TV - Can u make English subtitles for Dutch show: Slikken & Spuiten?

[sadskills1987]

would anybody who speaks dutch and english be able to make subtitles, or at least write a brief synopsesfor episodes ofthe show "spuiten en slikken"? some asshole pissed off the kind person who made them for the first episode, and all us dumb english speaking people who got hooked on the show are nowcompletely in the dark about what's going on. it's possible to guess a few things here and there,but it's still not enough to understand what's going on.any help with this would be much appreciated by the english speaking members of thedrug culture around the world.

[Freak_]

Its a nice Idea.I opened a thread about this in the netherlands forum.
I'm speaking german and can understand a bit more than you but I only
understand a little bit. And when im stoned i understand nothing.

Perhaps you could post this in the NL forum too....or a netherlands
speaking member could post this 'cause english posts will be deleted in
the NL forum.

[antigenesis]

Ahhh, now I'm interested. Please repost here with info about the show, and progress with those subtitles.

[Alfa]

Sorry, no time. Check out the episode of this week: Filemon tried speed this time and since it is the time of St. Nicolaas (the original Santa Clause) he is traditionally dressed up like one of the helpers of St. Nicolaas. Snorting a shitload of amphetamine, stomping trough the red light district (handing out candy to the hookers) and listening to hardcore gabber house on a small boat going trough the amsterdam channels. Another cool episode. I found it amusing. They showed the next day burn out as well.

[Caliform]

I am always ready to make some subs. I don't know if I have time to sync them properly, but hey. Where do you guys get them episodes then? VCR'ed?

[Alfa]

You can watch them here: http://www.bnn.nl/view/542/1022/7802454 but you have to log in there by registering.

[elbow]

I'd be willing to help make some subtitles. language-wise. I'm pretty good at translating from Dutch to English, but I am not sure if I am technologically up to it, is it difficult to do? I'm not amazingly computer-literate.

Anyway, Sadskills, if you want my help with this, just pm me how I should do it. I'm off school in January so I'll have some time.

And thanks for the link, Alfa, I've been wanting to see this sooo bad!

[Caliform]

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

Originally Posted by Caliform

http://img497.imageshack.us/full.php?image=ss4zs.jpg

does anyone know what kind of file sharing tool this is a pic of?

Franken:

That is a hell of a job you've done!! Wish I could pos. rep both of your translations. You more than deserve it!!

[Free Spirit]

Originally Posted by norweger

does anyone know what kind of file sharing tool this is a pic of?

Appears to be eMule...


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Alfa: if this is still on, would it be a good idea if someone were to make clips of the parts about drugs? Assuming these are the parts of interest, it will save a lot of time translating if one doesn't have to transcribe all the other chatter...

Just a thought...

[toasted]

Hello everyone, I'm new here.

I recently watched the first episode and became interested in the show. It really looks like that there are no subs for rest of the episodes yet.

Is anyone perhaps making 'em? Would be great for us who don't understand dutch.

[Alfa]

Those who want to contribute, can watch the show and note the translated sentences. Post everything in one post here. Please note which episode you are translating. I know you will make a lot of members happy. As said Caliform will make subs from them.

[elbow]

Hey guys, I ckecked bnn and you have to pay for the registration, so I'm slowly torrenting episodes of the show and when I get it d/l 'ed I'll see how the subbing goes.

[Alfa]

Here you go:
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051010.asf Alcohol
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051017.asf cocaine
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051024.asf XTC
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051031.asf GHB
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051107.asf Shrooms
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051114.asf Female orgasme, virtual masturbator, making home movies & LSD
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051121.asf Weed
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051128.asf Heroin
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051205.asf Speed
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20051212.asf Legalisation & comparison of the above drugs.

[Alfa]

The new series have started:
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http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20060306.asf Premature ejaculation, cocaine traces on money & poppers
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http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20060410.asf Smart products(Herbal ecstasy)
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[elbow]

Okay, so I started to translate the LSD episode. I got through about 7 minutes, which I'll post now and follow up with the rest of it soon. I will skip to the part where the guy takes LSD because it is probably what we are interested in here, it begins at 8:25...

