Dose - Dose for Visual Hallucinations

[CrookedEye]

Swim is considered a hardhead, but prefers to always eat 5 grams or more, for a full blown experience...

[jarka]

If I buy 'a dose' I only get ~2 grams of mushrooms.. It's sad to think that I have to buy something like 3 doses to get a full blown experience.. Huh but I think 6 grams of Cubensis is alot

[neolix]

Hi

I've had a lot of mushroom trips but the thing I noticed is that the trip is never as strong as other consumers say.

I have tried various kind of mushroom and I always ate them.
-Tampanensis
-Mexican
-Super Mexican
-Colmombian
-Equatorians
-McKennai

I always waited at least 3 weeks between each trip. I ate various quantities (don't know exactly the weight, but for example when I bought shrooms in Maastricht, I paid 16-18euro per box. And I always ate the full box.). They were from different locations (online, or from a smartshop or another one,...)

I never reach hallucinations. The most I got were light colored waves of red green and , hm, blue i think.

I thought maybe. I had never took enough but it it the same with other drugs that are said to provide a good visual trip:
-LSA (Hawaian Baby Woodrose seeds). first I tried 20seeds, second time I did 40. I didn't even get a trip.

-nutmeg : I first took 5grams of pouder (one nut) : Nothing. After that I tried 3 and 4 nuts. I got nice trips which looked like a very long weed trip. Nothing that was written everywhere on the internet : bad physics effects, hallucinations,...

So what, am I special or !?

Peace.
thanks

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[IHrtHalucingens]

Everyones bodies react differently to different substances. SWIM has had similar experiences with mushrooms and LSD. He tripped with a friend of his who was having very vivid visuals and SWIM had nothing. Some people just have natural tolerances to some drugs.

Is SWIN on any prescription medications because that may have an effect on SWINs trips.

Also please read the rules and read about SWIM and self incrimination!!!!

Everyday an entrance exam seems better and better.

[Phungushead]

^LOL, we posted at like the same time.

SWIN may just be a hard head... SWIM has a friend who is like this and
needs like 7g dry (cubensis) to trip decently. SWIN can try to gradually
increase the dose of shrooms until reaching desired effects.

Also, if SWIN is on antidepressants (SSRI's) or something, that will diminish
psilocybin's effects a lot.

Empty stomach can help make the trip feel stronger as well.

[Forthesevenlakes]

individuals also vary widely in response to shrooms. SWIM never got visuals from mushrooms, acid, or dxm, and thinks that he may just react slightly differently to them. with mushrooms, objects such as paintings could take on a slightly different aspect to them, almost as if they looked more "real", but never any full blown visuals. SWIM was not using any prescription meds at the time. so swiy may just not react in such a way to get visuals, at least at lower doses.

[neolix]

thanks for your answers. I always ate them with empty stomack and I never ate anything during the trips. I dont take any med.

looks like i just need more drugs to get the same effect, or that I react differently that the usual way.

[chAos]

swim trips better when he is only with a tripsitter (or alone). When swim trips with more people he always thinks he's trip isn't strong enough because the others are saying they have great visuals etc.

Also, swiy might take a look at MAOI's, but be safe .

[Nature Boy]

Some people expect too much from their psychedelic visuals. SWIM has had what can be described as open eye visuals but these have never been blatantly obvious. Visuals are more often minor subtleties observed through an altered state of perception. Don't expect to see pink elephants and green giraffes. Closed eye visuals on the other hand can be a lot more apparent but these are also formulaic to a degree. It's only on ridiculously high doses of psychedelics that people experience full-blown visuals, when the thin line between accepting the fact that you are on a trip and complete psychedelic confusion is crossed.

[big_mac]

MAn, if u r doing shrooms and u aint getting visuals, take my advice. .................................................. .........................

DO 7 GRAMS, anything less simply isnt worth the time, im sure the real shroomers here would agree

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[skaterdienick]

Originally Posted by big_mac

MAn, if u r doing shrooms and u aint getting visuals, take my advice. .................................................. .........................

