How to abuse Fentanyl Patches

[trial-x]

Well, SWIM has been taking it and thus far id ok. He understands that "addiction" is a vague word, but several posts state that it is very addictive. That is why the question was asked. Not sure I understand the supposed correlation between fear of addiction and becoming addicted.

[Dig-It]

Unfortunately I consider myself to be an expert, that's both good and bad. First my tolerance had gone to 0 after a detox in Florida and I tried to IM a 75 gel, I died for 6 seconds, brought back with Narcan which saved my life and kind of f*cked the ride. Anyways Mylan is full of s*it thinking they have come up with a tamper proof patch. I imagine every 1/2 savy patch guru prepped it within 15. Anyways that's all I've got to say, I'm not gettin in trouble for saying any more, all I gots to say is IM is the best baby! All you baby's who are afraid of doing anything other than tatooing it to your skin, good for you! You're playing it safe, keep it that way cuz I'm not telling you the secrets of the Jedi-Masters. If you can't master the force, you are still a padawyne, but at least you are still alive padawyne right? I've had my life almost taken away by Ativan, OxyContin, Duragesic (died 6 sec), Ambien, I need prayers fellas, prayers! All this from Roids, Degen Disc Disease, heavy weight lifting.

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[ultimatewraith]

I am an opiate user. I consider myself experienced but not an expert by any means. I also consider myself a tolerant person when it comes to opiates. I have done codeine phosphate, hydrocodone, oxycodone, hydromorphone, morphine, dolophine (Methadone) and just recently stepped up to fentanyl.

Of all the opiates I have used I have yet to find one to give me a better high than good old hydrocodone. I sure as hell don't know why and I don't understand it. However I need to take about 150mg of hydrocodone to accomplish a good high. I have to take the 10/325 (Norco) to attain this because of the acetaminophen issue. This is to give you information on where I stand for my question.

I respect fentanyl so much because of what I heard about it. To be honest, I think I'm scared of it. I do have several Mylan 50 mcg patches at the house. When I wear them normally I do not feel anything that resembles an opiate high or effect on me. I have heard of techniques where you can obtain fentanyl bliss from these things.

My question is what is the process I need to take to "chew on" my Mylan Fentanyl patches. What do I need to do to get a fentanyl high off these things. Please. I must know because I must try. Thank you all that respond.

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Swim does all of those illegal things ;-)

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by Desertfox

just cut the a few squares off the mylan patch and chew on them for a long while or stick some small pieces in a light bulb vaporizer and freebase that shit, although the light bulb method works, i dont know how safe it is because you are vaporizing it with the plastic part of the patch stuck to the fentanyl. from personal experience i can say the vaporizing definately is the best way i have used the Mylan patches.

Originally Posted by ultimatewraith

I am an opiate user. I consider myself experienced but not an expert by any means. I also consider myself a tolerant person when it comes to opiates. I have done codeine phosphate, hydrocodone, oxycodone, hydromorphone, morphine, dolophine (Methadone) and just recently stepped up to fentanyl.

Of all the opiates I have used I have yet to find one to give me a better high than good old hydrocodone. I sure as hell don't know why and I don't understand it. However I need to take about 150mg of hydrocodone to accomplish a good high. I have to take the 10/325 (Norco) to attain this because of the acetaminophen issue. This is to give you information on where I stand for my question.

I respect fentanyl so much because of what I heard about it. To be honest, I think I'm scared of it. I do have several Mylan 50 mcg patches at the house. When I wear them normally I do not feel anything that resembles an opiate high or effect on me. I have heard of techniques where you can obtain fentanyl bliss from these things.

My question is what is the process I need to take to "chew on" my Mylan Fentanyl patches. What do I need to do to get a fentanyl high off these things. Please. I must know because I must try. Thank you all that respond.

