Snorting - Snorting Adderall XR

[methyl]

SWIMused to crush up the beads found in Adderall XR into a fine powder and snort. As far asSWIM recalled, it was decent but not as good as taking it orally. This may be due to the fact that SWIM snorted low amounts...

Recently, a little bird told SWIM that crushing the Adderall XR beads and snorting doesn't do anything. Little bird said it renders the Adderall(crushed beads = powder) useless. SWIM needs some answers.

Anyone know of anything about this?

ALSO, PS(off Snortingtopic): SWIM knows that a side effect of Adderall is bronchodilation, and SWIM enjoys when he is able to breathe well.As the Adderall effects taper off, SWIM notices it's harder to breathe normally and has noticed his breathinghad becomeshallow.(SWIM also smokes weed and cigs daily)

SWIM has to take deep breaths to get the sufficient amount of oxygen in his lungs... or at least that's whathe says itfeels like. After about a day, this bronchoconstriction effect alleviates and breathing becomes normal. SWIM is wondering if the bronchodilation effect contributes to the "what-seems" bronchoconstriction after the Adderall run.

Any help appreciated! Thanks@!

[ethereal]

about snorting adderall XRs, swim got his hands on some of the 30mg half orange/half clear capsules.swim then poured out about 20mg/30mg, crushed up the beads into a fine powder until there was no chunksof the beads left.swim said the appearance of the powder was an orange-ish white color.

swim then snorted the 20mg line. between2-3 minutes after swim snorted the adderall powder, he began to feel the effects n had a minor drip. about 5 minutes later, swim noticed the reinforcing effects from snorting as it goes right passed the blood-brain barrier, into the brain. *rush*

fortunately, the pharm geln fillers in the adderall cannot pass the blood-brain barrier(or cannot pass through very easily), however, the amphetamine salts are able to pass easily. which is good... but! Unfortunately, all that filler n gunk stays in your nostrals which isn't healthy for the mucus membranes in your nose.

so all in all,swim did notice the effects from snorting the crushed addy XR beads, a (roughly)20mg line.but swim said he'd rather jus take the pill orally instead asthe effects last a lot longer.he also said that snorting gives a decent rush but didn't last nearly as long as takin' it orally.

PS: maybe these ppl that say snorting addy XR's won't do shit either prolly didn't break up the beads enuff (or at all?) -OR- took too small of a dose. but, who knows?

[Stan Mar5h]

Snorting XR indeed works, however it may not be considered as recreational as snorting regular Adderall. x (swim takes to long to write) has tried it. x feels that snorting Dexedrine is much better anyway, but would suggest crushing the XR VERY VERY fine, finer than regular adderall. If conditions permit, use a mortar and pestle. And about it being harmful to your nasal membranes, anything you snort save a nasal decongestant is abrasive to the membranes. XR may be released more slowly into the capillaries in the nose, but this is just a speculation. There really should be no difference.

[mmilam]

OK, listen:
Snorting the xr is practically, well honestly a pain in the ass and not worth the time. Im prescribed to the xr's and during school the tablets for those short periods i need to study.
Im telling you the tablets, yes, they are easy, and actually worth snorting(well, when i snorted them i really didnt feel that much different, this was back in the day)

but the xr's omg, i tried to crush those. damn its almost impossible. I even tried hitting them with a hammer and crush them. I dont see how you can crush them.

What you need to do is tell your doctor that you dont need the adderal all day, just tell him that you only need it for short work period hours, such as maybe studying or writing a paper, or working on a project or something like that.

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[sidewalkpharmacist]

as for crushing, a film canister and a screw driver with a handle that fits snugly into canister can crush the beeds(use a twisting motion not pounding)without having them fly everywhere

[Stan Mar5h]

I have been doing this for years. As soon as my doctor said we could change to the XR for more efficient effects, I thought "Fuck! Noooo.....!". But, aha, behold, for this method will make insufflation problems a thing of the past. And, it's not too complicated, so you don't have to be a atomic physicist with an industrial laboratory to do this, like so many other methods out there.

