Opinions - Are Branded Benzodiazepines or Generics Better?

[GreatWonder]

SWIM's verdict (and benzo naive mind) is still out on this one. I know these drugs coming from India are called all sorts of mickey mouse names (I've tried looking up other generic names on the site you mentioned Mickelmouse and lots come back with no results). The blister packs clearly state Alprazolam as the active ingredient and as SWIM has been dosing when in calm situations he has possibly been swayed by SWIM's mind dictating what SWIM should or shouldn't be experiencing.
SWIM has tried chewing a pill and once through the powdery taste there is indeed a very strong chemical taste, not too different to the Alprazolam tablets SWIM previously obtained (much smaller pills), but far from being a benzo muncher, SWIM is not sure of how different one benzo's active ingredient tastes to another.
SWIM will give these tablets one last shot and is due to be in a socially anxious situation later and therefore a better position to monitor results.

[Nagognog2]

Posting links to sites listing/linking to commercial sites is not allowed. Post edited.

[GreatWonder]

Nagognog2, I did not post a link/listing, can I assume another user responded with such and the reply removed?

SWIM stands corrected, and did not realise the link contained prohibited matter. Thankyou for bringing to SWIM's attention.

[Nagognog2]

You're welcome.

[GreatWonder]

Thanks Nagognog2. What would SWIY do in SWIM's situation ie SWIM has (possibly the biggest) stack ever of pills in blisters marked Alprazolam and as a benzo newbie isn't sure of the source. SWIM has been dipping in on the tabs and still isn't sure of what SWIM has.
Are there many cases of benzos being packed and shipped with different labels, these in SWIM's eyes look legit - need to trial a few more though - is SWIM being paranoid and should just enjoy what SWIM got delivered? Are there any notable markers? ie if SWIM got diazepam under Alps name, SWIM is concerned what dose they're in eg 0.5mg Alp / 10mg Diaz is the normal?

Maybe SWIM should just go to bed happy he didn't get totally ripped off.

[Nogastic24]

Which is better, or which would SWIY rather have:

1mg of AXAL GENERIC ALPRAZOLLAM (GENERIC XANAX) alprazolam

or...

1mg of NERVIN (GENERIC XANAX) alprazolam????

given that they are the same price.

SWIM wasn't sure which one SWIM should buy. You'r help/input is most appreciated. (I am aware they are basically the same thing, but maybe some people prefer one to another)

[Nogastic24]

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[wellhelm]

I like the second one, sounds cooler.

[DrMuffy]

Well SWIdr isn't familiar with either of these pharm names, so it could go either way. Most of the time here in the US, pretty much all the generic names have the same stength and quality. The US has standards which they have to follow, but some do make their pills better than others. SWIY shold just do some research on these brands on google and see what turns up before he chooses.

[Nogastic24]

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[Jatelka]

Nogtastic24: Patience is a virtue.

It is 26 hours since SWIY originally posted and you have bumped this thread twice. Please bear in mind that df members have a life outside this forum (Shock! Horror! At least some of them do ), and sometimes the answer SWIY seeks may not be instantly forthcoming. Call it delayed gratification, if you will. Not people's favourite sort, but sometimes sweeter!

As DrMuffy has already stated: In the US (and UK, and rest of developed world) Xanax is Xanax is Xanax. If it says 2mg on it, then 2mg it will have.

Different people may react slightly differently to different binders and colours, which is why you'll see endless arguments about "Upjohn Xanax is the best" (or whatever).

Bear in mind that the above may not be true for benzos ordered from OSP's. Although she has no personal experience SWIJ knows that people have received low-does benzos (and sometimes drugs labelled wrongly) from places based in (for example) India.

BTW: Thread title edited, and thread moved to benzodiazepines sub-forum

From the rules:

• Use descriptive Topic Subject. This will help others find what they want to read. Topics with bad Topic subjects may be deleted! - there's nothing more annoying than looking at all those stupid "A stupid question" subject lines. I mean, I'm damn lazy, but how hard is it to type "A stupid question about (insert something here)"? As a rule of thumb, most thread titles should include the full name of the drug discussed.

A rule many tend to forget will cause a mass of warnings soon...

[Sickpup]

OP,can SWIY be a lil more specific on if these are canadian regular scrips.or what country/area are these coming from.If there both from a crappy source it wont make a diff.To be safe SWIM would use reputable source,and go for upjohn,manufactured under license if SWIY are dealing with iop.They cost 20-25% more,but have much better reviews.

[lulz]

I tried a search before posting this, apparently it hasn't been discussed yet!

My clone is about to order Valium, not for recreational purposeses but because he genuinely has anxiety problems, and he lives in a country where claims of anxiety are treated with fucking antipsychotics. < My clone described symptoms that in most Western countries would have guaranteed a Xanax prescription, but the cow in question prescribed my clone the minimum dose of Zyprexa and told him to see a CBT specialist, despite the fact that my clone had attended an 8 week CBT session at a world-renowned anxiety treatment clinic, and it had provided exactly squat for my clone.

(Word to the wise: if you have a condition that requires a controlled substance, and you live in Ireland, don't even bother searching for a psychiatrist.)