Hostess Lady:
we talk about sex, but we also talk about drugs and if you also take drugs, perhaps what Filomen has to show us today can give a new impulse to your sex life, because your partner could seem like a sort of heavenly being who brings you to cosmic ecstasy. Filomen has done it somewhat differently…with a (male) friend sitting together in a living room, nonetheless with a crazy wallpaper. This week, Filomen tests: LSD

Filomen:
this week, I will take LSD, a strong/heavy drug with a psychedelic effect. You trip, hallucinate, really for 6 hours you are trapped inside your own head and you learn something about yourself, which is never wrong. I’m locking the windows because sometimes people think they can fly during LSD trips
“expert” guy:
Yes, LSD is an important substance, that can give you access to your pieces to you inner self that does not happen in your ordinary existence.
Filomen:
We’re going to use this together, which is okay because you have used LSD a few times and I trust you, which is very important with LSD you should always do it with people that you trust and feel comfortable with. Now this is the LSD, on these little pieces of paper. Should we take a whole one?
Friend:
Now, what we’re going to do is at first split a piece of paper and later we’ll see if we want more.
Filomen:
Says that he feels nervous and his friend says that is normal it is healthy to feel nervous
Filomen:
It is not bad?
Friend:
absolutely not
Filomen:
(takes out the blotter) How strange, it is like tiny postage stamps. Here we have normal scissors, to do your chores with LSD
Words on the Screen: "A papertrip is difficult to dose, always test your doses!”
Expert:
An LSD overdose can lead to an outburst of complete panic so you have to do it with people who know what they are doing and also have verified the source
Filomen:
Now I’m already beginning to feel it a bit. I’m feeling slow, you could say, if I move my eyes from right to left, it seems sort of slower and more sensitive
Words on the screen: “If you don’t like mushrooms, then LSD is certainly not for you!”
Filomen:
I want to go, like this (make a motion with his hands), you could say. The door moved!
Friend:
It’s a truck outside.
Filomen:
I’m going to put on a game, oh it’s difficult!
Friend:
everything is difficult (laughing) How’s it going?
Filomen:
Yes, I feel different. This sort of trip…uuh…everything is complicated
Expert:
There are people who see definite images and fall under all sorts of impressions, like music, that you see as all different colors streaming toward you as the symphony plays. People like that.
Filomen:
Whoaaah…Lens. Can you zoom out? Whooahh… Now I can really feel it. You?
Friend:
yeah
Filomen:
I really understand completely nothing of this (talking about the cd player I think)
Friend:
Ok, push here, underneath
Filomen:
Everything is all stripes. Lets just do this for 6 hours. (pointing at the wallpaper) These things, they’re becoming longer, dododododohahahah, this one…
Expert:
The primary effect of LSD, as it has become known to me from the literature…but also a bit from the experience of myself and those around me, is that your attention goes away a bit from your surroundings. You are no longer looking at that pretty portrait or at that nice painting, instead you are exceedingly focused on the impressions that come from your self. These impressions can certainly be influenced by those things on the outside.
Filomen:
I went to look at myself in the mirror, and I saw that my face went like this (squishes his face)
Expert:
Hallucinations are thus; things seen, felt and heard which there is no reason for. They are not there, you yourself create them out of your own consciousness.
Filomen:
It is pretty well scary in the mirror.

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[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by Alfa

The new series have started:
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/bnn/spuitenenslikken/bb.20060227.asf explosion & show how to swallow stuffed ballons for smuglin purposes

I'm working on this. Please don't tell me this program is 45 minutes long, I'm only at minute 14 in over an hour.

It is such a bitch to translate because it's a streaming asp file and the server cuts it every minute or so. Then I have to restart and fast-forward.