1. Empty the capsule of the extended release spansules a shallow dish, preferably a petri dish but this is not necessary. The shallow level is just for efficent use of the syringe (next part).

2. Heat water. Do NOT boil the water. Not only is this not needed, but it will sabotage the process. Many a tear has fallen as I tried this and wasted yet another precious pill. In fact, the hottest temperature on a tap is perfect. Just make sure it reaches it's hottest, and steam is visible. When the water has reached this state, QUICKLY dash the dish under the tap. The more water, the more solution there will be, and that translates to more time drying. There should only be enough water to fully immerse the spansules, any more is waste. Dash the dish back to a flat surface. The spansules will begin to dissolve immediately. You will notice a dark, definably orange powder to appear and dissolve in the water, while the lighter, definably tan extended release shells to sink to the botton. You just successfully iscolated the amphetamine salts from the pill binders!

3. Use a syringe (many people think of "shots" or "needles" when they hear "syringe", but a syringe is actually just a graduated cylinder with a plunger attached and a narrow-mouth opening. Syringes are needle-less by definition) to suck up the water mixed with the amphetamine salts. Take care not to inadvertently suck up one of the shells at the bottom of the mixture. Alternatively, a simple filtration method may be applied.

4. Move to a warm, dry place, and let sit until powder reappears and water evaporates. An easy way to do this is place the mixture in an pre-heated to 175F (Around 140C.) This takes about an hour and a half. Higher temperatures have not been sufficiently tested; go higher at your own risk because burning is a possibility. (The smell of burnt amphetamine is one that doesn't have a ton of possibilities for excuse.)

[bcStoner420]

SWIM just uses a pestle and mortar..

[Stan Mar5h]

When you use a mortar and pestle, you are still grinding up all of the pill binders and insufflating them. Ever notice how cocaine barely stings or burns at all when you snort it compared to adderall, dexedrine, methylphenidate, etc? Well it doesn't have binders (and its a topical analgesic, but still.) Amphetamine pills prepared this way burn alot less and there's less powder, making it easy to take higher doses.

[bcStoner420]

wouldnt the fillers dry up when you evap the water, ther probly just mixed in so good you cant tell. BTW swim find amphetamine to burn very little.

[AdderallJunkie102]

Originally Posted by Stan Mar5h

Ever notice how cocaine barely stings or burns at all when you snort it compared to adderall, dexedrine, methylphenidate, etc? Well it doesn't have binders

Your telling me you have never heard of cut coke? I mean comon, if anything most street drugs are bound to be cut with worse stuff then some polymer. I also don't really understand why people find it so damn hard to crush the XR beads. You don't even really need to buy a mortar and pestle, you can easily improvise one with like a short glass cup with a glue stick and maybe a small skin make up bottle.

(sorry for late reply)

[Maaaadnice]

SWIM found the effects of adderrall xr's to be much different than the regular. If SWIMs going to binge all night hell snort 2o mg's of the regular all night up to about 160-180mg max over the course of say 12 hours.

To break up the XR's.....say a 30mg.....arrange into two equal piles with a heavy duty card (like a hotel key card) .....CAREFULLY place the card over it and apply pressure to the edges so no beads will come out. Take the edge of a bottle cap and just rub it hard back and forth constantly applying pressure so nothing goes out the sides. Then push down and scrape back and forth on the table and repeat until its powdery enough.

SWIM still thinks that the XR's give him more of a jumpy ritalin tweaking effect, while normal adderrall provides him with a more controlled semi-euphoric feeling.

[kemistudent]

To break up the XR's.....say a 30mg.....arrange into two equal piles with a heavy duty card (like a hotel key card) .....CAREFULLY place the card over it and apply pressure to the edges so no beads will come out.