DO 7 GRAMS, anything less simply isnt worth the time, im sure the real shroomers here would agree

"real shroomers" would not agree. real shroomers would say that swiy's advice is bogus and that mushroom potency varies. someone could take 3.5 grams of one strain and trip balls while another batch may require more. jumping into 7 grams would be mental suicide if they were in fact extremely potent. its possible to eat more. its not possible to take them away after you already consumed.

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Quite correct!

[Jatelka]

big mac. The advice you give is potentially dangerous. Some people do require larger doses. However this should be determined by GRADUALLY increasing the dose.

[big_mac]

ya but u aint gonna OD or die of 7, u mostlikely will have an INTENSe trip, maybe bad trip if u call it that, but if this guy aint getting visuals he either aint taking enough or he aint getting the right stuff

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by big_mac

ya but u aint gonna OD or die of 7, u mostlikely will have an INTENSe trip, maybe bad trip if u call it that, but if this guy aint getting visuals he either aint taking enough or he aint getting the right stuff

That really depends on what you define as an OD, someone could quite easily have an extremely intense traumatic horrible experience from consuming 7grams of drug mushrooms. I personally believe that when SWIF used mushrooms he expected too much from visuals but he got a very differant experience which was in fact more enjoyable. At SWIJ says, slowly increase the dose and find out what is best for you.

[Abrad]

SWIM has had some intense experiences which were not very visual. Tripping isn't just about visuals and as Fantasian said some people have a ridiculous idea of what tripping is like.

DO 7 GRAMS, anything less simply isnt worth the time, im sure the real shroomers here would agree

This kind of attitude really irritates me. Not only is it blatant dick-sizing on your part but it also encourages people to take doses they may not be ready for. Nobody here will be impressed that you consider yourself a "real shroomer" and take large doses.

[Phungushead]

Yep. Not to mention that mushroom trips themselves can be unpredictable.
Each trip is different. SWIM has had earth-shattering experiences on 5g
before, and relativley mellow ones on 7g (and that's mushrooms that were
all from the same batch [p. cubensis]).

[hh339]

@big_mac: I think SWIY would rethink his statement if he tried to eat 7 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens mushrooms. Dont assume that everyone else will react the same as SWIY to the same dose. People can end up in hospital or worse. Its no joke.

[trip.more]

swim never gets visuals ether but gets a very strong mental effect that makes it worth the effort.That is what your looking for not colors, whats going on mentally.One thing swim notices is his thought prossess speeds up dramatically.

[wteetw]

Swim's past dosage of shrooms is half a dub. However, he has not seen any weird visuals/colors. Swim is taking a full dub tomorrow. Do shrooms actually make you see things? or is it just not strong enough?

[Phungushead]

Effects vary between trips, and between different lab animals. Potency
also varies between mushrooms. Personally, Labrat's threshold for visuals
is around 2-2.5g dried (cubensis). But it just depends - on the extremely
high end, Labrat has a friend who needs 5g+ to have a decent trip.

But keep in mind that the mental effects are the most dominant during a
mushroom trip. The visuals more of a beautiful side effect. At a high
enough dose, the visuals become almost meaningless and are forgotten
because the mind trip is so strong.

[Rhin]

Depending on the mushrooms I get this is always what I do because I like to guarantee a visual trip.

1 gram happy.
2 gram mild visuals in the dark.
3-4 grams random open eye visuals in light and more complex in dark.
5 - Usually guaranteed open eyed visuals for a while.
6+ - no matter what shrooms SWIM gets this always brings him to mushroom land where no matter what he looks at somethings always going on.

Also swim says, let SWIYself go and he should see stuff don't force anything out of the trip just go with the flow, stare at something for long enough.

[Coconut]

1.5g dried Psilocybe cubensis gives closed-eye visuals. 2g gives some mild open-eye visuals, particularly distortions.