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Old 02-01-2006, 20:05
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Snorting Focalin

Has anyone every snorted Focalin? Swim's friend was telling me about his ADHD perscription that he just got and that he had been snorting for 2 or 3 hours and went through about 10 pills. Him and a friend were doing it together and told swim that it is better than a cocaine high and that it lasts much much longer. Don't remember, but I think he told me they were high for about 50 mins after every snort on doing 1-2 pills.

I don't know anything about this and was maying thinking about trying it. A friend has told me not to because he says thats the kind of shit that makes you go nuts. Putting legions and holes in your brain, but so does coke?

Anyone know much about this Focalin?
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Old 02-01-2006, 23:06
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Focalin is a ADD/ADHD medicine which contains dexmethylphenidate. This chemical is similar to Methylphenidate (the stuff in ritalin) but it's twice as potent. I'm sure it could give a nice buzz, but I seriously doubt the dexmethylphenidate buzz is even close to the cocaine high as far as euphoria, ect.

Methylphenidate, and related compounds, are harmful is abused extensively. Years of heavy abuse could lead to psychosis and other mental problems, but using it once will not. Remember, this stuff is prescribed for everyday use in the 2.5-20 milligram range. Your concerned friend probably knows very little, if anything about the medication, but he/she knows that drugs can cause problems.

Also, cocaine has been shown to do many bad things if used for an extensive period of time, but is has not been shown to put legions in your brain. Please do not spread misinformation. There is actually a lack of information on the effects of cocaine use on the brain.
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Re: Snorting Focalin

SWIM has experience with this. It's nice because it was so damn easy for him. SWIM could open up the pill and pour out the little balls of dexmethylphenidate within, then easily grind them with a mortar or similar object into a fine powder.

SWIM has insufflated 60mg/dexmethylphenidate (a full 3 of the absolute largest pills available) on several occassions. SWIM notes how amazingly fast his resistance will build for this stuff. At first, he felt like he was flying, but then it became just a slight buzz.

Also, doing it may affect you in strange ways. If you change focus, and the lighting changes as you do, you may see unnatural flashes of light, but they always disappear within a few seconds.

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Re: Snorting Focalin

SWIM has snorted 60-90mg of focalin XR in a span of less than an hour and felt a "speed-ish" high for a little bit. SWIM does coke often so his stimulant tolerance is high, but SWIM thinks (after trying both IR and XR adderal and ritalin) that focalin gives you the best high
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Re: Snorting Focalin

swim has snorted high doeses of focalin before with the little beads and the high is fairly strong but along with that swiys tolerance also goes up very fast.
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Re: Snorting Focalin

When back in his "home-town" (2-3 times per year for less thess than a week at at a time,) SWIM inevevitably hooks up with a soursce sho is big into IV Ritalin..

Yes, That's what SWIM mean to type.

So SWIM intetiably ends up joining his "friend" in this rediculous endeaver and will sum up his cumunlative epxerience(s) as follows:

- I.V. Ritalin is not I.V. Coke, so SWIM is ALAWAYS some degree of disappointed.

- There's little if any "rush" that occurs that can be compared with IV Coke.

- One can and ofent does stay up for DAYS doing this stupid kinda shit, and beliive my friend friend SWIM when he ways that as no point is it worth it.

- Pint-pong is more fun on I.V. ADD meds. SWIM knows it borders on irresponsible to mentio this, but he dies because he like ping-pong and he he likes it even more when shooting ADD meds.

SWIM's a little spun ATM so hopeufully there's something useful in there. The bottom line (for SWIM) is it's not woth I.V'ing ADD Meds and therefore (in keeping in line with thi thread) it's almost certainly not worth snorting them.

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- There's differend forms of Ritalin, each (if not some) require specific preparatation methodds for I.V. Use
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Re: Snorting Focalin

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When back in his "home-town" (2-3 times per year for less thess than a week at at a time,) SWIM inevevitably hooks up with a soursce sho is big into IV Ritalin..

Yes, That's what SWIM mean to type.

So SWIM intetiably ends up joining his "friend" in this rediculous endeaver and will sum up his cumunlative epxerience(s) as follows:

- I.V. Ritalin is not I.V. Coke, so SWIM is ALAWAYS some degree of disappointed.

