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Old 21-11-2010, 02:37
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Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

swuns have 2 and a half 60 mg MS contin pills, they are orange and oval. swim took a whole one today and took off as much coating as possible, bashed it upin to a bust or lil chunks and swallowed with water. swim felt a good buzz but swim ended up taking another 30 mg, and 30 mg again cuz it wasnt really intense enough. Whats swims best bet for these 2 and a half pills? should swim just take them all at once crushed up? swim does have a tollerance. Time release is a pain in the ass.

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edit: swim knows morphine has a low b/o oraly but swim doest inject or snort. swim doesn't know if he is completely destroying the time release mechanism. swim just bashes it as much as possible. is it also doesnt work under the tounge, is this correct? thank you all.

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Old 21-11-2010, 02:58
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

Edit: just realized MS contin is morphine not oxycodone, pardon the newbie mistake.
there is no such thing as a "crush proof" ms contin pill afaik, however what I was origionally referring to is oxycontin.

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Old 21-11-2010, 03:41
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

Hmm, that is quite a lot of morphine. But then, it does have really fucking low oral bioavailability. Too bad SWIY is not into snorting, because that would be vastly more efficient.

Might SWIY try plugging? That is, depositing a de-coated pill up one's bum? Or, better yet, dissolving it as well as possible in warm water and squirting it up the bum with a baby oral syringe or summat. That would be much more efficient. Eating morphine really is a waste, think about the addicts!

To the poster of post #2, did you even read the original post?

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Old 21-11-2010, 04:36
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

well, swms not totally against snorting, however he just thinks the orange plastic shit and the waxes in the pill would go bad up the nose.. and would swim feel anything if he snorted only 20-30 mg of morphine? maybe next time swim eats 90 mg then snorts 60 mg? swim does have a higher tollerance unfortunitly. swims hate the low b/a of morphine
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Old 21-11-2010, 04:49
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

Skin it first. Throw that shit out. No sense in worthless shit going in. Then don't do it anymore
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Old 21-11-2010, 04:53
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

haha yeah, maybe swim should start sniffing instead lol. will try 30 mg up the nose later this week and work up from there.
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

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Hmm, that is quite a lot of morphine. But then, it does have really fucking low oral bioavailability. Too bad SWIY is not into snorting, because that would be vastly more efficient.

Might SWIY try plugging? That is, depositing a de-coated pill up one's bum? Or, better yet, dissolving it as well as possible in warm water and squirting it up the bum with a baby oral syringe or summat. That would be much more efficient. Eating morphine really is a waste, think about the addicts!

To the poster of post #2, did you even read the original post?
SWIY's information here regarding nasal bioavailability of Morphine is INCORRECT. Oral administration is generally regarded as having a 25-30% bioavaiability, whilst intranasal administration is quoted at 15-20%. Rectal administration can take the bioavailability up to 60%, so plugging is the way to go unless one is prepared to IV. It is interesting to note however that the addition of Chitosan can increase nasal bioavailability to as high as 60%.

So saying that snorting Morphine is "vastly more efficient" is about as wrong a statement as you can get. If anything it can be as bad as half that of Oral bioavailability.

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Old 19-12-2010, 20:53
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

SWIM usually does 1/3 to 1/2 a 100mg MS Contin via insufflation. SWIM usually does around 50 - 75mg of hydrocodone orally or 30 - 60mg oxycodone insufflated to compare that to 30 - 50mg of morphine. SWIM will say though that compared to the synthetic opioids like oxy- and hydrocodone it produced a larger histamine release causing a pretty bad itch to the point of needing benadryl and ended up needed lotion because his skin was so dry from itching in some places. So he'd recommend taking 25mg of diphenahydramine with it.

EDIT: Though he seems to redose more frequently with morphine than hydrocodone or oxycodone.

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Old 19-12-2010, 22:34
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

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SWIM usually does 1/3 to 1/2 a 100mg MS Contin via insufflation. SWIM usually does around 50 - 75mg of hydrocodone orally or 30 - 60mg oxycodone insufflated to compare that to 30 - 50mg of morphine. SWIM will say though that compared to the synthetic opioids like oxy- and hydrocodone it produced a larger histamine release causing a pretty bad itch to the point of needing benadryl and ended up needed lotion because his skin was so dry from itching in some places. So he'd recommend taking 25mg of diphenahydramine with it.

EDIT: Though he seems to redose more frequently with morphine than hydrocodone or oxycodone.
Did your friend read my previous post in this thread? Insufflation of Morphine Sulphate, whether it be IR or ER has about the lowest bioavailability of all routes of administration. Your friend is wasting his stash.
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

No SWIM did but he wanted the OP to know dose comparisons of insufflated morphine vs some other common prescription opiates.
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

With tolerance but not physical addiction, my friend found 120 mg MSContin chewed up to be a good buzz. He'd nod at 180 mg and 240 mg would have him really loaded.

At first, he'd snort them but everyone told him it was better just to chew up and swallow. He didn't believe so but he tried it and they are MUCH more effective orally and last longer. Snorting them is a waste.
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:27
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Re: Have 150 mg ms contin, whats swims best bet?

The coyote never thought he would bark this but he would strongly consider plugging if he ever gets his paws on some more morphine.

Coyote's been sniffing around here for a comparison chart for opiate bioavailability as it is so confusing between the different ROAs vs. opiate type. Could someone clue him in by PM if such a table/chart is on DF? He's really tried but admits he is no bloodhound.

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