[show host]Welcome back to our new season of Shooting & Swallowing. In this episode Filemon will test Explosion, Bassie & Adriaan were caught during carnaval and we also have the first part of our series “in the gutter”, where we follow addicts in their battle to stop using and finally: sex in 2006

00.40
[Black girl] Here in South-East, girls are actually being auctioned. You can have for a while for just € 50

00.49
[host]and tonight we have actress Tonya Koblinko [sp] and Dutch drug researcher Tom Mabbe. But first we have Sander Lantinga [sp] who takes “Shooting & Swallowing” very literally. He is about to swallow boletas, under the professional guidance of rapper Negativ [sp]

01.24
[other host]Negativ, before we start experimenting, you’re starring in a Dutch movie premiering 23 March. What’s the story?
[Negativ]I’m Spike, who is sent from Suriname to the Netherlands to study, but he falls in love with a girl and thinks she won’t like him if he’s poor. Next, he’s kicked out of school and goes stealing, abusing drugs, and he ends up in a Surinamian prison.
[other host]Is this realistic?
[Neg]yes
[Oth host] Let’s take a look

1.57 [movie fragment]
-Ten more
-I can’t
-What do you mean you can’t?
-You better start swallowing
-My stomach hurts
- You’re not on holiday so stop bitching.
-WTF are you doing?

2.38
[host]that looked scary? Did you really swallow?
[neg]of course not
Host] but you do know people who do? Where did they end up?
Neg]Some good, some bad
Host]Why do people swallow these?
Neg]They see it as a way to make money and make a better life

Host]I heard real coke was used during the shoot of this movie?
Neg]It really was washing powder. There was this beatboxing kid with a mic and he was probably the one who thought it was real. So he took some into the toilet, but he still had the mic on, so the sound guy heard this huge snort and then wretching. The guy came running out with a bloody nose
Host] a cleaned nose nontheless. Can you imagine people swallow a hundred boletas?
Neg]I can’t but I know it happens.
Host] I think you have to be either crazy or desperate. In any case, I’m about to swallow one, and you’re going to help me. Not with coke and condoms, but milk powder and sandwich bags. Let’s get to work.

4.09
[host]Milk powder can’t excite us, coke probably can, but Filemon already tested it last season. Tonight he’ll test what was first known as “legal ecstacy”, Explosion.

4.25
Fil] Tonight I’m testing methylone, known as explosion. It’s a so-called research chemical, which means we don’t know much about it because it hasn’t been researched thoroughly yet. A couple of months ago, it was a hype that became illegal. Before, you could still get it in smart shops. Not as a drug, but as a room odorizer

04.54 Tom Compaijen, Jellinek, Unity
Methylone was probably developed as a legal backdoor, to sell it as a room odorizer. The label said ‘Do not swallow…but if you do, not more than one tube’. So they knew what they were doing. It was a clever way to sell a mind-altering substance.

05.27 Fil] But before I try I’m getting a check-up.
Hi. What can I expect?
Med guy] Higher blood pressure, higher heartbeat, overheating. Be careful.
Blood pressure 140/180, pulse 90, which we expect to rise. We assume that right now everything is still within parameters.
Fil]So they’re going up?
Med]yes. You’re ok now, be careful since you don’t know what you’re using.

6.10] Text reads “Filemon = Approved”
Fil] but I am ready to use

06.18 Fil] Taking drugs alone is not much fun, so here I have Sander

Text reads Sander = also approved

Sander 06.26] I don’t have that much experience… joints, ecstacy.
Fil]But this is similar to ecstacy. This is liquid, says here it’s a room odorizer, but you put it in your mouth. We don’t know much about this, so we’ll start with just half a tube.
Sand]It’s brown
06.54Fil]Brownish-yellowish, gold liquid. Smells like vanilla! Good huh?
07.01] Bottom’s up!

[text reads: never mix methylone with alcohol or other drugs and never take more than one tube or 180 mg.]
07.09 Fil] Yuk
Sander] Smells like vanilla, tastes like vinyl.
Fil]Rancid
San]Like chugging a bottle of 36 year old gin
Fil] Because of its liquid nature, it starts working really fast. Let’s get inside.
San] Yeah, I’m cold.

