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Old 04-07-2010, 18:27
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Blood in the syringe - shot wasted?

Swim was injecting himself for the first time last night, he followed all the tips he read on here, he stuck the needle in, drew up some blood to make sure he was in a vein but when he tried to loosen the tourniquet he bumped his syringe and lost his position.....he actually did this a few times so now he has some syringes with blood mixed in with the shit...like a lot of blood that everything is red and would have a hard time seeing blood if he tried to draw back again so he needs some advise as to what he can do

can he mix the blood tainted shit with water and try again? since it would now be a pinkish and easier to see new blood coming in....and how long can it stay in the syringe before it 'goes bad'?

what do swiys recommend?
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:48
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

Swim has never shot up. And shooting up street drugs is a horrible idea in general. But, if the blood's been sitting in the syringe for more than like a minute, it probably isn't a safe idea to inject the shit due to bacteria growth and the fact that the blood might start clotting in the syringe and clog one of swiys arteries.

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Old 05-07-2010, 11:31
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

SWIM wouldn't waste the meth. You can still tell if your in a vein or not, drawing blood from anywhere else but the vein is painful.
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Old 05-07-2010, 17:10
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

swim would absolutely say it is not usable any more.
it's like asking for trouble to use old drugs mixed with blood that has been out of your body...

but never shot any drug so... just trying to help
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:25
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

Swim has done this when he first started blasting. Swim drank it instead of throwing it out and put it down to a learning experience. Eventually Swim found that if he lost his "position" as long as he immediatly (no messing around) stuck it in a new vein it was fine. Swim would not inject the stuff left over from last nite under any circumstances due to bacteria and clotting.

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he is being smart and honest and i would have done the exact same thing. its a compromise between saving shit and not being an idiot.
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Old 20-07-2010, 00:31
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

eat it, plug it
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Old 24-07-2010, 13:44
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

ya eat it. it sound like you let it sit for at least a few days so spill it and ingest, or just squirt in mouth.
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Old 24-07-2010, 19:01
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

Girlie wouldn't wanna waste it, so she'd probably plug it. In fact, she *has* done just that in the past, both during her heroin shooting phase & her cocaine shooting phase. Why not methamphetamine?

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Old 24-07-2010, 19:42
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

swim has had this problem before, he would loosen the tourniquet, and nock the syringe out of his vein. he would use a belt, and keep the end in his teeth, but feed it a little slack once blood was registered, and keep the end in his mouth so it wouldn't flop down and nock the syringe. that way there is minimal movement around the syringe, and the area where swiy is shooting.

as to the original question, swim isn't sure, but thinks that advice may help in the future.
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Old 06-08-2010, 21:41
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

just yesterday swims friend was trying to fix outside and got discovered so he had a full syrynge of blood...he went to swims house and swim added some water and put it in another syringe and it worked fine but you gotta be careful cuz the blood clots in the syringe and either the syringe gets clogged or the clot goes into you and thats not good
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:45
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

I had a friend once that i saw the same thing happen to, he added alittle more water and when he drew up the new blood was darker. He left it in the syringe for a day not any longer

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Also run under hot water

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Old 27-08-2010, 16:16
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

i shoot allot, but that shita just gross, dont shoot it, as soon as you see the clow of blood you push the dope in your vein you dont have to losen the turn, your vein will take it fine but you wont feel the large rush till after you move the terq

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Old 28-08-2010, 15:46
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

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Swim was injecting himself for the first time last night, he followed all the tips he read on here, he stuck the needle in, drew up some blood to make sure he was in a vein but when he tried to loosen the tourniquet he bumped his syringe and lost his position.....he actually did this a few times so now he has some syringes with blood mixed in with the shit...like a lot of blood that everything is red and would have a hard time seeing blood if he tried to draw back again so he needs some advise as to what he can do

can he mix the blood tainted shit with water and try again? since it would now be a pinkish and easier to see new blood coming in....and how long can it stay in the syringe before it 'goes bad'?

what do swiys recommend?
This guy I used to know, he had this happen quite a bit toward the end of a multi-day tweak-end when his veins were shot and his hands were shaking bad.

His method was to pull up some more water, and empty the syringe back into his spoon, and filter the clots out with a fresh cotton so it would inject smooth. Lose some drugs that way, but you don't inject clotted blood back into your system (that's bad mmm'kay?)

Course, that's just what this junkie I use to know did. He didn't die, so maybe you won't either.

