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i have heard of ppl having "psychic" trips on dissociatives, where a group of people all have the same visuals at the same time. has anyone else heard of/had any experiences with this happening?
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Cant say i have, but under the influence of drugs especailly what 1 person is thinkin/saying/doing can effect other peoples thoughts and actions to quite a degree.
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yes its true you feel very "connected" to everything like you can understand the hidden meaning behind artistic works or what other people are saying (or what they really "mean")
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Ive never come across this with K but have with other chemicals like LSD
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Yes, ive expierenced this with a group of people,but we weren't on dissociatives like K or DXM but on MDMA.We even did a test were we made drawings of things we saw and showed the drawings to eachother afterwarts mainly cause we couldn't believe what was happening to us.
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After an excursion on a-MT before it was outlawed here in the USA, I fell asleep with a friend who was going through some troubles with a young lady. We both entered a shared dream-state. The theme of this dream was Star Trek, he being Kirk and I Mr. Spock. I was trying to warn him that an alien he was dealing with was going to harm him. He denied this. Then the alien took out a light-weapon and cut off his genitals. We both woke up and stared at each other. Comparing notes, it was the exact same dream.
But he did not listen to the dream. He moved across the state to live with his new lady. After he had totally changed his life around to meet her requirements, she declared she was a lesbian and kicked him out. Stupid Kirk! To your question: Yes it is quite possible. Last edited by Nagognog2; 09-12-2005 at 13:48. |
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i have also experienced shared hallucinations and communicating through esp while on high doses of LSD.
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heheheheh i love this story seen it before in a thread. I would really love something like that happening to me, i'm all for the weird and bizar(in a very sceptic way). |
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I have experienced shared open-eye hallucinations whilst on MDE before, not just once but several times throughout the night. When I go ketting with close friends I usually feel a kind of psychic 'connection' to them, an indescribable yet definite link, even when we are mentally in quite different places.
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Group DXM trips are amazing. You think psychcic shit and shared trips are something special? Shit!
Group DXM trips are crazy and my favorite FAVORITE thing about them is the "DXM Area Of Effect". If you get enough people high on DXM and go somewhere (I like the mall, the ebach, etc.) you'll come across people... and people who are entirely sober never takena drug before in their life, will be completely fucked up and trip nuts. The trip for them is mental (and sometimes physical, I've seen people's eyes roll around on many occasion, they get a robo-walk, slurred speech etc.) with lots of confusion. A lot of m yfriends and I dubbed it "getting hit by the DXM train"... and really a lot of people look like they have just been hit by a train right in their face. As an anecdote to explain the story... Two interlinked experiences where people tripped due to others tripping on DXM. 1.) I was in Orlando and watching Ichi The Killer with a few people, and began screaming things at the movie and relating the moviue to real-life and basically almost brought a few people to enlightenment over the shit. Everyone I know who was there or in the area has since purchased the movie and it is one of our favorites. Aside from that, sduring the scene when Kakihara and the lady rip the guy's face off I was screaming ignorant shit like "RIP A NIGGA FACE OFF!" at the TV. It became a popular saying amongst many of my friends (of all races). One time, with a group of moistly white friends, we stole a lighter out of someone's car in the parking lot of Publix right before the people returned to their car. There were several younger black males and a alrge white friend of mine was tripping going crazy in the back seat saying RIP A NIGGA FACE OFF, unaware of the situation. The car next to usa ctually elft before us and we inadvertantly followed them toa stop sign. At the stop sign, they stopped, and the passanger got out and came up to my door/window (I was riding shotgun) and, his eyes were going wild like rolling all over and he goes "Did someone say something about rip my face off?" and in a very unthreatening way, he sounded like some kind of deer caught in tghe headlights, very weird I said "No dude, its from a movie, called Ichi The Killer" The guy replied " I aint trying to watch no movies today dawg" I was like "Are you fucked up on something?" and he was like "What? What, like drugs?" and after a long pause just kind of stumble robo-walked back to the other car and they left. One of the most fucked up I've ever seen someone, and judging by the time of day (it was early in the morning) and the perceived intentions that the individual may have had when he originally approached our car... its easy to see how things were very strange. After much reflection, I think its pretty safe to assume he was just "hit by the DXM train". I can only imagine what he had to tell the other people in the car after he stumbled back... O_o |
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A few DXM experiences come to mind.