7.45] Text reads: Methylone, ie explosion, has been scheduled since April 2005, punishment for possession and dealing: 6 years!

7. 56 Fil] half an hour after dropping, I’m already agitated
San] I don’t feel much yet
Fil] We want to have the full experience, so we’re taking the rest.
A think you notice on drugs is that heat feels really good. If you’re in a warmer space, you feel it coming all over your body, and then up to your crown. I love this city!

08.31] Guy from Jellinek
There was a rumour that explosion is like your first ecstasy again, and people thought since it came from the smart shop it wasn’t dangerous, but now I met people who used to do pills and said it was bad for them. Now they take explosion, and say it’s not bad for them. This is a wrong assumption.

9.21] Sander] I don’t feel much. A tingling and goose bumps in my hair, and I feel like it’s going to kick in any second. But five hours into it the feeling was gone. At least ecstasy gets you in the mood to party. Now I’m just nervous.

Fil] I on the other hand did experience the happy blissful feeling, but only for 15 minutes. Then it was gone.
The price/quality ratio is not as good as ecstasy. Heh… price/quality ratio

[10.00 cut back to host]
Ecstacy makes you feel down the next day. Same thing with explosion?
Fil] Nope. I almost forgot I even used anything.
Host] No euphoria either?
Fil] No. Just oing steady
Actress Victoria Whatever] I don’t think it’s right in the first place that people have to take substances to feel happy.
Host] but you have a tough looking football player boyfriend
Actress] Indeed, they can’t take drugs, so I wouldn’t feel good doing them alone at home. The only joints I’ll be smoking will be at the end of the football season.
Host] But you do know a lot about explosion since you researched it?
11.10 Ton Nabben, researcher] Popularity peaked last year. There were many internet discussions about it.
Host] This is a cyber-drug?
Ton] this was really a cyber-hype.
We were tipped on a new hype. We started reading a popular Dutch website for the younger generation. We saw lots of praise for methylone. Some said “ explosion hardly did anything, ecstasy is better”. It doesn’t have the magic of E. The experiences described allowed us to predict if this drug would be the next thing. This has a lot to do with availability. It became scheduled and the availability declined, slowing the hype.
Host] This also has to do with Dutch radio show host Giel Beelen, who took it live on air, causing lots of media attention. Then it was gone. But what if it hadn’t been scheduled?
12.43 Ton] without a doubt there will be people who like the feeling, but motives can differ a lot. Experienced ecstasy users may not like it, but there’s also people who don’t like ecstasy and who like methylone.
Fil] Pills are easier to hide.
Host] but will it make a come-back. Now it’s just as illegal as xtc.
Ton] Depends on the availability. The one producer we knew of has probably retired by now.
Host] Is methylone also in xtc?
Ton]No, the molecular structure is as good as identical to that of xtc, but it has an extra oxygen atom. Doesn’t seem much, but the experiences differ.
Host] can’t other similar drugs be developed?
Ton] Don’t forget that 15 years ago, ecstasy was, for a whole generation, _the_ new drug. The time frame was very different. Drug culture has matured.
Fil]Can’t they just keep altering some molecules to create new drugs?
Ton] so it becomes legal again?
I’m fascinated by the marketing. It starts with a number of web sites. People say, you have to try this, go to the smart shop before it’s too late. Then the smart shops get flooded. And just before it gets really fun, it’s illegal again.
15.09 Host] What will be the next thing
Ton] People talk about drugs on the net. Whether it’s ketamine, coke, .. There are many drugs, but the market is very small, and xtc remains

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Thank you ever so kindly for the efforts in translation. I wish I could find this series on DVD.
	Thanks for all the hard work on making those subtitles.

[Alfa]

Anyone else up for this. I have contact with the producer about this. These translations may become official.