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Old 03-10-2010, 08:45
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

Ya know, SWIM lost her shot one time and the syringe was mostly full of blood and she finally hit; and she got a hella weird high or got sick.it's hard to describe, but she got all quiet and just wanted to sit by herself away from her bf. She figured it was a bad effect from shooting old blood.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:11
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

swim can say that this is a skill learned the hard way or the easy way,just depends on how good swiy's veins are.swim ended up with many track marks,and lots of blood filled syringes,DONT inject old blood or risk getting many blood viruses like hep c. swim suggests asking a fellow banger for tricks of the trade.swim knows swiy should always use alcohol swab,use clean utensils,use fresh h2o,some bubbles in syringe are ok,but try to remove all. 15-25 cc's of water for each 1/4 gm,or more.never use syringe twice.& IF it starts burning bad ,do not continue injecting,stop,regroup.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:48
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

as many swimmers have said, it is full-on unacceptable to do. blood is a pathogens palace...they live and thrive there, so when it is out of swims body, it should not go back in. the exception is in the air free environment of the syringe.(swim will also agree with Gandolf...if swim missed, and got back in there quick, while a dumb thing to do, it was acceptable.

swim learned a trick from a bro he once knew(rest in peace, dpb (~);} ) and it is so simple. but swims eloquence in describing things isnt what it should be, so bear with swim:
squat down on swiys haunches while holding swiys left forearm,(if shootin right handed) almost at the wrist in the crook of swiys knee. swiy will be able to feel how to do this...like the calf will be pressing on the outter foerarm, and the muscle thing(acl sounds familiar)that connects knee to thigh will be on the wrist.
just squat down, put swiys wrist between the knee, the vein will be right on top,waiting,and swiy can release any time swiy wants.(takes a little balance. if any swimmer reads this, and understands swims explanation, swiy should see instantly. now, if swiy can explain better than swim, please do
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Old 03-10-2010, 17:09
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

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DONT inject old blood or risk getting many blood viruses like hep c.
This is incorrect. One cannot catch Hep C from their own blood.

While injecting "old blood" has a whole HOST of reasons that make it dangerous to do, catching Hep C isn't one of them.

Unless, of course, one is injecting someone ELSE's blood, in which case it doesn't matter if it's new or old.

But, since the topic of this thread is injecting one's OWN blood that's been sitting in a syringe, just thought I'd mention you canNOT get Hep C from your own blood that's been sitting in a syringe.

Now, some kind of embolism...

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Old 07-10-2010, 08:53
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This is incorrect. One cannot catch Hep C from their own blood.

While injecting "old blood" has a whole HOST of reasons that make it dangerous to do, catching Hep C isn't one of them.

Unless, of course, one is injecting someone ELSE's blood, in which case it doesn't matter if it's new or old.

But, since the topic of this thread is injecting one's OWN blood that's been sitting in a syringe, just thought I'd mention you canNOT get Hep C from your own blood that's been sitting in a syringe.

Now, some kind of embolism...

~Kailey
swim was advised by DR. @ university hospital that SWIY CAN get hep c from swiy's own dried blood.swim is basing popst on what dr. said. DR. is always right. swim would like to see info debating this post.

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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

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swim was advised by DR. @ university hospital that SWIY CAN get hep c from swiy's own dried blood.swim is basing popst on what dr. said. DR. is always right. swim would like to see info debating this post.

Swim has also heard hep c can be contracted from swiy's own dried blood. after re-use of same syringe. !!even if you can't see it!! swim always uses clean gear and so should swiy

and if swiy is having trouble registering because blood is already in syringe. Draw 10 units very slowly. swiy should be able to "tell" more blood is being drawn. and the blood should get darker as swiy draws back. if no bubbles are asperated swiy should inject swiftly and carefully after taking tourniquet off. Blowing vein is NOT fun.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:02
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

Slightly off-topic, but to confirm what SWIKailey stated regarding HEP-C. Don't want to spread urban legend or bad information... just because someone is a doctor doesn't mean they can't have bad information or spread dis-information.

Unless the blood has been cross-contaminated with someone else's blood or fluids containing the virus, you CANNOT get HEP-C from your own blood. That goes for any other blood borne disease as well, such as HIV. If it wasn't there to begin with, it won't be there later. It is for this very reason that some patients will have their own blood taken and stored before surgery in the event of a transfusion. As long as there was no cross contamination, the person will get their own blood back in the transfusion, just like it left them only slightly older, and nothing extra unwanted.

Back on topic, SWIM's hamster agrees with an earlier poster who stated one should just remove the needle and shoot it up the butt. Through the mouth and down the hatch is a bit gross to some, but would be effective, though slower to take effect.