- There's little if any "rush" that occurs that can be compared with IV Coke.

- One can and ofent does stay up for DAYS doing this stupid kinda shit, and beliive my friend friend SWIM when he ways that as no point is it worth it.

- Pint-pong is more fun on I.V. ADD meds. SWIM knows it borders on irresponsible to mentio this, but he dies because he like ping-pong and he he likes it even more when shooting ADD meds.

SWIM's a little spun ATM so hopeufully there's something useful in there. The bottom line (for SWIM) is it's not woth I.V'ing ADD Meds and therefore (in keeping in line with thi thread) it's almost certainly not worth snorting them.

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- There's differend forms of Ritalin, each (if not some) require specific preparatation methodds for I.V. Use
dude ritalin is bunk compared to focalin.focalin imo is better than coke(swim gets the good shit too, flakes no powder) for two reasons purity and the high.the high is exactally the smae as coke except for the body high/numbing and it lasts twice as long.swim has never shot it but has smoked 15 mg on a bowl and wow he was flying higer than coke had ever got him.his pulse was 140bpm and someone slammed a car door in the parking lot near where he was and he jumped a foot in the air.it felt like all the dopamine in his brain was squirted out in one huge gush.he is guessing this is what crack is like.bottom line focalin kicks ass.and is waaaaay cheaper than coke.snorting is = to coke but again the high lasts double what coke does.
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Re: Snorting Focalin

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dude ritalin is bunk compared to focalin.focalin imo is better than coke(swim gets the good shit too, flakes no powder) for two reasons purity and the high.the high is exactally the smae as coke except for the body high/numbing and it lasts twice as long.swim has never shot it but has smoked 15 mg on a bowl and wow he was flying higer than coke had ever got him.his pulse was 140bpm and someone slammed a car door in the parking lot near where he was and he jumped a foot in the air.it felt like all the dopamine in his brain was squirted out in one huge gush.he is guessing this is what crack is like.bottom line focalin kicks ass.and is waaaaay cheaper than coke.snorting is = to coke but again the high lasts double what coke does.

Actually, Focalin and Ritalin are the same, except that Focalin contains just the d-isomer of methylphenidate, whereas Ritalin has more than just the d-isomer of methylphenidate. To my knowledge, the other isomers do almost nothing, except possibly add some discomfort in a minority of users.

I guess that means the placebo effect has worked its wonders yet again?
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Actually, Focalin and Ritalin are the same, except that Focalin contains just the d-isomer of methylphenidate, whereas Ritalin has more than just the d-isomer of methylphenidate. To my knowledge, the other isomers do almost nothing, except possibly add some discomfort in a minority of users.

I guess that means the placebo effect has worked its wonders yet again?
if the d isomer is 2-3 times as potent as the l isomer and focalin contains only the d isomer instead of a 50/50 mixture like ritalin then how is it not more potent/abuseable than ritalin.Its like l-methamphetamine compared to d-methamphetamine,the d isomer penetrates much better and acts on the cns more, where as the l isomer acts more on blood vessel constriction, physical effects,and dosent have much dopamine activity.pure d-meth is much more abuseable than than a mixture of dl meth.focalin is much more abuse worthy than ritalin.These results further demonstrate that affinity for catecholaminergic sites largely resides in the d-MPH isomer- http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/cap.2006.16.687

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Re: Snorting Focalin

Yes, Ritalin is not as potent at Focalin, because it contains less of the active isomer by weight. But, assuming that the division between the active and inactive isomers is half and half, ingesting 50mg of Ritalin should produce the same effects as 25mg of Focalin - but discomfort may be increased for some people.

Besides the presence of the undesirable isomers, the only thing changing is the quantity of the active methylphenidate isomer. Excluding some minor side effects, the same high can be achieved by either product - because in both drugs, the high is caused by the same active isomer.

Assuming that Ritalin is simply half as potent as Focalin in terms of the amount of the active methylphenidate isomer by weight, the differences between the highs of 50mg of Ritalin and 12.5mg of Focalin are really not any more different than the difference between 50mg of Ritalin and 25mg of Ritalin - excluding, of course, minor side effects caused by the 'inactive' isomers.
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