C'mon! Everyone knows you put the pills/material in a dollar bill, then crush! Especially with adderall XR as it's just a buch of little balls. =P

[Dimgold]

The easiest way to do this, if you are like me and don't like snorting adderall, is to empty the contents of the capsule into a shot glass and use the back end of a screwdriver or anything with a firm rounded end. The more snugly the rounded end of the instrument fits into the shotglass, the easier it will be to crush up the beads. Press and rotate the instrument into the bottom of the shot glass. After about a minute, you should have a very fine powder resembling the powder you would find in a pixie stick. Leave the powder in the shot glass and simply add your favorite drink (I prefer soda) into the shot glass with the powder. Drink. You will shortly have the effects of adderall without the time delay of adderall XR.

[mattp]

this may not give as much of a rush as snorting, but grinding w/ mortar then "parachuting" in either the original container or wet tissue paper will make it hit you hard and pretty damn fast- not quite as fast as snorting though.

[Forthesevenlakes]

swim attempted both snorting and parachuting routes with crushed capsules last week in a carefully controlled...ahem...experiment. swim found that parachuting not only yielded longer results, but actually a more intense 'rush', although not quite on par with normal adderall. as for the bead crushing, swim has always found that those two classic standbys, a lighter and currency from your country of choice, work on the beads just as well as any other type of substance that might need crushing. for some reason the xr doesnt seem to absorb as well nasally as well as regular adderall even after crushing. swim is going to go ahead and blame the presence of the inactive ingredients, although swim wants to know exactly why this seems to be the case in many people.

[RealGanjaMan]

Originally Posted by Dimgold

The easiest way to do this, if you are like me and don't like snorting adderall, is to empty the contents of the capsule into a shot glass and use the back end of a screwdriver or anything with a firm rounded end. The more snugly the rounded end of the instrument fits into the shotglass, the easier it will be to crush up the beads. Press and rotate the instrument into the bottom of the shot glass. After about a minute, you should have a very fine powder resembling the powder you would find in a pixie stick. Leave the powder in the shot glass and simply add your favorite drink (I prefer soda) into the shot glass with the powder. Drink. You will shortly have the effects of adderall without the time delay of adderall XR.

If any of you have a shotglass and adderall XR, SWIM would HIGHLY reccomend this. It worked perfectly for SWIM, who just tried it. Only difference was SWIM used water because the adderall seemed to absorb into it better. Personally SWIM thinks this is a better method than the dollar bill, because you don't lose a single bead, or any powder that sticks to the bill. Also, it only took SWIM about 20 seconds to completly grind up 40mg of beads.

-RGM

[Forthesevenlakes]

swim just scraped the bill with the credit card of his choice afterwards, but RGM, swim is intrigued by the shotglass method and will attempt it next time his lab rat gets the ol' add script filled.

[Myiuki tweakin']

MT has found that pouring the contents of an XR pill onto a shelf, then using something like the bottom of a hairbrush (block strays from flying by putting up paper walls) to crush however much of the pill is to be released at the same time, then using the paper to funnel what's left back into the empty capsule and ingesting it orally works well for a kick-in of about 15-50 mins, dependent on how much food has been eaten. MT finds that, on an empty stomach, the effects seem to last longer and begin slower, but the peak seems to be more intense. This could, however, be due to issues in the crushing process.

[izzy31]

Snorting it doesnt last long enough for SWIM no matter how much he has it's gone in a couple of hours so orally is a good bet because even though theres no rush or super strong effects right away it lasts longer and its alot smoother and comfortable if you take it all at once. plus you dont have to deal with that horrible dripping.

[iFeaRNLoathiNg]

Originally Posted by methyl

SWIMused to crush up the beads found in Adderall XR into a fine powder and snort. As far asSWIM recalled, it was decent but not as good as taking it orally. This may be due to the fact that SWIM snorted low amounts...


Recently, a little bird told SWIM that crushing the Adderall XR beads and snorting doesn't do anything. Little bird said it renders the Adderall(crushed beads = powder) useless. SWIM needs some answers.


