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Old 23-07-2010, 22:28
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Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

My Friend recently moved to a new city and can only get heroin that is cut with Dormin (diphenhydramine). He is a snorter and this stuff seems to be best for shooting. Will Dormin interfere with absorbtion in the sinus? Will the Dormin itself be absorbed through mucous membranes? thanks for any help
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Old 24-07-2010, 22:35
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

In Chicago pretty much all the dope is cut with Dormin. SWIM would say it improves the feeling of the dope by like 50% when you inject - makes it a lot, lot smoother. SWIM is in Detroit now and just getting semi-pure rocks, and they don't feel nearly as good as Dormin-cut heroin.

Regarding snorting, SWIM started out just snorting it. SWIM is not really sure if the Dormin is absorbed nasally, but doesn't think it has an effect on the feeling/quality the dope the same way shooting it does.

SWIM will also add, it was okay when SWIM was only snorting 2-3 bags a day. When SWIM got up to snorting 5+ bags a day of Dormin-cut heroin, he developed really bad lung problems. His lungs were constantly weezing, and it got to the point where he literally could not walk across the room without gasping for breath. It took him about 2 hours to struggle to walk to an urgent care clinic (which would otherwise have been a 10-15 minute walk for him) and they said his lungs were extremely inflamed and gave him steroids and an asthma alleviating drug. He ended up going back to the clinic a couple times, and nothing they did helped him, he was basically crippled and couldn't get around for 2-3 weeks until he stopped snorting and started injecting. The same thing happened to his brother, and his brother told him that when he went to the clinic, the doctor told him he sees this type of lung problem in a lot in heroin addicts who snort the dope around Chicago.

From what SWIM has experienced, seen, and heard from others, Dormin-cut seems very likely to be what causes these serious lung problems.

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Old 25-07-2010, 05:35
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

Thanks for the heads up Man. So far this is the purest shit my friend can find around chi-town. Who knew ohio had purer dope than chicago? He can already tell this shit is fuckin up his nose.

benderman added 13 Minutes and 37 Seconds later...

P.s. do you think the bigger chunks are dormin and the finer white powder is the dope? Maybe he shouldn't spend so much time chopping it up so fine.

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Old 25-07-2010, 06:39
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

SWIM was able to buy raw dope, but only after he had been spending a shitload of money and finally got the dealer to sell him half OZs of raw. Almost all of the street dope you'll find in Chi is Dormin-ated. Like I said it's awesome for shooting (better than pure dope in SWIM's opinion), not so much for snorting.

You can find some of the different kinds of dope around Chicago, although they aren't as prevalent. If you can find some of the brownish powdered shit it is the best for snorting, but again it's something you have to really seek out and get lucky with a connect. The dudes on the corner in the ghetto selling mostly to homeless people aren't gonna have it.

And to answer your question, the fine white powder is the Dormin. Just another factoid - bags will sometimes have pink or blue chips in them, which are the Dormin cases.

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Old 25-07-2010, 15:40
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

Thanks again man. Yeah, definitely pink flecks in the bags. My friends science experiments are telling him that Dormin must be readily absorbed through mucous membranes, because he just realized, he's been nodding on the shit for a week and hasn't hardly had the itchies at all. Antihistamines, really work.
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:26
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

Update:

Swim started to experience some of the symptoms dyingtomorrow mentioned. Swim thought he would share some of the tricks he has learned for getting less potentially dangerous powder in his lungs. This is is assuming the user has water-soluble powder heroin. (which most powder in the U.S. is)

1. Always snort small bumps no matter how much you intend to do.
2. Snort fast and hard and stop inhaling as soon as the dope is off the surface it was on. This helps it to run into the mucous membranes in your sinus, so it doesn’t continue don your esophagus.
3. Always use a straw and GENTLY insert it high into the nose. (cut off Bic pen works well)
4. If your sinuses are dry from previous dope use, snort a little water before you snort the dope.
5. After a couple bumps in each nostril, bend your neck forward and lean over like you are looking backwards between your knees. This causes more blood to flow to your sinuses, so it can carry the dope to your brain. It also gives the dope more time to absorb, before it runs down your throat.

Swim hopes this helps. Since he has been doing these things, he no longer has breathing problems.

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Old 02-09-2010, 05:09
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

SWIM would actually say that you should snort lightly to try and just get the dope in your nose and sinuses. The problem is if you are snorting a lot of Dormin dope, the Dormin gets in your lungs, and that's what causes the (pretty serious) lung problems. You can minimalize that to some degree by not snorting too hard.

SWIM also recommends, when snorting (anything), to always snort a little water like bender said before. Then blow your nose out really well. SWIM believes this helps with absorption and to keep the powder in the nose and sinuses.
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:31
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

is dormin put it to stop ichin? sorry just wondering, swim never done herion but has done opiates and he never minded the inch maybe cause it meant he was good and high.
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

It's put in to increase profits for the dealer, and increase the nod for the user. It also helps with the itches because it's an antihistamine.

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Old 08-09-2010, 23:28
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

yeah. it really does a number on the lungs. expecially if swiys the type to take a shot and smoke a shitload of cigarettes like swim.
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

Swim says that back home in a large city near Chicago most
users preferred buying their china cut with dormin rather then
the raw. The dormin seems to make the nod come on stronger.

^ Kailey beat swim too it.
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

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My Friend recently moved to a new city and can only get heroin that is cut with Dormin (diphenhydramine). He is a snorter and this stuff seems to be best for shooting. Will Dormin interfere with absorbtion in the sinus? Will the Dormin itself be absorbed through mucous membranes? thanks for any help
This stuff is also known as "cheese", it's diphenhydramine mixed with heroin, sometimes it's got paracetamol in it too. This is usually cut into black tar and the white powder of the diphenhydramine gives it a yellow colour, hence the name cheese.

It was supposed to be aimed mainly at kinds and supposedly it was so it could be snorted more easily, best to stay away from it, not because of the diphenhydramine so much but because it will be low quality crap.
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

The blue chips in the dope are usually from Sleepinal, another Diphenhydramine-based sleep aid. SWIM thinks Sleepinal sucks and that Dormin is an excellent adulterant. Many shops on the WS sell it openly, which is nice because one would not have to go to a web site to get it...

Definitely nice to have this around, especially if one thinks of whacking a gram or 2
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Re: Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

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This stuff is also known as "cheese", it's diphenhydramine mixed with heroin, sometimes it's got paracetamol in it too. This is usually cut into black tar and the white powder of the diphenhydramine gives it a yellow colour, hence the name cheese.

It was supposed to be aimed mainly at kinds and supposedly it was so it could be snorted more easily, best to stay away from it, not because of the diphenhydramine so much but because it will be low quality crap.
Dope in the Chi is definately not Tar mixed with Dorm. I have never seen or known anyone thats seen black tar anywhere around Chi. The raw thats in rock for, when smashhed with a card turns to powder which tar does not. Also dorm for sure increases the high when snorting. When I first came across raw i thought it was garbage because the pre cut bags were getting me higher. Then I started cutting my own dope with dorm and now I would never do raw without it because I would feel its a waste of D

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