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Topical solution 100mg/ml - possible to get high?

I have an 8ml bottle of topical liquid ketamine that reads 100mg/ml. I know that skin absorbs very little. Would it be possible to get a light high equivalent of injecting 100mg or so? How much to apply or maybe taken orally?

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I have an 8ml bottle of topical liquid ketamine that reads 100mg/ml. I know that skin absorbs very little. Would it be possible to get a light high equivalent of injecting 100mg or so? How much to apply or maybe taken orally?
Also - if apply on skin - where to apply for most optimal absorption?

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Re: Topical solution 100mg/ml - possible to get high?

Remember those rules you had to watch for three minutes when signing up for an account, go read them before you get banned. The reasons for this will be clear enough when you read them.

No, ketamine will not absorb through the skin and get a person high. DO NOT LET ANYONE EAT IT! There is a good chance it will not be pleasant to eat. As far as I can tell this stuff is pretty useless. There is a good chance it also contains lidocaine in large enough amounts that it could get dangerous before enough ketamine is absorbed, and if your friend had to ask this question, there isn't much chance they have the chemistry to extract it.
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Re: Topical solution 100mg/ml - possible to get high?

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As part of a cream, gel, or liquid for topical application for nerve pain—the most common mixture is 10% ketoprofen, 5% Lidocaine, and 10% ketamine. Other ingredients found useful by pain specialists and their patients as well as the compounding pharmacists who make the topical mixtures include amitryptiline, cyclobenzaprine, clonidine, tramadol, and mepivicaine and other longer-acting local anaesthetics.
It is not just pure ketamine. You'd have to ingest a lot of other chemicals to get the ketamine. It you are going to use it, I suggest you use it topically as per directions on the bottle
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Re: Topical solution 100mg/ml - possible to get high?

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As part of a cream, gel, or liquid for topical application for nerve pain—the most common mixture is 10% ketoprofen, 5% Lidocaine, and 10% ketamine. Other ingredients found useful by pain specialists and their patients as well as the compounding pharmacists who make the topical mixtures include amitryptiline, cyclobenzaprine, clonidine, tramadol, and mepivicaine and other longer-acting local anaesthetics.


no but it does contain some interesting compounds that us more edumacated folkes can possibly extract.

ketamine and tramadol in one convienient topical cream.
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Re: Topical solution 100mg/ml - possible to get high?

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As part of a cream, gel, or liquid for topical application for nerve pain—the most common mixture is 10% ketoprofen, 5% Lidocaine, and 10% ketamine. Other ingredients found useful by pain specialists and their patients as well as the compounding pharmacists who make the topical mixtures include amitryptiline, cyclobenzaprine, clonidine, tramadol, and mepivicaine and other longer-acting local anaesthetics.
no but it does contain some interesting compounds that us more edumacated folkes can possibly extract.

ketamine and tramadol in one convienient topical cream.
Hee hee! While I can see the potential in such a product, I did want to call attention to the fact that the ketamine creams that have the "extra" ingredients are made up specially by a compounding pharmacist (a type of pharmacist at a specific style of pharmacy that makes up tablets/capsules/other medications on premises, instead of just purchasing pre-made medications in bulk from wholesalers); compounding pharmacies aren't that easy to come by these days (at least in the USA, I don't know how common they are in relation to "typical" pharmacies in other areas) and the medication would need to be written up by a doctor. These interesting combination creams aren't just available "off the shelf"!

What's also interesting to me is that one can get tablets/capsules of JUST hydrocodone (the active ingredient in Vicodin/Norcos/Lortab), no APAP, in the USA - but one has to have a prescription for it AND it has to be taken to a compounding pharmacy, since no company manufactures these. IIRC, the hydrocodone-only medications are then considered Schedule II, instead of Schedule III. (hopefully this will all soon be moot point anyway, since there's strong recommendation to remove the APAP and/or aspirin from opioid-based pain medications in the US anyway)

Compounding pharmacies are very interesting, I only learned about them fairly recently. I think it's awesome that your doctor CAN prescribe a combination of medications in one tablet/capsule/whatever and that it can be filled for you! Although I question how well topical use of, say, cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril), amitryptaline or tramdol works on pain vs the more traditional methods of using these medications!

~Kailey
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Re: Topical solution 100mg/ml - possible to get high?

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What's also interesting to me is that one can get tablets/capsules of JUST hydrocodone (the active ingredient in Vicodin/Norcos/Lortab), no APAP, in the USA - but one has to have a prescription for it AND it has to be taken to a compounding pharmacy, since no company manufactures these. IIRC, the hydrocodone-only medications are then considered Schedule II, instead of Schedule III. (hopefully this will all soon be moot point anyway, since there's strong recommendation to remove the APAP and/or aspirin from opioid-based pain medications in the US anyway)

~Kailey
Sorry to go off topic, but personally, I hope that does not happen. If they took the acetaminophen out of vicodin, et. al, it would be MUCH harder for people to get prescriptions for pain relief that they need. The abuse potential for hydro/aceta is high now already but it would go through the roof if they took the tylenol out of it. That would mean doctors would prescribe much less hydrocodone and give people way weaker stuff like tramadol. I really hope they keep the formulations with acetaminophen. If one needs to take large doses, they can simpley do a CWE.

Sorry for OT.

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