Note that these shows are excellent material to show people what these drugs are about. I'd really really like the shroom shows subs.

[FrankenChrist]

Contact with the producer... April Fool's?
No, seriously?

[Alfa]

Yes seriously.

[FrankenChrist]

I'm currently translating that shroom episode you wanted so bad.

I may study translating, but I never did subtitling before, so bare with me.

[FrankenChrist]

Okay, this is somwhat sloppy. The time markers are random.
You Dutch talk too fast. :P

Good evening everyone, and welcome to the fifth episode of our show, where we answer all your questions about sex and love.
Tonight’s guests are [Denvis Wankalot???], lead singer of the Spades.
[Katarina Justic], actress
and [Erwin Reemster], good to see you
Thanks
Maybe you’ve heard of a popular Dutch song [Soms gaat het mis ]
Yeah sometimes it does go wrong.
You are working on a new album?
Yes I’m working on a new single.
Good to have you here.
Over to today’s topics
After alcohol, coke, xtc and ghb Filemon will try shrooms!, theYMI boys explore the S&M subculture and we’ll see which religion goes best with a good sex life.
How do you combine your homosexuality with your priesthood?
Sorry but I’m out.
[Time: 1.49] Was it anything I said?
So far for the Catholic Church. Hi, [Thys], next time I’ll knock
Nah that’s alright
Hi there
Sofie, I’m [Sonja??]
Making the bed I see?
[time: 2.O7]Bed has been made
Last week’s attempt with a corpulent lady didn’t work out?
No, she kind of sagged through the bed.
Which didn’t excite you, but tonight will be better, right?
[2.23]I’m getting an erotic massage
What is it about?
A relaxing, head to toe tickling, with a little dessert at the end.
What’s the dessert?
You’ll have to see.
We’ll get back to you, have fun

What do you think of this week’s proposition: everybody should have a trip. Tell us at [phone number] or go to BNN.nl, click through to Spuiten & Slikken
And the question is should everybody trip?
[3.23]Sure
Sure?
Yes.
..and in your latest movie you’re a Muslim girl who got her breasts enlarged?
Right.
Which is forbidden?
I don’t know, but she’s not so strict.
She does think about it.
So for Muslims body modification is wrong because it belongs to Allah? You took your role seriously apparently? [actresses’ breasts are enlarged in real life]
[5.15]I don’t like enlarged breasts, it’s not natural. The proportions should be right.
You blow [ = smoke weed], right?
Yes, I do
[Raymzter, rapper]
It’s not the only thing I still do. Ghb is not for me. Shrooms had no effect on me.
As an artist, do you use something for inspiration?
Yes, hash.
It doesn’t suck when you look at it afterwards?
Nah, a lot of artists have smoked, even Shakespeare, that has to mean something
[6.24]You’re not very religious?
Indeed, I’m not
We still have sex and drugs to talk about.
[nods affirmatively]

Over to Filemon, who tried shrooms for the first time.

Today I will try shrooms. I’m a bit scared since it will be my first real trip. The important thing is to go with the flow.
[7.00] You shouldn’t do it alone, which is why I’m seeking help from a professional. This looks like the place [We see tent in field]
Why did we meet in this tipi in the forest?
[Arno Adelaars, mushroom expert]
[7.18]Well, nature can simply be really beautiful to see.
What are you looking for ?
A simple, fun trip.
Half a portion should suffice.
[Hans Plomp, drug researcher]
First alerts should come at around 15 minutes, after half an hour it gets stronger
[7.45]You will notice your senses become sharper.
Your vision will be improved, colours look nicer, hearing and smelling become more acute,
Fascinating environments, like nature, will leave you breathless.
Making love will be fantastic. Your partner’s [asscrack] might become paradise for you
[laughter from audience]
[shot of shrooms]
[8.16]
What’s this?
Hawaiian
Philosopher’s Stone
And Mexicans, which is what we will try today.

The taste is something …unusual.

