GBL too strong!!

[oggy]

This post was edited because it:

A) Was written in the first person - Self-Incrimination.

B) Was an awful story.

C) This thread now works incredibly well as an example of the need *not* to ingest GBL and, as a bonus, informs people of the dangers of misusing ethanol with, pretty much everything.

Reputation Comments on this post:

such an irrisponisble post.

[Freak_]

the best way to take it is to convert it to GHB. please search the forum.

[oggy]

I know how to do that its easy but its also illegal to have GHB so it is safer as a glue debonder

[Freak_]

Yes, i didn't saw this major aspect. Should be the best for legality safety.

GHB is also safer for your organs i forgot.

Most GBL is mixed up with water when you get it.

[ATM]

Originally Posted by Freak_

Yes, i didn't saw this major aspect. Should be the best for legality safety.

GHB is also safer for your organs i forgot.

Most GBL is mixed up with water when you get it.

GBL and water are not very soluble.

[estel]

SWIM find that the best way to take gbl is just to put it in some "000" size gelatin capsules . The gbl stays in them for ages and you don't get any of the nasty taste, allegedly.

Why is gbl more toxic than ghb? SWIM has always found it a clean buzz himself. I haven't researched this before because erowid doesn't have much info on this, so i would appreciate a reply.


Estel

[oggy]

SWIM doesn't like to use it as a sleep aid as he just wakes up 3-4 hours later.


How long does a GBL hangover last? SWIM's head feels all stuffed up and his body is in pain. The stuffy head feeling is the worst how can he make it go away!! Its probably just a mixture of all the drink, coke, gbl and dancing that took place on friday night/sat morning.


He felt so good as well on friday, its always the same with him, by friday he'll be on top of the world again, hehe!


Hmmm maybe SWIM might make his GBL into GHB for his health, he has never had a hangover from GHB. In fact GHB is better for sleep and doesn't mess you up as much. Damn if only I was SWIM

[Tony Blair]

Well on friday night it was my mates 21st so we went out to clubs on a
coke and drink binge. After the club we headed back to my house for
more drinks and lines and sat up all night waiting for my delivery of
gbl. It must have come about 10am so me and my mate took 1.5ml each

Dude! Drinking + GBL == The Lose!



Had any more pleasent experiences when you haven't been trollied since?
(I know you might not have 'felt' that trollied as often coke tends to
sober people up, but drinking all night and through till when the posty
turns up, and then GBL is not cool!)

[oggy]

SWIM finds drink andGHB a great mix, GBLis not so good. GBL is acidic and so is alcohol witch makes it such a bad mix and gives you mega hangovers.

[DJ-666]

GBL is not toxic(it isnt toxic at all) like other things but its much much harder for your stomach and liver than GHB. So better convert it although it tastes like hell - so damned salty that you maybe regurgitate a little

[Pinkavvy]

Drinking with coke is dumb and DANGEROUS. you know what's more dumb and dangerous? mixing gbl/ghb/14b with ALCOHOL.

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Old post mate, but well deserved after this thread got transformed into advice instead of a "hero" story.

[mixmike007]

ghb make same effect as mdma ?

[Pinkavvy]

Originally Posted by mixmike007

ghb make same effect as mdma ?

no. absolute opposite effect.

[kimotag]

Originally Posted by mixmike007

ghb make same effect as mdma ?

Not really , more like a mix of mdma and drink or some other depressent drug or at least thats how swim experiences it. He finds gbl more buzzy and euphoric but does'nt indulge very often!

kimotag added 7 Minutes and 2 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by ironchemist

Pink is absolutelty right. GHB and alcohol are both cns depressants and mixing the two will cause shallow breathing followed by coma. The most lethal combination however would be GHB and xanax as the two most potent depressants have taken the lives of more than one of swims acquintances.
Consider the fact that the right dosage of G can put you unconscience within minutes. Mixing that with any other depressant is foolish to say the least.

I agree with this and other posts. Most of us know those who have taken just that bit more G and have fallen asleep. mix that with alchohol and you are getting into dangerous territory. Perhaps some people need a scare or two before wising up. Waking up in a strange place with several hours missing having pissed/shat yourself should do it for most people who want to keep dancing on the edge!

[oggy]

Originally Posted by Pinkavvy

Drinking with coke is dumb and DANGEROUS. you know what's more dumb and dangerous? mixing gbl/ghb/14b with ALCOHOL.

What the hell? Taking any drug could be dumb a dangerous. Nothing wrong with mixing drugs man.

