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Old 08-07-2010, 04:24
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Good idea to take multiple hits for a first time LSD Experience?

SWIM is taking acid for the first and only time this weekend.

Said person would like experience something they never have. This is their one and only chance to experience LSD and they are very excited for it. They have access to 4 tabs. How wise would dropping all 4 for a first trip be?

Dropping again after this date is not an option.

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Re: Good idea?

no, no, no, no, no

Take 1, see how SWIY goes. Of course, its all relative to the strength of the tabs but doing a quadruple drop first time is not atall sensible. There is always a chance that SWIY has a bad trip (a small chance, depending on the situation), and a bad trip on 4 potentially strong trips is not a good thing and could well put him in hospital and have long term negative effects. If the acid is of any respectable quality, one will be more than enough, trust SWIM.

And as always, trip in a safe environment where SWIY feels totally comfortable and around people he knows and trusts and he should have a great experience.

Enjoy, but play safe dude
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:44
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Re: Good idea?

If the tabs are potent then 1 can already be overwhelming. SWIY can always take more, but once taken SWIY has to sit it out. Start low. Work SWIYs way up.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:50
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Re: Good idea?

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This is their one and only chance to experience LSD and they are very excited for it.
Why is that so? If they play their cards right, they may be reincarnated into another day where their being gets to try it again. I don't think its out of the question, certainly not impossible.

Take 1 first, cuz it might end up being DOI or DOB - if you've never seen Acid before and live in an area where they're often passed off for it. Then you'd be hella sorry you took em all, when you make it out of a 48 hour trip flying on magic dragons and fighting sorcerers made of light.

If the experience is too mild, then at least you'd have another possible where you could take all 3. That would produce a nice experience even if its relatively week, as for the average potency on the street (a street).

And then your statement would be wrong too (and all for the better!) because he could now try it twice, have two experiences, and something to compare.

EDIT: oh - and - Write an Experience Report on it. There's a first time for everything but there's also only one first time for anything - right? write a timeline, when the effects kick in, write them in detail, use creative thought, if you're someone who might want to analyze it some time later it serve a neat reference point from where to look. but then again others like to just stop and be the flowers once in a while, so you might end up putting down the pen and spending some time as a flower instead. its cool though you get to choose
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Re: Good idea?

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Why is that so? If they play their cards right, they may be reincarnated into another day where their being gets to try it again. I don't think its out of the question, certainly not impossible.

Take 1 first, cuz it might end up being DOI or DOB - if you've never seen Acid before and live in an area where they're often passed off for it. Then you'd be hella sorry you took em all, when you make it out of a 48 hour trip flying on magic dragons and fighting sorcerers made of light.

If the experience is too mild, then at least you'd have another possible where you could take all 3. That would produce a nice experience even if its relatively week, as for the average potency on the street (a street).

And then your statement would be wrong too (and all for the better!) because he could now try it twice, have two experiences, and something to compare.
SWIM really doesn't know how potent the tabs are; if it means anything, SWIM's friend took 4 tabs of the same batch these are from and had quite an intense trip. It did, however, last ~10-11 hours, so I don't think it would be DOI/DOB.

Not much longer after the time this trip would occur, SWIM would be deployed overseas for a sizable period of time. Usage after this trip isn't option for a very very long time, and at that point, said person doesn't have an interest in revisiting acid.

SWIM wants to make the most of this singular trip while he can;

If it means anything, the environment will be completely calm and controlled
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:10
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Re: Good idea?

Hhh I see, well my paradigm has been shifted. If your friend has assayed the same Acid from the same batch and the chemical composition is indeed verified and of what potency the blotters are layed... and taking into account your prior drug (hallucinogen) experience...? then I'd say you might be ready for it. It would be an intense trip but if the set and setting are all in check and there's other people to keep one safe then game on.

Adding some minor details really changes opinions ya know..
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:13
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Re: Good idea?

At the end of the day dude noone here is going to tell SWIY that its a good idea for a newbie to take 4 trips at once.

If he wishes to, go do it, its his decision, but members here will always answer such questions with caution and if SWIY is looking for vindication it aint gonna happen, its totally down to him.

As SWIM said the environment will play a big part and its good at least that he is choosing a calm, safe one.

Also, if these trips are on blotter paper then the strength of individual trips from the same batch can differ significantly depending on how well the LSD was administered, so he cant rely on his friends experience.

