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Old 23-11-2005, 09:24
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So here is the thing. I'm looking for a spiritualy reconstructive drug. Now I've doneAlcohol, Salvia, Nutmeg, Mushrooms, MDMA, Weed, LSA, Opium, all types of pillsand I'm sure I'm leaving some out. Anyways, I know mushrooms would be my first choice but seeing is how noneare available to me,I can't use them. All that is around is MDMA and LSD. As you can see I have never done acid before but I do know of its spiritual qualities. I also know of its ability to cause bad trips. I've done salvia alone and loved it...I've done mushrooms alone and loved it every time so I don't think LSD would be a problem. So here is my question...Should I use LSD for spiritual reconstructionor should I just play it safe and use MDMA to have a great night and memories to look back on, hoping that it will tide me over till mushrooms arive?


I'm leaning more towards LSD cause I love hallucinogens but still I wonder...





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Old 23-11-2005, 09:59
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If swim was you, they would use LSD... But if your worried about tripping bad, then maybe you should stick with MDMA.
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Old 23-11-2005, 15:43
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I would go with LSD. If you're comfortable handling shrooms, you should have a good enough idea of how well you could handle acid as long as you're careful.

Mescaline cactus might be another option if you can find it. Never done it myself but as far as spiritual construction goes, some people say it's the ultimate drug.
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Old 23-11-2005, 23:11
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Yeah, as far as mescaline goes, I've never seen it a day in my life. I have read where it is the best spiritual drug around but like I said I've never seen it sadly.
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Old 23-11-2005, 23:20
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i would do lsd if you have access and it is good. mescaline is very
hard to come by, in fact its not really sold at all, but san pedro
cactus is readily available through the internet if not at a local
plant nursery and an extraction is easy enough to do. if you have had
good trips alone then you can manage psychedelics and lsd should not be
a problem. it is no more likely to cause a bad trip than magic
mushrooms. i would go for mescaline or lsd. happy tripping.
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Old 24-11-2005, 07:25
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So its no more likely to causea bad trip than mushrooms? I figured with it changing the brains chemistry and such that it might be more likely but I do love my mushrooms. LSD it is.... )
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Hey just to be safe why not candy-flip? Use MDMA and LSD at the same time its a great combo and personally i've never known anyone to have a bad trip with this combonation. Just a thought
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Spirituality is a search, a quest. I think personnaly that there is no drug that will "reconstuct you spirituality" if this experience is not considered as part of a global quest of oneself, of truth.

Looking for oneself, looking for god is "choosing to take the path of the warrior", spiritual warrior of course, and in order to become a warrior, you need courage, not drugs.... Because YOU are your worst enemy and you must fight against YOURSELF.

There is no drug that will replace curiosity and hope, that are I think, two of the most important qualities when you choose, or Life chooses for you, to take the path of self-development and spirituality.

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Psychedelics "reconstruct" the mind (if you allow them to).


Drugs can help re-work your Spiritual circuitry, but you (also) need to get involved. Enlightenment doesn't come in a pill. You could meditate, pray, take yoga, attend a spiritual service, take nature walks ... something spiritual. This will help you figure out what kind of spirituality you want to obtain. Once you know what you want, it is actually possible to get it.


The thing about spirituality is: Everyone has his own idea of whatspirituality means. So, when you take your drug, ask your mind to change (to think like you would like it to). If you're lucky, your mind will listen to you, and change its ways.


In fact, it's better to begin the physical spiritual work, and then take a psychedelic to reinforce (and amplify) its effect. My nick-name for LSD is: The Great Amplifier.
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I was once dragged to a group of "Enlightened Christians" by a young lady I was trying to remove from my life. I was surrounded by about 20 of the disciples in a house - where I quickly checked my escape routes. They proceeded to try to "enlighten" me by jabbering in "tongues", going "blagdigoowaaajoodooowaalaaa..." et al. When I confessed that I had no clue what these magical intonations meant, the leader of the enlightened" did thusly impart my lacking wisdom: "Jesus has just told you that a true believer would buy a new Ford automobile. Ford is the car Jesus has chosen!"


As I honestly said that I was not interested in becoming one of their flock, they would not let me have a doughnut. I departed unscathed.


Enlightenment can be a curious creature. I was at least enlightened enough to tell the young lady who had dragged me to this promotion for Ford Motors that I never wanted to hear from her again. Blissfully, I have not.
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LSD is what I would think meets your descrioption.

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I was at least enlightened enough to tell the young lady who had dragged me to this promotion for Ford Motors that I never wanted to hear from her again.
LOL

A "Ford-hater"!
I knew it.

You'll burn in hell for this.
Repent now and buy an F-150 with the firm knowledge that Lee Iacocca is the true anti-christ.
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Okay, so you mean that "enlightenment" doesn't protect us against paranoia, psychosis and sectarianism.

I agree with you. But if so, how can we distinguish "enlightenment" and "psychosis" ?
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actually, i know it kinda doesn't seem to fit in this thread, but if you're looking to re-prioritize your life, to weed out the bad and to foster new and 'better' habits and the like. Dextromethorphan was used widely for this very purpose. somewhere between the I'm-tripping-my-brain-out stage and stage where you're stuck in your own body... somewhere in there time goes by SO SLOWLY that you're stuck in freeze-frame.


people did this all the time before any of the cough pill manufacturers realized that DXM was abuseable... they would take what seemed like their own 1 week condensed into 8-10 hours.


and they would use that 'week' to introspect and redesign lifestyle strategies and actually change coping mechanisms, etc. i know because i was one of them. it worked.


just a suggestion. i haven't tried other dissociatives (pcp, k) but I assume they're probably all similar.
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actually, i know it kinda doesn't seem to fit in this thread, but if you're looking to re-prioritize your life, to weed out the bad and to foster new and 'better' habits and the like. Dextromethorphan was used widely for this very purpose. somewhere between the I'm-tripping-my-brain-out stage and stage where you're stuck in your own body... somewhere in there time goes by SO SLOWLY that you're stuck in freeze-frame.


people did this all the time before any of the cough pill manufacturers realized that DXM was abuseable... they would take what seemed like their own 1 week condensed into 8-10 hours.


and they would use that 'week' to introspect and redesign lifestyle strategies and actually change coping mechanisms, etc. i know because i was one of them. it worked.


just a suggestion. i haven't tried other dissociatives (pcp, k) but I assume they're probably all similar.
Actually a long time ago SWIM and a buddy of his did some DXM. They went to a coffee shop and about an hour into it SWIM's buddy started to feel sick and THOUGHT he was going to die. His buddy knew that was not really going to happen but it would not leave his mind. So SWIM took his buddy to a local lake and parked out there and talked for a bit. We talked for a good 5 hours about life and really worked threw some problems each of us were having. This never really came back to me till you mentioned something.
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