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Old 27-12-2005, 10:05
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Animals ON Psychedelics

Does anyone here know what are the reaction of animals to those substances? They act on the most complicated systems in the human's brain - the one that is responsible for your thoughts, feelings, consciouness etc. How animals act when they are psychedelised?

The only experience with animal and something close to psychedelic was when I got My cat high. He began looking round the room. but he wasn't as agressive as he was normally. He used to fight all the time with whatever he can find. Even with the carpet. He was just looking around with interest. When I left him walk wherever he wants, he went to drink some water (he drank it all) and then ate some food and fell asleep.

But I think the reaction of animals on classic psychedelics such as LSD, psylocibyn and other chemicals would be more interesting. Animals' reaction of MDMA would be an interesting topic, too.
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Try a google: LSD spider webs. I'm not kidding. Someone dosed a spider and did a photo survey of how it changed their web designs. Also poor spidey was dosed on other molecules. The most ineffective and messed-up web was when the arachnid was drugged with caffeine. Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly....
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Try a google: LSD spider webs. I'm not kidding. Someone dosed a spider and did a photo survey of how it changed their web designs. Also poor spidey was dosed on other molecules. The most ineffective and messed-up web was when the arachnid was drugged with caffeine. Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly....
I've seen that too. Here's the link:

http://www.psymon.com/psychedelia/images/spiders.html
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Psylocibin is a positive thing for some animals. At low doses, psylocibin increases your senses. You can see better and so on. So if for example a fox ate a small dose of mushrooms, he would become a better hunter. I'm not sure if this actually happens or not, but Terence McKenna talked about it.

Also, Ali G's friend gave his dog a couple of E's. The dog went mental, started barking, and tried to bone that cat. But that's just a TV show.
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Dogs on MDMA? Brilliant! Sounds like the idiot who fed an Elephant 170mg of LSD25.
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Dogs on MDMA? Brilliant! Sounds like the idiot who fed an Elephant 170mg of LSD25.
Uhh... what happened to the elephant?
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If your going to do that to your pet then there is nothing that I can do to stop you, but here are some ideas to make it less risky for your pet:

Remember that doseage is weight dependant.

Start them out with a tiny amount and work your way up. Put it on a new kind of food they they have not had before, and keep useing it each time. They will (hopefully) associate the food with the feeling they got the last time they took it. If they don't want to do it again then they will not eat it again.
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There are some species of animals that seek out psychoactive substances. Some monkeys in Hawaii and other tropical islands have developed a taste for alcohol. If you set your drink down, the local monkeys will snatch it and have a drink on the house. Some will drink to the point of intoxication.

There are monkeys in South America that catch a certain kind of betel or catapillar that secretes a psychoactive substance when it is wounded. The monkeys will rub the bug on a tree and drink the liquid. They had that on the discovery channel hehe.

Monkeys are pretty complex creatures though, with highly developed brains. You can't help but wonder if bugs are advanced enough to have emotions. They have to though, since sex is the driving force for most creatures. Sex is pleasurable, and pleasure is an emotion.
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The nitwit who dosed the elephant based the amount on the pachyderm's weight - not brain size. Their brain, like that of the researcher, is about the size of a peanut. 170 milligrams proved fatal. Unfortunately, the elephant didn't fall over dead on top of the idiot who dosed the poor thing.
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I wonder how they dose those spiders, and how they are sure the drug was actually absorbed.
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There are some species of animals that seek out psychoactive substances. Some monkeys in Hawaii and other tropical islands have developed a taste for alcohol. If you set your drink down, the local monkeys will snatch it and have a drink on the house. Some will drink to the point of intoxication.

There are monkeys in South America that catch a certain kind of betel or catapillar that secretes a psychoactive substance when it is wounded. The monkeys will rub the bug on a tree and drink the liquid. They had that on the discovery channel hehe.

Monkeys are pretty complex creatures though, with highly developed brains. You can't help but wonder if bugs are advanced enough to have emotions. They have to though, since sex is the driving force for most creatures. Sex is pleasurable, and pleasure is an emotion.
I saw a video of a pot smoking monkey before. I'll look for the link.
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The question was not about whether they seek psychoactive substances or not, but about their behaviour. Would a cat on shroomz for example be more agressive or more peaceful and things like that. How they behave while on drugs. What they do and so on. And the thing was particualrly about psychedelics and empathogens. I hope someone knows. There should be done many tests on animals with these drugs. Aren't there any notes somewhere about their behaviour?
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