SWIM will repeat his advice. Take 1 and see how he goes, he can always drop another. At the end of the day SWIM personally would rather have a weak trip than one that leaves him sectioned.

As an example an old m8 of SWIMs took his first acid at a big music festival (black microdots - strong stuff). Fifteen minutes later he took a second because he though he should have come up by then. He spent 2 days hiding under a van thinking people where trying to find him and kill him and it left him with permanent panic attacks. LSD must be respected. It can be a wonderful experience and SWIM would much rather SWIY discovered that than he ended up in a bad situation.

If SWIY is hell bent on taking all 4, just make sure he reads up on LSD experiences here and is prepared for a strong trip. Knowledge is power
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:22
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Re: Good idea?

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At the end of the day dude noone here is going to tell SWIY that its a good idea for a newbie to take 4 trips at once.

If he wishes to, go do it, its his decision, but members here will always answer such questions with caution and if SWIY is looking for vindication it aint gonna happen, its totally down to him.

As SWIM said the environment will play a big part and its good at least that he is choosing a calm, safe one.

Also, if these trips are on blotter paper then the strength of individual trips from the same batch can differ significantly depending on how well the LSD was administered, so he cant rely on his friends experience.

SWIM will repeat his advice. Take 1 and see how he goes, he can always drop another. At the end of the day SWIM personally would rather have a weak trip than one that leaves him sectioned.

As an example an old m8 of SWIMs took his first acid at a big music festival (black microdots - strong stuff). Fifteen minutes later he took a second because he though he should have come up by then. He spent 2 days hiding under a van thinking people where trying to find him and kill him and it left him with permanent panic attacks. LSD must be respected. It can be a wonderful experience and SWIM would much rather SWIY discovered that than he ended up in a bad situation.

If SWIY is hell bent on taking all 4, just make sure he reads up on LSD experiences here and is prepared for a strong trip. Knowledge is power
SWIM doesn't have it in his mind that he will take all 4. Due to the overwhelming response advising against said action, second thoughts are definitely present. The last thing SWIM would want is a psychotic episode.

If it means anything, SWIM is very confident in his mental stability.

Would taking 3 tabs, as opposed to 4, be a major difference, both in experience and security levels?

How about 2?

Also, as I'm sure this will definitely affect the overall outcome, there is a very high probability of marijuana smokage at this event.

SWIM thanks you deeply for being patient and very helpful in providing him with your opinions and general information about this experience.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:26
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Re: Good idea?

Have you ever tried any hallucinogen > psychedelic > specific tryptamine?

EDIT: since i dont have time to follow up later : if yes, to the above, especially more to the latter, than one could compare the effects quite readily. but i imagine you might already have read about the similarities with them

if no, then no, one with no former experience with trypamines or 5-HT agonists might be unsuspectingly reactive to said potent agonist and, though rare, it is possible. definitelly try one, at max, first.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:30
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Re: Good idea?

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Have you ever tried any hallucinogen > psychedelic > specific tryptamine?
A very small amount of shrooms on one occasion; other than that, it's been exclusively marijuana
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Re: Good idea?

It doesn't matter what psychedelics have been taken before. NOTHING really prepares one for LSD.

For a first time 1 may be fine, or it may not... But in all conscience no-one is going to tell you that taking multiple hits is a good idea
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:51
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Re: Good idea?

LSD is so great that it is almost impossible for the normal person to handle. Not as powerful as some substances but you cannot die from LSD.

Start with the one hit and put the other 3 somewhere else for later use, besides your pocket as LSD can be absorbed threw skin.

See the logic? 1 hit this time, 3 hits for the next time, or more times after the first ride is over.

Do not get taken advantage of, ending up being the fool for the rest of the night thus entertaining everyone else.
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Re: Good idea?

Im guessing SWIY is really keen to avoid blowing his "one" chance at tripping by having a weak one. Something to bear in mind from SWIMs experience is what SWIY is actually wanting. Some of the most "fun" SWIM has had on acid have been on relatively weak acid, where one spends the night pissing themsleves with laughter at every little thing. A strong trip, on the other hand, can be a deeply spiritual and enlightening experience. So it kinda comes down to what SWIY wants out of the night.

If SWIY wants to take 2, go for it, but SWIM still maintains he can start with one and if after, say, 1 1/2 hours, he feels he wants more, take another.

