill, and it worked like a champ. Doesn't matter how high Swim is, 30 min before the deed if he pops 50mg of that he will be good to go. Busting a nut can still pose a challenge but it is not impossible. Check with your Dr. before attempting this of course. SWIM did, and while the doctor lectured SWIM on the dangers of cocaine use, he said the V alone should not increase those risks. Good luck!

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