Anyone know of anything about this?








ALSO, PS(off Snortingtopic): SWIM knows that a side effect of Adderall is bronchodilation, and SWIM enjoys when he is able to breathe well.As the Adderall effects taper off, SWIM notices it's harder to breathe normally and has noticed his breathinghad becomeshallow.(SWIM also smokes weed and cigs daily)


SWIM has to take deep breaths to get the sufficient amount of oxygen in his lungs... or at least that's whathe says itfeels like. After about a day, this bronchoconstriction effect alleviates and breathing becomes normal. SWIM is wondering if the bronchodilation effect contributes to the "what-seems" bronchoconstriction after the Adderall run.


Any help appreciated! Thanks@!

swim dont like to toot his own horn but he is "god"(the almighty creator) when it comes to m-amp(c10h15n), so he has a very high tolerence, and right now as he types he is tweeking balls off of adderall xr30mg(amphetamine) crushed into powder. if swim is high, it will get anyone high.(it is possible swiy has not crushed enough of the lil balls, they have to be crushed very very finely, like instead of applying presure its more like apply presure and grind from side to side. when its completly crushed it will look like alot, and very fluffly.if not completly broke down the xr in the name is still true)

[Kernacktur]

SWIM prefers just to pop them how they are since it lasts a very long time like that. He does like crushing the beads up every now and then though or only doing it to a pill or two. The best technique in SWIM's opinion is either placing a dollar bill of the pile of beads on a hard surface and going back on forth on the pill very hard with the side of a lighter. Round weights works too, just roll them back and forth no additional pressure is needed. SWIM likes to put the crushed powder back in the capsule and snorts w/e he can't fit back in. The crushed beads kick in faster but don't last as long

[Pentahedral]

I'm sure a lot of people will not be comfortable with this but SWIM has been plugging the xr's for awhile now, it's the quickest/strongest rush that SWIM knows from testing the different methods.

Just as long as you get over it and relax you probably won't be disappointed! I usually just crush the beads up in a shot glass then mix it with warm water and then transfer that to a syringe.

[lexifer]

swim's not a big fan of adderall in any form, per se. swim always found the dextroamphetamine-only drugs like dexedrine and dextrostat much more euphoric and all around more recreational. swims usual dose would be 80-100 mg over 8-12 hours. swim oalways likes to start by eating 20-30 mg and sniffing 10-15 to start and will then continue to eat and sniff 5mg chunks/bumps over the next 8-12 hours. this method of redosing keeps the comedown minimal. swim really cant tell that hes coming down since the earlier doses wear off while hes still skied on the later doses. as the later doses wear off he proceeds to smoke a few blunts or drink some beers and drift off to sleep in a relaxing stupor-like state.

the only time swim ever really does adderall is if its free or hes just using it to stay up all night and drink or smoke.

[Squidcat]

Originally Posted by Stan Mar5h

I have been doing this for years. As soon as my doctor said we could change to the XR for more efficient effects, I thought "Fuck! Noooo.....!". But, aha, behold, for this method will make insufflation problems a thing of the past. And, it's not too complicated, so you don't have to be a atomic physicist with an industrial laboratory to do this, like so many other methods out there.

1. Empty the capsule of the extended release spansules a shallow dish, preferably a petri dish but this is not necessary. The shallow level is just for efficent use of the syringe (next part).

2. Heat water. Do NOT boil the water. Not only is this not needed, but it will sabotage the process. Many a tear has fallen as I tried this and wasted yet another precious pill. In fact, the hottest temperature on a tap is perfect. Just make sure it reaches it's hottest, and steam is visible. When the water has reached this state, QUICKLY dash the dish under the tap. The more water, the more solution there will be, and that translates to more time drying. There should only be enough water to fully immerse the spansules, any more is waste. Dash the dish back to a flat surface. The spansules will begin to dissolve immediately. You will notice a dark, definably orange powder to appear and dissolve in the water, while the lighter, definably tan extended release shells to sink to the botton. You just successfully iscolated the amphetamine salts from the pill binders!