[nanobrain]

Originally Posted by Pinkavvy

Drinking with coke is dumb and DANGEROUS. you know what's more dumb and dangerous? mixing gbl/ghb/14b with ALCOHOL.

get that through your thick heads please kids.

[Pinkavvy]

Originally Posted by oggy

What the hell? Taking any drug could be dumb a dangerous. Nothing wrong with mixing drugs man.

oggy- you're right, there's nothing wrong with mixing many drugs. however you do need to do some research. mixing cocaine and alcohol is TOXIC. it will cause your liver to make a substance called cocaethylene, which will stay in your body for several days and causes considerable damage to your cardiovascular system and liver. and the reason GHB and GBL and 14B is no longer accepted even at illegal raves, where other drugs are accepted, is because stupid people mix it with alcohol and slip into coma/death.

Wait, I'm gonna be a dick and elaborate a bit more, and say you're not right at all. 'taking any drug could be dumb and dangerous' is simply not true. there are MANY drugs thta if done properly are 100% safe and not dumb at all. :P for example, marijuana, cocaine in moderation, mdma in moderation, lsd if not combined with other things, mushrooms if not on MAOIs, and the list goes on and on. The dumb and dangerous part is mixing large ammounts of alcohol with cocaine, which is horrible for you, and then while the alcohol is still in your system taking some GHB ... which is what caused GHB to be known as a 'date rape drug' and could cause death.

In the future you will have a much better time with these substances seperately, I assure you of that.

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	Good harm-reduction advice.
	Excellent information

[ironchemist]

Pink is absolutelty right. GHB and alcohol are both cns depressants and mixing the two will cause shallow breathing followed by coma. The most lethal combination however would be GHB and xanax as the two most potent depressants have taken the lives of more than one of swims acquintances.
Consider the fact that the right dosage of G can put you unconscience within minutes. Mixing that with any other depressant is foolish to say the least.

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good show

[oggy]

Wow swim never new that about cocaine. Thanks for the info. Swim doesn't like coke then as he can't take it on its own he needs a drink to put him in the right mood and to take the paranoia away. Swim really has to have a drink before taking most drugs as it gives him the confidence to take them.

Is GHB and coke ok to mix? GHB has an alcohol effect so could he use that before he has some coke?

[anjin]

Cocaine and GHB is SWIM's favorite combination. Those two are just made for one another

For SWIM, G takes the edge of coke.

[SWIH]

Originally Posted by anjin

Cocaine and GHB is SWIM's favorite combination. Those two are just made for one another

For SWIM, G takes the edge of coke.

they go together like tea and cakes! ghb and mdma is a good un too (swim says)

SWIH added 4 Minutes and 26 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by kimotag

Waking up in a strange place with several hours missing having pissed/shat yourself should do it for most people who want to keep dancing on the edge!

if swiy has never tottered home 10am on a saturday morning in piss-soaked jeans with vomit smeared across swiyour face, then swiy have not found your ghb limit... but probably have a shred or to of dignity left.

[120mg]

One problem with mixing speed/coke with GHB is that you can take silly amounts of G and not pass out.

To the degree that you should be unconcious but the stimulants keep you on your feet.

We call it 'Auto-pilot-mode' over here.

It can get psychotic.

It is SWIM's favourite mix though :P

[oggy]

Dont be a knob end. TAKING ANY DRUGS IS STUPID!! Oh lets all be sensible and take one little toke or pint at one time, oh no sorry can't I've had a coffee today.

[barafundle]

Originally Posted by oggy

Dont be a knob end. TAKING ANY DRUGS IS STUPID!! Oh lets all be sensible and take one little toke or pint at one time, oh no sorry can't I've had a coffee today.

Please be a little less ignorant in your posts mate, it doesnt make you sound good and its worrying that other swimmers may agree with you. Im sure your not like this really but please listen to what people say sometimes, they are trying to help you reduce potential,serious harm. Taking any drugs isnt "stupid" but they all carry risks and mixing some makes that risk all the worse. E.G.Coke and cannabis,fine. Heroin (and please dont say the SWIMMER oggy dont take heroin,im not saying he does) and benzodiazapines-deadly.SWIM had his best mate die from doing that. Please think about how and what you write,some people are sooo easily influenced and im sure you wouldnt want to have someone die.And thats how dangerouse mixing drink and GBL/H can be.
Please listen some times and stay safe mate. SWIMMERS can still have great fun being safe

[Nagognog2]

Me thinks a few of these geniuses will continue to roll the dice no matter how clear the evidence is that mixing GHB and cousins is tantamount to playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic pistol. I guess they can take it up with Darwin himself soon enough.