Smoking - kratom Vaporization

[snapper]

Wondering if anyone has tried to vaporize leaf? Most curious about temp of optimal vaporization and effects. SWIM has found that smoking resin does have some mild effect, but not enough to use alone, though it is a good booster after oral dosing. SWIM was hoping that vaporization might make smoking alone adequate. If no one has tried it, SWIM will attempt this sometime soon and post results.

SNAPPER

[nEone]

How did this experiment turn out? SWIM just came into possession of a Vapir digital vaporizer and is interested in trying various blends.

[Hyperspaceblastoff]

i have a valcano and i blast it at the same temp as weed
and gives me similar effects

[Swimster]

here's a quote frome here: http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html

"Kratom can be smoked, but doing so has no advantage over chewing or making a tea from it. The amount of leaf that constitutes a typical dose is too much to be smoked easily"

[nEone]

Well - right, I suppose my point was - does vaporizing provide a more efficient delivery than smoking? SWIM is pretty happy with just toss-n-wash - but the effects can take quite a while to hit (up to an hour) because it has to go through the digestive tract.

Smoking, in general, is wasteful - vaporizing is new to SWIM, but it would appear that it's more efficient, not taxing on the lungs, and might be a good way of "priming" - toss-n-wash as normal and then vape a bit of powder to get the ball rolling.

Ah well, it would appear that more research is in order...

[Swimster]

well to be more specific about strictly vaporization instead of burn/vaporization, than it should be obviouss that strictly vaporizing will be better, it will save WAY more, instead of burning some to useless things, this case is true for many substances. burning is not good. and in some cases bad.

...but swim also wonders if smoking pure K VIA Vap is sufficent enough or worth it.

swiy could perhaps use a generic home-made light-bulb vap.

OR...! Maybee a combination of a vaporizer and a gravity bong to stuff it down ones lungs in small hitts.

swim is highly intrigued, and is a crafty person, he would definately do it if he had K right now.

[nEone]

As luck would have it - SWIM just came across a Vapir unit.

So - it would appear that tomorrow will be a day of discovery.

[Swimster]

cool, report when possible.

Goodluck

[snapper]

SWIM read somewhere that 7ho vaporizes but not mitragynine, so vaporizing may ultimately decrease potency.

[nEone]

Well, SWIM tried a little experiment this morning.

On a fresh head - empty stomach, plenty of sleep, SWIM took out his new VAPIR vaporizer. If you aren't familiar with this kind of machine, it has little metal baskets that are filled with herb and then popped into the machine - they only hold about a half-teaspoon of material, and you're supposed to not pack the basket full to allow for greater aeration.

SWIM took the end of a bag of finely ground Bali leaf and filled the little basket up about 2/3rds of the way.

He pre-heated the VAPIR to 400, popped the disc into the machine and brought the temp down to 350. The aroma came through the hose - not strong, not bitter, very earthy. SWIM breathed in all of the vapors for a good 10 minutes with the fan on medium.

The initial effects came on slower than a bong hit, but faster than oral kratom ingestion. Interestingly the effects were all very much located in the head. Normally, SWIM finds that the experience is a "body" experience - but this was very head-centric.

The effect was more "stoning" than what SWIM normally thinks of as a "Kratom" experience. That said - it was NOT at all like being "Stoned" - not an MJ high, but just more of a clouded denseheaded sensation.

Normally, Kratom provides SWIM with a clear, energetic boost that can transition into a more relaxed state. This was not similar to that, and was not particularly conducive to anything productive.

As this is a single experiment - SWIM is cautious that there is possibly a placebo effect, though the effect was marked enough to notice.

SWIM will repeat the experiment again for confirmation - the experience was not unpleasant - but not "Kratom-like".

[MzEnthusiastic]

Plz do keep us posted on future experiments... very intriguing - Thanks for sharing.