SWIM has no wish to put a downer on things. In his experience a bad trip is pretty rare, he has had one in many trips, but it was the first time he took a strong one interestingly enough.

On the night, if SWIY does start to feel a bit freaked out, just remember, its only the acid and it will pass. He will be fine. It kinda helped SWIM that his first trip was a bad one because he knew what the worst to expect was for future ventures, and hes sure that was a big factor in him never having another. There where a couple of times on other trips where he started to get a little freaked, but just reminded himself "Dont worry dude, you're just tripping, you're fine, it will pass" and in a couple of minutes he was as right as rain.

As Richi said, would be good to do a trip report here aswell, SWIM for one is quite curious now as to what SWIY thinks of his first trip

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LSD is so great that it is almost impossible for the normal person to handle. Not as powerful as some substances but you cannot die from LSD
SWIM agrees with what else SWIY has to say but his first comment is a bit silly. Plenty of people "handle" LSD, and what is a "normal" person?

Also, agreed LSD itself cant kill, but it has mental health risks. Admittedly, the chances of that are very small from one time tripping, but nevertheless the mental health risks of substances are just as important as the physical.

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Re: Good idea?

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Im guessing SWIY is really keen to avoid blowing his "one" chance at tripping by having a weak one. Something to bear in mind from SWIMs experience is what SWIY is actually wanting. Some of the most "fun" SWIM has had on acid have been on relatively weak acid, where one spends the night pissing themsleves with laughter at every little thing. A strong trip, on the other hand, can be a deeply spiritual and enlightening experience. So it kinda comes down to what SWIY wants out of the night.

If SWIY wants to take 2, go for it, but SWIM still maintains he can start with one and if after, say, 1 1/2 hours, he feels he wants more, take another.

SWIM has no wish to put a downer on things. In his experience a bad trip is pretty rare, he has had one in many trips, but it was the first time he took a strong one interestingly enough.

On the night, if SWIY does start to feel a bit freaked out, just remember, its only the acid and it will pass. He will be fine. It kinda helped SWIM that his first trip was a bad one because he knew what the worst to expect was for future ventures, and hes sure that was a big factor in him never having another. There where a couple of times on other trips where he started to get a little freaked, but just reminded himself "Dont worry dude, you're just tripping, you're fine, it will pass" and in a couple of minutes he was as right as rain.

As Richi said, would be good to do a trip report here aswell, SWIM for one is quite curious now as to what SWIY thinks of his first trip
One thing I've been reading is that tolerance builds insanely quickly, so much so that if one were to take a tab, then a couple of hours later take another, the second would have little to no effect. I may be misinformed.

SWIM is currently on the fence between taking 2 and 3 tabs at the moment, leaning on 2

Whatever does end up happening, SWIM will definitely report back with their experience
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Re: Good idea?

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One thing I've been reading is that tolerance builds insanely quickly, so much so that if one were to take a tab, then a couple of hours later take another, the second would have little to no effect. I may be misinformed.

SWIM is currently on the fence between taking 2 and 3 tabs at the moment, leaning on 2

Whatever does end up happening, SWIM will definitely report back with their experience
Your friend should have a very trusted friend that knows what is going on to help in case of need, also to hold the extra tabs. Tell your friend do not keep them in their pocket! Sweat can be a saint or something else.

Also, establish a safe zone with your friend. Therefore when they find your friend, they can bring them back to safety in the safe zone. It could be anything from a blanket to a lawn chair, as long as it is known that nothing bad can happen there.
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One thing I've been reading is that tolerance builds insanely quickly, so much so that if one were to take a tab, then a couple of hours later take another, the second would have little to no effect. I may be misinformed
There may well be some reduction in potency if SWIY was to delay taking a second as opposed to taking them concurrently, but he will still sure as hell know hes taken another when he comes up on it, SWIM knows that from experience. Acid is a really potent substance.

Anyhoo, SWIMs fingers are hurting now from typing lol
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Re: Good idea?

It depends on if you have experience with other drugs, not necessarily psychedelics either. SWIMs first time, SWIM had 3 strong tabs and had a half good and half bad trip, you really dont notice pain so if something goes wrong you wont notice it. SWIM had frostbite and didnt notice until in physics class when everyone was like wtf.

If your brave and know the power of drugs and have people there to help you, go for it! If your not experienced in turning a bad situation around, start small and go with one, maybe 2.

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