3. Use a syringe (many people think of "shots" or "needles" when they hear "syringe", but a syringe is actually just a graduated cylinder with a plunger attached and a narrow-mouth opening. Syringes are needle-less by definition) to suck up the water mixed with the amphetamine salts. Take care not to inadvertently suck up one of the shells at the bottom of the mixture. Alternatively, a simple filtration method may be applied.

4. Move to a warm, dry place, and let sit until powder reappears and water evaporates. An easy way to do this is place the mixture in an pre-heated to 175F (Around 140C.) This takes about an hour and a half. Higher temperatures have not been sufficiently tested; go higher at your own risk because burning is a possibility. (The smell of burnt amphetamine is one that doesn't have a ton of possibilities for excuse.)

SWIM does not recommend trying this method unless it is done with great care (no makeshift equipment!); while it is sound in concept there will inevitably be some unnecessary loss during extraction. SWIM does not enjoy insufflating Adderall and usually prefers longer, less intense effects as he uses Aderall more to stay awake and focus than to get high. Regardless of the purpose however, SWIM finds the most effective method to be:

1. Open capsules and pour the spansules into a ziploc bag, sheet of paper, dollar bill, or some other improvised container that will prevent them from moving around too much. Seal well.
2. Using a blunt object such as a cigarette lighter, crush the spansules thoroughly.
3. Re-fill the capsules with the resulting mixture of powder and the broken XR beads.

Do not insufflate the mixture of powder and beads, while the amphetamine salts can easily pass through the blood-brain barrier, the plastic beads probably will not and may accumulate in the mucuous membrane(!).

SWIM suggests that the hot water extraction method should be tested on a single pill first in case of failure; the following is an account of his unfortunate attempt.

SWIM attempted this method with three 10mg Adderall XR pills and by using haggard equipment, lost a significant amount of his material. Water was heated in a teapot and poured over spansules in a pyrex dish; unfortunately the water was apparently not hot enough as very few of the spansules opened (note: determine specific temperature required for seperation, use candy thermometer).
In retrospect, SWIM was rather impatient and should have waited several minutes to see if all of the spansules would open; instead he microwaved the mixtue for approx. 30 seconds. This was effective in opening the remaining spansules and evaporating a considerable amount of water; however, the concentration of Adderall in the solution did not appear to change. Instead, a faint white residue developed on the interior sides of the pyrex dish.
SWIM filtered the solution through a gold cone coffee filter and deposited it into a makeshift aluminum foil dish, which was then placed in an oven heated to 200 degrees (F), where the solvent was evaporated after approx. 2 hours. No powder was yielded from this extraction, instead an orange-ish brown resin like substance remained coating the foil. SWIM is doubtful about getting this into a capsule, and will probably attempt to smoke it later. If this fails he will try to lick the resin off, or perhaps quit being so fucking fiendish and throw it away. SWIM licked the residue off of the pyrex dish and and apparently ingested a considerable amount of the lost material sublingually; not only was the distinctive bitter taste of Adderall present, he got pretty high.

All in all SWIM considered this a failure, thankfully however only 30mg was wasted.

[jazzmetalguitar]

First of all, in response to squidcat: as far as an extraction of sorts goes, SWIM has heard of such things being much more successful when it comes to Dexedrine. Not to mention Dexedrine is 100% dextroamphetamine and so is more effective and for reasons which SWIM isn't sure it has an oral bioavailability of greater than 75%. Aside from that SWIM will continue on his original path...

SWIM is curious as to why people snort adderall XR period.

Here is why:

Adderall is (equal parts)...

-dextroamphetamine saccharate
-dextroamphetamine sulfate
-racemic blend of d-/l-amphetamine aspartate
-racemic blend of d-/l-amphetamine sulfate

Now, SWIM is under the understanding that this is also the order of salt release when the drug is taken properly (aka orally). The second two of the list are thus the two salts whose Microtrol beads are more resistant and take four hours before the drugs begin metabolization.