[A portion of shrooms costs € 12,50 at the smart shop.
The active components are psylocine and psylocibine [spelling?]
Tastes like eadible mushrooms, but stronger and dirtier.
[8.51]I’m starting to feel my hands, weightless…
I feel myself slipping away.
Relaxing.

Surrender.

[Hans Plomp]
[9.24]You will have more chance at a bad trip if you’re in a bad mood. If you feel depressed, anxious, helpless, …
You should only take these mushrooms to make you feel better if you’re already feeling good.
I wouldn’t take shrooms to solve problems.
[Mushrooms can give you beautiful experiences, but also frightening ones
In 2001, 2,6 % of the Dutch populations said to have tried shrooms]
I’m getting a bit flushed[warm], somewhat introverted
[9.58]
[after 40 minutes]
I’m feeling very loose and flexible. I could watch the grass for hours. I’m not usually a fetishist though. It’s like they give off light.
Everything is wavy.
Very relaxed.
[don’t go looking for shrooms in the forest. Some mushrooms are very dangerous]
[after 60 minutes]
[10.46]
I see all this…whoah
[laughter from audience]
Circular, floral patterns…with the music
Very nice to look at your hands.
You see all the lines, see the blood flowing. I’m feeling really flaccid.
You see the grass “bzzzhhhh”
Then this sort of fume
[11.43]
Everything starts moving, bigger, smaller,
Then it becomes clear, then this fume, then it lessens a bit

[Hans Plomp]
When you take these shrooms you get another look on yourself and the world. Like you’re looking at yourself. You will see through yourself.
You’ll also notice your tricks, all these things.
It’s not only about seeing the world differently, but also seeing yourself differently, so you can improve yourself
[12.30]
[back in tent, 1,5 hours into trip]
Everything is so wavy. The forest is totally wavy. Now I understand those trippy paintings.
Curly..oh it’s gone.
I’m going to read a bit
Whoa…
Hehehe
I’m usually dyslexic
Yo
What do you see?
Nothing! I can’t do anything with this.
What was the question again?
[after 2 hours]
I’m getting philosophical

I feel really grateful. Mushrooms are such a gift.

I think I could be a good teacher. Love is seeing what another person can be. I think that’s so beautiful. It may also be about believing in God, about finding a balance
[14.17]
3,5 hours later now, and now I’m thinking,
Okay, this has been fun, back to reality.
I was somewhat anxious in the beginning, thinking about bad trips. Then I just forgot about them. It was really intense, beyond my expectations. Thank you so very much.
You’re welcome
Should we go for a snack, because I haven’t eaten anything yet.
Something healthy?
Yeah a salad or something?

[back to studio]

If you also had an enlightening experience, let us know at [phone number] or BNN.nl
Fil[emon]. You were pretty stoned?

Totally. I was far gone.
Something you want to add?
The thing I’d like to add is seeing things, laughing. But then you start thinking. Why do I do the work that I do, why do I have the girlfriend that I have?
You stop thinking about everyday things, and really zoom into the core. Very interesting.
[15.35]
So you were thinking about all these things, but did this make you happy?

Actually, I was.
Happy with your job too?
Well…[laughter from audience]

“Why am I tripping in this tent”

There was a moment where I thought I should stop what I’m doing and go help mentally impaired people or become a teacher. They had to keep me away from the phone or I would have quit that instant.
You were planning on doing that?
[16.05]
I’m never going to [telefoonstrippen – NOTE: I didn’t understand this, reference to an earlier episode???]

[16.10]You’ve done it as well?
From time to time.
Don’t you believe it can be addictive?
No, definitely not. It is so strong that you think “okay, I’m good for another half a year or so”
That is actually the good part. You won’t be anxious to do it again the next day.

Why not?

