It's one of the lowest risk antidepressants
(in humans anyhow) for serotonin syndrome
, as far as I kow. I've never been on a tricyclic antidepressant
but have read they are lower in risk, unless one, of course, is overdosed.
Now I don't even know if serotonin syndrome is what happened to her.
That's all the doctor could come up with after I argued with he for awhile that it was only when THIS drug
was given to her, she changed.
She said, oh well maybe it's neurological
-----------I didn't mention in my last post that the reason I rushed her back to the doctor's even though I was waiting for her appointment within the couple days anyhow was because although she was going up and down (getting better, then sliding back) I found her where she sleeps, wide awake with her head shaking back and forth. It was the scariest, fucked up thing I'ds ever seen because she's my kid. Rushed her to the hospital and THEN is when I argued in person with the doctor and not over the phone with the nurses waiting a week before the appointment.-------------
So anyhow, I didn;t know if the head shaking was seizure, withdrawals, massive muscle twitching from overdose (mind you this was 9 days later I think)
and neither did the doctor.
The doctor didn't even know about the side effects
/risks/rare risks of the medication until I kept up arguing it was the drug.
As I've said, the doctor came back in saying "I'm sorry, we've never seen this so didn't know it could happen"
(I think as a doctor who regularily administers a drug should at least know the risks EVEN if they've never seen them before- also considering it's all over the internet literature for positive and negative experiences).
First we test on animals, then we test on humans, then we distribute to humans , then we distribute to animals and it's all experimentation,eh?
Anyhow- The stuff they gave her as an antidote (which I hated myself for agreeing to, another med- only made her stoned again, it kept her awake and more disorented,again- at this point I beyond hated myself).
What *I* still firmly believed helped her was the excessive fluids injection and time.
She was able to go to the washroom more, get rid of the waste in her body and her brain had time to withdrawal
How is she doing now?
She uses the litter box (inside the box), she washes herself, she purrs (not as much as she used to but it will come back), she still cannot jump but she can back up and turn around again( sometimes it seems a little difficult but she does it), she is walking normally now.
I think she has trouble seeing sometimes but I also know she can see.
She eats plenty (as she would of anyhow, AGAIN, she only stopped because of the infection, hence surgery to begin with).
I still know she's not the same.
I do know she's improved beyond whatever the hell that was.
I am hoping for a full recovery.
I would like to see her jump and run and knead my stomach again,etc....
She's doing much, much better though.
I wanted ya'll to know that.
Not quite herself but far,far away from the point where you're wondering you've suddenly got a severely, permanently handicapped child.
It pisses me off that the whole time I would call into the office complaining about this and that, they humoured me by listening because *they* had never seen this before.
Not one person working there looked it up, not one professional who went to medical school there knew the risks, not one person believed a damn word I said until I brought her into the hospital with a shaking head, and even after that, no one believed me until they went and did some research.
I am forever grateful she is getting better, but I am grateful for the surgery that helped her, and the water that eventually helped get the shit they put into her 5 days after surgery (when she was doing fine just not eating AS MUCH as they wanted her to -FAST ENOUGH) .
I am not grateful to the hospital I took her to, the doctors who worked with the issue nor the nurses.
I should have taken her to the same hospital I took my boys to, where they discuss with you everything they're doing and discuss things at length and would have listened to me had I of called them.
I hate myself for all the bad choices I made for her as a mother.
The doctors were highly irresponsible for not even knowing much about this drug they say they use all the time.
She had to do a print off from the net so she could read to me what it said about the medications.
Okay, why do I ALWAYS write my posts before coffee
I'm rambly as usual.
Anyhow, Emily is getting better.
That's what is important.
The doctors at the hospital's name I won't say, pitiful.
I'm switching back to the hospital all my boys went to.
I hope Emily will be the same again as she was before and would have been had it not been for this drug.
She's doing so, so much better.
Now what's left is time.
She'll recover completely.
And yes, from the sheet they gave me with lists of drugs
(after all this) they use on animals regularily included Effexor
, all that shit.
Can you believe it?
I felt like I was watching an animal experimentation video
live on my own child.
Sidenote: if a cat pees around the house, instead of figuring out why- perhaps kidney problems, or territorial issues, or enviromental boredom, etc....problems with litter box (some cats are picky) some vet's and owners just say either well put them on *this* permanently to stop the problem or put them down.
When I told her, I can't believe pet owners put their animals on this crap regularily, that's when she told me people use it on their animals to stop certain behaviours or put the down.
I say, look at other possible solutions for your animals troubles first.
Same as in people.
But no, it's always right to the pill isn't it?
I have so much anger inside I could go on and on.
But any of you who've read my posts before are used to me rambling and repeating so I'm sure you'll excuse it.
I'll stop here, for now.
There should be a sub-forum somewhere for animals and medications that way someone who goes looking for more information will have some extra advice.
Although there is plenty out there, and the doctor should have known about Mirtazapine
's risks in the first place.
And they say they use is often on "depressed" animals (mine was used for an appetite stimulant but whatever-same drug)
but no wonder some animals become depressed, look at their lives.
If we let them outside, they get smucked by our one million fucking roads, if they are kept inside, they live day in/day out in walls.
So, if they see many behavioural issues in animals (which could be caused by many medical isues (ie: peeing-kidney issues) that should be considered FIRST before drugs,
then you'd think she would have known what serotonin syndrome was too.
I know my posts are always confusing and jumping all over the place. Ugh.
Anyhow, my anger is toward that hospital.
My happiness is that she's getting better.
My head says I need more coffee and I should stop typing now.