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[fizzle]

Apaurine is good stuff. I believe it has a 10 on one side and a score on the other, 10mg blue ones do anyway.

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Thanks for the pill identification, they did not come in blister packs so he was unsure if the pills were the real deal

[lulz]

My crazy uncle Joe just received a shipment of the apaurine, and they are exactly how you describe them fizzle.

However after a few bioassays he is not quite satisfied with the effects. First bioassay - 30 mg in 10mg increments. Slight relaxation effects, not remarkable. Second bioassay - 40 mg, same increments. Again, very slight relaxation effects. Performing third bioassay tonight, will report later.

It may be that old Joe has a naturally high tolerance for benzos, he has not yet experienced euphoria from them (xanax and apaurine tried so far). He is awaiting the arrival of Roche brand diazepam, and will report back after testing.

[kareena]

SWIM suggests that SWIY possibly tries clonazepam for anxiety. SWIM also (very annoyingly) appears to have a naturally high tolerance to benzos but clonazepam has been more effective than diazepam for him and provides some relief.

[lulz]

Thanks for the advice kareena, my crazy uncle Joe will try out some kpins asap.

The valium seems to be having only mild anxiety reducing properties. Strangely, the apaurines seem to be stronger than the brand name Roche valium, certainly in terms of muscle relaxation and sedation, and even in terms of the mild anxiety reduction.

By comparison he has to eat the Roche valiums like candy for them to work. And yet they really do seem to be the same thing. They came in a blister pack, and Joe gave 20mg to a friend who is quite well experienced with drugs (though not benzos), and his friend got completely fooked.

Perhaps valium is not the friend Joe is looking for. He'll definitely give kpins a try next.

But for what it's worth, apaurines are good stuff.

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Few months late but I am glad you agree that the Aupaurines are good stuff. Thanks for the rep, too.

[micuhr]

I've heard that the generic version (which I'm taking) often does not work nearly as well. Can anyone confirm this?

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

clonazepam (klonopin) 2mg chewable tabs

swim has had the generic 2mg chewable ones. they were the best and worst(because of how powerfull) swim ever did. within 7 minutes swim would be totally fucked.

[Jatelka]

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum.

Thank you

[cyndi]

I have been prescribed Klonopin (Clonazepam for years and I can't tell the difference between the generic or the brand. I have to take it for anxiety and to control seizures from another condition so I certainly don't take it to get a feeling. I really don't feel anything out of the norm but can tell you it works well with anxiety issues if you have them. Upping the dosage is not a good idea because people have oded because they could not "feel" it. If one wants a "feeling" xanax would probably be a better choice from what I have heard.

[Politicalchalk]

The law in the US states that, in order for a generic to be manufactured and be considered bioequivalent, potency must range between 90% and 110% of the original product.

Swim's dog SWEARS that the hydrocodone tabs with the speckles in them are wayyy better though. Same for generic versions of oxycontin, he INSISTS on the brand.

[cyndi]

Swim was prescribed Valium once and she was so out of it she almost lost her job for being "drunk" when she really didn't drink. She only took 10 mg at night too and it would linger. She also could not wake up very well which was a huge issue. Yeah she heard the apaurines are really strong too but never tried them. In benzos she prefers klonopins too, they take the edge off anxiety attacks while not knocking you on your a$$. She could also function pretty well on them. As far as brand vs. generic, she can't tell much difference. However, there are some banana flavored ones out there that are tasty and swim really likes those. Pretty sure they aren't brand.

[schiz0phren1c]

This swim of mine gets Xiemed Alprazolam purple 1mgs from Thighland(misspelling intentional guys ) and they're the biz,Swim says they seem just the same as normal Xans,Swim has just told me he is also looking at a blister pack of Pakistani Roche 10mg Valium and will try them this evening and give a verdict on them.

schiz0phren1c added 156 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

Swim can confirm the 10mg Diazepam roche from Pakistan are grrrrrrrrrrrrrand,he tells me he's felling no anxiety,quite floaty and nice.

[laws0n]

SWIM's friend is really into benzos and all the different types and strengths and generics vs non generics. He says that some of them are really really good recreationally, some are "allright" and some really suck. He believes that the brand name's are WAY better than the generics of the same strength and will pay 1.5- 2 times as much for them and will go out of his way for them. He also believes that some generics are good too it just depends on which ones. Some of his favorite ones are

Xanax 2mg White Bars
Xanax 2mg Yellow Bars
Any Valium with the V cut out inside
Any Klonapin with the K cut out
Klonapin 2mg white cilcle (not watson)
He goes crazy over Seconal or Bitalbutal or any barb he can get.

SWIM gets 1mg generic Lorazepam and he said that those are garbage and compared to anything above at the same dose it dosent even come close.

He also only likes the Xanax brand name that are bars, he would rather pay more for a bar than for like 4 .5mg pills.

As far as SWIM's thouight on this is that some benzoa are slightly better at the same dose but its hardly noticable. SWIM hasnt tried Xanny bars yet so that might be worth it to try once.

For SWIM's friend is it really true or is it just made up in SWIM's friend's head and he just enjoys the treasure hunt of finding rare benzos?