1. About a year ago I was tripping with 3 close friends on DXM and one of them looked at me spoke some intelligible gibberish. I responded with "sure," and got him a drink. Apparently I somehow understood the nonsense as that was what he wanted, but was too far gone to form anything approximating understandable english, much less walk the 15 feet to the fidge to get some kool-aid. The other two people had no understanding whatsoever of what he was trying to communicate, which was odd considering that they formed a triumvirate of sorts and were very close, whereas I was simply a good friend and roommate. 2. I was tripping with my girlfriend a few months back and we were watching Family Guy together. I asked her if she had any visuals, and as she described them my own hallucinations changed to match her description. This was odd as I have never had any conscience control over my DXM visuals. I simply asked her what she saw, and she spoke them into my reality. 3. While tripping with the previously mentioned triumvirate we were walking outside when one of them commented on how beatiful the moon was that night. We all looked up and the others all saw it, while I couldn't find anything in the sky that could even be mistake for the moon. Turns out the moon wasn't out that night to anyone, except them. 4. While living in Atlanta almost a year ago I would trip with a friend at a duplex we had acces to. At a certain point in the night, always around the same time in the trip, if we turned all the lights out in the bedroom to make it pitch black the walls and ceiling would dissapear and we could observe the stars and trees around the house. The starlight actually illuminated the area so that we could clearly see each other and the bed and floor of the room. |
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Re: psychic trips?
i think phycic trips are possible on ket because when you talk to ppl after sniffin a line or 2 you can realy understand what they are sayin and you can get a very clear mental picture of what they are telling you, this could be exacly the same mental picture the person that is talking to u has in their mind.
being able to look into your own mind for a start is slightly phycic, being able to control what your mind does. i have found myself trapped inside my own mind trying to find the reason for mine and every1 elses existence on earth. |
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Re: psychic trips?
Swim is eager to try some of these things, epecially DXM. However, as relates to the psychic aspects, swim thinks he has had some damn strong telepathy going on with mushrooms and LSD both. Swims girlfriend has read his thoughts and vice versa. Swim read that Tryptamines have this effect, and might be responsible for NDE's. Hard to say, but there is some wierd stuff going on that that you only notice when Swiys really tripping hard. So, there's my input for the day. This is a great topic.
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Re: psychic trips?
ESP is not real, there is absolutely no scientific evidence for it despite decades of research. Its just the drugs. However if you feel Im wrong I suggest you check out the Amazing Randis challenge, where you can make a million dollars by demonstrating psychic ability:
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html |
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Re: psychic trips?
Maybe purposly trying to have any phychic abilities isnt possible, but having natural psychic trips might be possible. its like when you try to forget somethin - its impossible, you can only forget somethin naturally. there are parts of the mind that you cannot control, your heart beat for example. maybe theres a psychic part of the brain and certain drugs simulate it.
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Re: psychic trips?
I have witnessed and experienced real "psychic" phenomena many times. Never were these events the result of the person/s trying to do such. They were random. Most certainly not part of some charade designed to separate people from their money or other occluded selfish agenda. These were real and verified. Drugs were not involved or causative.
These events are possible. But we don't understand the mechanisms involved. Is it chemical? Is it purely psychological? Genetic? We simply don't know, yet, how these things happen. So of course no scientific basis can be established. Science involves repeatable events.If I pour gasoline on a wooden surface and strike a match to such, it will cause a fire and the wood will burn. That establishes a scientific law that wood and gasoline are flammable. Anyone can repeat the experiment and verify the scientifica law/principle are valid and can't be disputed within the parameters of the experiment. If you have a dream that fortells a future event which comes true in every detail of the dream, I can't snap my fingers and repeat your experiment with any expectation of success. But this does not diminish the validity of your experience. |
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