It's probably the safest way to avoid blood which might be coagulated, a very bad thing, as well as the whole "hit-or-miss" affair of trying to re-inject into a vein.

That's what SWIM's hamster had to say, but he's just a hamster...

Be well...

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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

Do NOT inject old blood of your own (or anyone else's of course!!!) that has been sitting around in the syringe. Ever! If using a small gauge rig you probably won't even be able to inject the solution anyway because blood will have clotted in the needle. The only safe time my hamster knows when to inject blood is if you have drawn back with a NEW, CLEAN rig and know you are in a vein because you see blood, but then lose the vein. As SWIM has stated above, working VERY quickly withdraw the needle and give it a few sharp flicks. Depending on the type/amount of drug solution you are using, this should result in a bright pink color. Quickly find another vein and try again. Clotting in the actual needle part of the rig can happen within 30 seconds in my hamster's experience. So if you find you are not able to register more blood from a usually reliable vein it probably means there is a clot blocking the needle. Nothing can be injected in, nothing can be drawn out. DO NOT force the plunger in this case as you may dislodge the clot into your vein. Not a good idea says my hamster. Either accept you have f**ked up the shot and eat it by removing the plunger and banging the syringe sharply several times into a sterile spoon until the solution runs out. If the needle hasn't clotted much you may also, using force, be able to just squirt the shot into your mouth by dislodging the clot. Swallowing/ingesting small clots of your own blood is not particularly harmful according to my hamster. Or, if you are really determined to have a shot, use a new rig and good quality filter to draw up the pinkish liquid from the sterile spoon. Again working quickly, if you are able to register more very dark red blood, my hamster says it should be safe to inject this solution. NEVER attempt to inject blood that has been sitting in a syringe for more than about one minute. After this amount of time, NEVER attempt to inject blood that hasn't been mixed thoroughly into the drug solution by flicking and re-filtered using a new rig. Even with a tiny gauge needle there is always a risk that a miniscule clot will manage to pass through it and into your bloodstream. My hamster says he can live without the dangers of injecting blood clots, miniscule or otherwise. My hamster would just save the hassle and eat the shot.

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just squat down, put swiys wrist between the knee, the vein will be right on top,waiting,and swiy can release any time swiy wants.
(takes a little balance. if any swimmer reads this, and understands swims explanation, swiy should see instantly. now, if swiy can explain better than swim, please do[/QUOTE]

Sorry to go off-topic, but I think this technique must work much better if you are a guy! My female FOAF's boobs keep getting in the way of a clear shot at the vein. LOL. Oh well

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[QUOTE]just squat down, put swiys wrist between the knee, the vein will be right on top,waiting,and swiy can release any time swiy wants.[QUOTE]

Sorry to go off-topic, but I think this technique must work much better if you are a guy! My female FOAF's boobs keep getting in the way of a clear shot at the vein. LOL. Oh well

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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

It's fine to inject your blood that's been drawn into the syringe from trying to register in a vein.
I always get blood mixed in my shots from trying to hit. It's your blood why would that be harmful. Your just putting it back in the vein. I have also turned shots too dark from the blood where you can't see if new blood is registering. So what you do is keep an eye on the air bubble you get in the syringe from pulling back and if you're registered in a vein, the air bubble will fill up all the way. It's filling up with the blood from the vein. You can pull back as much as you want. It will keep filing.
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

If it was within couple of minutes then id use it. You can tell still even if fit is red. I've done it few times. Outside the vein will draw a vacuum.
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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

pookie, there's a difference between blood that has been in the syringe for, say, less than 10 minutes while you try to inject, and a blood-containing syringe that's been sitting around for an hour/10 hours/4 days.

The former is fine, the latter is dangerous.

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Re: Blood in the syringe (need advise)

This happens to my Squirrel more often than she would like haha...
When the syringe gets too dark & bloody Squirrel squirts the mixture back into her spoon and fills the syringe with water 2-3 times to clear it & keep the plunger from getting sticky from clotting/drying blood. Depending on how big the initial shot was she then either 1) just adds some water to the mix and re-draws it through a new filter to try again OR 2) splits the volume in the syringe half water & half meth/blood mix and makes up another shot the same way with the rest of the blood/meth mix. She does both shots in different places to keep from over using the same spot.
(Squirrels veins are a little messy from being stupid too many times so she is very hesitant to put too much volume in 1 shot & risk something going wrong thus the second process)
If the syringes have had blood in them for more than an hour tops Squirrel wouldn't suggest trying to use the mixtures and would just start over. Clotting/clotted blood isn't something you should try to inject.

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