Well it is beautiful and all that, but
[16.38]you think, okay this has been enough.
[Denvis Wankalot, lead singer of the Spades, name appears on screen]
I’ve never seen people totally lose themselves in it. After such an experience, you don’t feel the need to do it again the next day.
So it’s different from coke, with people thinking they are the shit or
Xtc with people getting all lovey? Then, are those experiences more superficial than mushroom trips?
No, I [over to Filemon] don’t think so
[17.03]
It’s not about what is fake or not, it’s about your ego, which will become incredibly inflated [NOTE: on coke], but on shrooms your ego will shrink. It depends on your likings, I guess.

Do you agree with that? That your ego becomes so small?
[17.16]
Yes, you do get all introspective, thinking about yourself?

But do you do something with that? So you had the experience, but does it change you for the better?

Yes, I did think about things.

But did you make changes to your life? You almost quit your job?

Well, you start realising why you do the things that you do.

Okay

[18.02]
So that’s a positive thing.

It’s a fun drug, but things can go wrong, can they?

Bad trips? I think that’s something you get more with Lsd, because mushrooms feel so natural.

Psylocibine…
Psylocibine is poisonous for children, so I take it it’s not good for adults either?

[18.26]
Well it is poisonous for everyone, that’s why it works in that way. You are taking a poison, but
-nicotine is also poisonous

But in one way or another it feels more natural. More natural than chemical drugs anyway. It’s right what they said, though. Setting is important. It’s not good to do it in a club. You could end up in an 8 hour bad trip. [NOTE: original is more nuanced. It went too fast]

If you’re feeling alright, do it with people you know, who’ve done it before, then nothing should go wrong.
[19.14] But if you’re already psychotic or something, or your girlfriend just broke up with you, or your mother is angry with you, then you shouldn’t do it.

So how do you notice that it’s better than a chemical drug?
[19.33] [note: missed something here]
Coke and xtc can make you feel chemical,


And joints don’t give you that problem?

Here is Wendy on the phone

Hi

I would like to say that I don’t agree with the proposition that everyone should trip, because
[19.54] I saw someone getting into a real bad trip. She thought she was being chased, very scary,

-and that was because of shrooms?

It was her boyfriend. He was having fun, but she

So what did she feel when she did it?

It felt normal at first, fun and trippy...

Was there a pressure of time? Did she have an appointment? Was that the cause of the bad trip?

[20.39]No, she took them at 9 pm and had the whole night for herself, to recover. About three hours into it she wanted all the curtains closed. She was seeing people chasing her, she wanted to call emergency services.

Has she had flashbacks?

[21.02]
No, 3 or 4 hours later she had recovered, but everyone was very worried.
I just wanted to say that you can also have a good time with just a glass of wine. It’s not necessarily a reason to trip.

I know you saw Filemon drunk, I can tell you that can also end in tragedy.

But I agree with you. You all said that you won’t get a bad trip if you’re feeling good?

[actress]But I believe sometimes you just don’t know if you’re feeling alright. You do realise for example when you’re psychotic..

[singer] [says something]

Host: so people who want to keep in control at all times better stay away from shrooms?

You don’t necessarily have to trip.

Fil: Even if you start feeling bad, you have to let it happen. Don’t try to stop it. It’ll get worse and you’ll panic. Then you might start closing the curtains. Of course, it can always go wrong, but you should always remember that it only lasts a couple of hours. Then it’ll be over again. You’ll be all healthy and feeling good.

Rapper: some people think they’ll trip for half an hour and then feel good.

She [friend from woman in phonecall] did it because her boyfriend did it. She didn’t need to do it, though.
Actress: I never felt that much appeal. I’d like to stay in control, so I think twice before doing something, like that time I almost drank shroom tea.


Over to sex and religion.

[program goes on, but I'm fucking tired ]

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Super!!!!!!!!! Please post the rest when possible.

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The rest of this episode, and/or all episodes?

Could you list the ones you would like first, and tell whether I can focus just on the parts about subtstances?

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The rest of this episode please. All episodes would be great. I'll take everyting your willing to translate. I'll post the episodes I want most later. The episode with the simple tutorial to make ice-o-lator hash is one I would like most.