So, taking Adderall XR orally goes as follows: D-amp saccharate begins metabolization and effect within minutes of dosing and goes to work. Approximately 2-3 hours later d-amp sulfate is finally fully processed by the body and begins to go to work (since it metabolizes at a different rate). Between 4 and 6 hours after dosing, logically depending on acidity of stomach acid, the super-tough Microtrol coatings are dissolved and racemic aspartate begins to be absorbed and immediately goes to work (here SWIM is not sure if it immediately goes to work since it is a aspartate rather than a saccharate like the first salt; there may be a delay since the d-amps are a bit stronger and to extend effectiveness). Approximately between 7-9 hours after taking the pill the final salt, the racemic sulfate, kicks in and lasts until the pill fully wears off. [Note: SWIM is not sure that is the actual order of the releases, but it is unimportant and they could simply be called A,B,C,& D. In addition, SWIM is a bit doubting it is the order since he knows street amphetamine aka speed is an amphetamine sulfate and kicks in instantly.]

Grinding up the Microtrol beads and snorting the Adderall XR dust goes as follows: Obviously the d-amp saccharate is immediately absorbed as before, however, due to the lack of the protective coating, the racemic aspartate is absorbed and goes into effect at the same time. So, essentially the user is on two amps at once. Again, 2-3 hours, as the first two are wearing off, the d-amp sulfate will kick in just as before, however, again since the coating is not present the racemic sulfate will also kick in. Once again, 2 amps at once. Most people notice this lasts much shorter but is more powerful...obviously, that was just chemically explained. For most, this kick will be worth it despite the shortened time, but check this....

Orally taken Adderall IR (Instant Release-standard pill): Adderall IR contains the same four amphetamine salts as Adderall XR does. It however does not have the Microtrol coating for the racemic blends and so the IR itself is pretty much a racemic blend of the four salts since there are no coatings to seperate them. Now, what does this spell out pharmacokinetically? The pill enters the stomach and immediately the TWO salts which instantly metabolize are absorbed in the system (d-amp saccharate and racemic aspartate if SWIM really must point it out). About 2-3 hours later, the TWO amp sulfates (dextro and racemic) begin to kick in since there is a natural time delay on their metabolization. It seems to not only bear semblances of the snorting of XR but in fact it is the exact same: 2 salts, then 2 salts, half the time. What is Adderall IR's standard active period? 6 hours or so.

What does this mean?

To SWIMs understanding, people who snorted were attempting to often get "all of it at once" to say. Well, that dispels that myth. Now, while the metabolization of the insufflated XR and oral IR are the same, there is a difference that arises in once place: bioavailability. Insufflated amphetamine is three times more bioavailable at 75% than when taken orally(25%). Ok, so yeah...you are technically getting (or rather simply more efficiently using) three times the amp for increased effect. That made sense to SWIM until another fact occured to SWIM. Until recently SWIM only had access to XR and thus only knew the prices of that. However, in more recent days, SWIM has found out not only that Adderall IR can be found for less than 1/3 the price (in SWIM's market) but he also remember that IR actually comes in a generic version! And that is cheaper yet! And so unless one was really really worried about drug conservation for the sake of not wanting "precious" amphetamine molecules going down the toilet, an XR insufflator could get the same effect for cheaper. Not only that, but getting the three IRs and then waiting three hours between dosing would give 6 hours of a double and a 3 before and a 3 after of a single. Steadier experience anyone?

All that said, don't forget that even though it kicks a bit harder, snorting prescription drugs is a bit different than snorting free bases. Rx pills contain fillers, binders, disintegrants, coatings, lubricants, and colorants. That stuff can't be good up there and hell, those don't even give a high. Just think about it. There are always alternatives and the best part about drug use is doing it safely so it is always about enjoyment.

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