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M-1-t (Methyl-1-testosterone)
Does anyone know what exactly M-1-t is? I have heard it is a sub. for Roids but I can't find any info on it.
The reason I am asking is because I have a bottle of it, and I was wondering if I should take it? because I have been going to the Gym alot lately. |
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Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This structural modification makes steroids much more orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the liver. Although it has only been widely available for a short period of time, feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method, and it is hands down the most effective oral product. On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly. It does not have a long history of use or a well-established safety profile, and proper precautions should be taken.
The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of 1-test – it does not convert to estrogen, and it is highly anabolic and moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When compared to orally administered methyltestosterone, methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as androgenic. The side effects reported by users of methyl 1-test are many and individual reactions vary considerably. The most commonly reported side effect is lethargy, which can range from mild to severe. Other common side effects include increased blood pressure, bloating, joint pains, cramps, mild headaches, insomnia, aggressiveness, and irritability. Many users also find that methyl 1-test decreases appetite, which can be harmful or beneficial depending on one's goals. These side effects can be reduced by lowering dosage or taking smaller doses more frequently. Combining it with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help, but feedback on this is limited. Another concern with methyl 1-test (and methylated steroids in general) is hepatotoxicity. Although this tends to be exaggerated, it is still prudent to take certain precautions. First and foremost, other substances that are toxic to the liver (such as alcohol) should be avoided to avoid placing extra stress on the liver. If methyl 1-test is stacked, it would be best to stack it with something other than an oral steroid/prohormone, such as a transdermal. Milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine are commonly recommended to help protect the liver. For further information on 17aa steroids and hepatotoxicity, see the following article: Hepatotoxicity: Fact or Fiction, by Roy Harper When taking methyl 1-test, it is best to start out with at least a week at a dose of 5-10 mg to see how one reacts. Many users find this range to be effective, while others feel the ideal amount is 20-40 mg. It comes down to the experience, goals, and individual reaction. Many find a lower dose to be just as effective as a higher one, but with less side effects. With a compound such as this, it is generally best to err on the side of caution, especially for those that are less experienced with steroids. Most seem to find their ideal dose to be in the 10-30 mg range. Cycle length should be kept short, in the range of 1-4 weeks. Finally, it is especially important to take adequate time off after each cycle with this substance to allow the body to recover. |
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Jesus. I think I should do some more research before even considering this. Thanx man!!!!!!
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M1T can be used to great efect aslog as you understand what you are doing and follow up with some PCT (post cycle therapy).
- Only take between 20mg and 40mg for your cycle. There is no need to go any higher than this because the sides will be unbearable. - take some liver support suplements such as milk thistle, ALA and NA do decrease the stress on your liver. - 4 weeks should be enough. If it isnt, keep going but not beyond 6 weeks. - have a good PCT to folow up with. Here is a basic PCT: nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) for 4 weeks at 40mg,40mg,20mg,20mg each day. Make sure you eat like a horse while on it. And dont drink alcohol |
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M1T is extremely hepatoxic so drinking alcohol wouldnt be a smart idea while on or for the following month while on PCT.
Eat like a horse while on M1T. More protein + more calories = more muscle |
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Even though I read your post a 2 days ago, SWIM wasn't thinking last night and had a few drinks (4 beers to be exact). Now Im not sure if this is all in my head because of this thread, or if there is actually a problem, but something inside of my body doesn't feel right to day. I have been on the M1T for 4 days, and have been eating healthy, but I think something about last night has an important role in the way I feel today.
It feels like pressure with a bit of pain (sort of like a bruise) I will monitor myself for the next day or so and see how I feel, if it still feels the same I will stop, but I am for sure going to get a Liver Toxic Reducer tomorrow... Any opinions will be greatly appreciated.............. |
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If the pain continues for more than 2 days id stop taking the M1T and not drink or take any drugs for a while. In my personal opinion steroids or M1T or nething realted really isnt worth the side effects. i seriously thought about going on a cycle or two of steroids just to bulk up then keep working out liek crazy and eat lots and lots of protein to keep the weight, but decided on it only as a lsat resort. I work out like 5-6 times a week, and have been for about 6 months now. I eat 2grams of protein for every pound of body weight every day. i started at 6' 4" 160 lbs and in 6 months just taking the protein and vitamins ive gained 35lbs. although with steroids i know u can gain that weight in 6 weeks, i am pleased with the results and feel alot better knowing i did it the safest way. i am still gaining weight and plan to stop around 210lbs or so, hopefully within another 2-3 months. But if u continue using the M1T and dont drink and u feel fine and get the gains u want i suppose its not too bad, id be curious to here what kind of gains u do get. Good luck hope ur ok.
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^ Good work on the gains, that is a phenominal increase naturally. Though it begs the question; How much fat id you put on while bulking?
Cure20, you should stop the M1T and go and pick up some Milky Thistle from your closest healtstore. Im sorry that you didnt realise just how much I meant that you couldnt drink on it. I hope you know now "If pain percists, see your doctor"- Panadol ads |
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i did put on a good amount of fat, all i do is eat all day long like all the time, along with taking the protein, my plan was to put on the pounds first then worry about cutting. i know ill prolyl lose some of the weight but thats fine with me i dont need to be really big i was just tired of being so skinny, thats y i wanna put on some more weight b4 cutting my protien intake and really woring on toning up. i am ver yahppy with my gains i work very hard for them and it gives me a good sense of accomplishment. i had tried testosterone supplements and HGH, but those did absolutely nothing. i use a book that gives me work outs for certain situations, such as putting on bulk. ive found the difference is really doing multiple variations of the same excersize really isolating the muscle groups before moving on to the next exersize.
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I've never heard anything good about M1T in the medium-long run (i.e. no gains that last more than 2-3 weeks, lots of sides). It commonly causes pain in the lower back that many believe is kidney toxicity. This drug and its spawn is the reason that androstene-dione derivatives were illegalized in the U.S. There are better ones out there which were REAL steroids that were banned recently as well (banned because of M1T). Check out Masterol... I think that's one which is not in the banned list. (not sure about the spelling)
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I have stopped and thrown them in the garbage.
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Keep them, they are good when used properly. i bet that the only rason why gains are lost in 2- 3 weeks is from a drop in training intensity, inproper nutrition and no PCT
Methasteron, aka 17a-methyldrantolone, Superdrol. This is a rippin' steroidsolid gains with relatively few ie effects. i also like the sound of the hormone in Phera-Plex |
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yeah, I remembered the proper name after I fell asleep last night... it's SUPERDROL!!! (sounds neat, huh?)
so, when you say relatively few ie effects, do you mean to say relatively few side effects, or are you making fun of--saying it has relatively few effects? and yeah, you may be right about all the people just dropping their training intensity, etc... but I think this M1T is way way out there in the land of incredibly difficult to recover land. like crying in your car on the way to work out there. |
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methasteron is extremely anabolic and very androgenic (due to it being a hihydro). It is easily capable of causing androgenic side effects such as balding (in those with a family history of it), prostate enlargement, ance and oily skin. These generally only happen when taking 40mgs per day (or if your sensitive to it).
It doesnt aromatize into estrogen so you wont have water- or fat-retention. There is olaso no possibility of gyno (aka: bitch tits). You will need to keep that it is extremly hepatoxic. Other side effects are lathergy, painful lower-back pumps, aggresion (rare) and negative HPTA feedback resulting in reduced natural testosterone production. The large part of these side effects can be easily avoided by keeping doses at about 20 - 30mg per day. PCT will bring your 'boys' back if they managed to shrink in the 3 - 4 eeks that you were on |
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