Originally Posted by Wyborowa

ultimatewraith...

yea, i kno what you mean, i needed about 120mg of tabs to get high at my peak....i weigh 200lbs...so i would take 10/500 (watson) to get high, wouldn't care abut the aspirin in it...or i'd boot it rectally

Originally Posted by Dig-It

Unfortunately I consider myself to be an expert, that's both good and bad. First my tolerance had gone to 0 after a detox in Florida and I tried to IM a 75 gel, I died for 6 seconds, brought back with Narcan which saved my life and kind of f*cked the ride. Anyways Mylan is full of s*it thinking they have come up with a tamper proof patch. I imagine every 1/2 savy patch guru prepped it within 15. Anyways that's all I've got to say, I'm not gettin in trouble for saying any more, all I gots to say is IM is the best baby! All you baby's who are afraid of doing anything other than tatooing it to your skin, good for you! You're playing it safe, keep it that way cuz I'm not telling you the secrets of the Jedi-Masters. If you can't master the force, you are still a padawyne, but at least you are still alive padawyne right? I've had my life almost taken away by Ativan, OxyContin, Duragesic (died 6 sec), Ambien, I need prayers fellas, prayers! All this from Roids, Degen Disc Disease, heavy weight lifting.

ENOUGH WITH THE SELF INCRIMINATION

I know you guys are new to the forum but PLEASE check the rules!

Use SWIM when referring to drug use.

Apart from that, good quality experiences and posts.

[Wyborowa]

ultimatewraith...

yea, swim kno what you mean, swim needed about 120mg of tabs to get high at swims peak....i weigh 200lbs...so swim would take 10/500 (watson) to get high, wouldn't care abut the aspirin in it...or swim boot it rectally

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Swim needs that amount to get high, not you

[Desertfox]

just cut the a few squares off the mylan patch and chew on them for a long while or stick some small pieces in a light bulb vaporizer, although the light bulb method works, SWIM doesnt know how safe it is because you are vaporizing it with the plastic part of the patch stuck to the fentanyl, most of the plastics used in the patch have a high melting and boiling point so just be careful and watchc the temp. SWIM can say the vaporizing definately is the best way he has used the Mylan patches.

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Swim uses Mylan patches, not you :-)

[trial-x]

SWIM's brief experiment with the Mylan non-gel patches resulted in this:
best effect by continuous cycle of having 1 or1/2 patch (50's) on skin while simultaneously placing 1/4-1/2 patch under tongue as needed... SWIM rotated wearing new patch with oral doses of the worn patches. Eight patches of 50 lasted about a week. Heating patches on skin slightly helped SWIM jolt a dose, same with oral squares. Trying to smoke the rubbed off adhesive-laced fentanyl resulted in very brief high, which SWIM believes was from the adhesive--not from fentanyl. No rush was ever acheived by SWIM, just a nice and steady goodness occassionally interrupted by nausea.

[rocco_blitz]

Well swim enjoys drinking his with great results for him.Swim usually takes a 50 and cuts in half,even with swims tolorence he still only uses half approx.25. Swim knows that it is hard to get exact by cutting it in half but has been doing for a while and seems to be consistent with his method.Swim is interested in the smoking idea but thinks he will stick to his method of drinking since it works for him not to mention swim does not want to lose or waste such a enjoyment .Swim know the dangers of the patch but not to brag is experienced and has a high tolorence to others like oxy 80 mg doesnt even do it for swim anymore.Swim would suggest not to injest this stuff unless swiy is like swim (high tolorence).Swim just whishes he could obtain methadone by doc instead of going 100 freaking miles one way everyday to a clinic to maybe kick it all .................

[PliersOfSociety]

I don't know of the potential for harm of glycerine, but that is the primary ingredient in the gel. My concern would be with chemical changes occuring from tampering , i.e. introduction of substances in of themselves fairly safe, like NaCl 0.9 % solution, which could alter the chemical structure of the fentanyl, creating fentanyl-something. Also, without listing exact lab values and violating SWIM's privacy, something in them can elevate liver enzymes to many times the normal levels leading to sudden potentially fatal liver failure. I don't know what it is, but it very nearly killed SWIM. Plus, there is very limited oral bioavailability with fentanyl (probably why the drinker mentioned abouve uses half a patch at a time). Due to the liver damage that does occur to some, even though there are supposedly no harmful additives, I couldn't see risking ingestion of direct gel/fentanyl

[Brewpub420]

SWIM has been getting the 25 patches for a few years now , craziest thing done was certainly when SWIM put 8 on the body at the same time , movement wasn't even a possibility and SWIM assumed he was probably going to die after awhiel. Anyway , SWIM hears alot about smoking the gel from a Duragesic , however the regular Fentanyl patch has no gel to speak of , just looks like a slip of plastic. SWIM chews these up and gets a nice buzz , almost speedy to tell the truth. Wearing seems to be a waste of time so chewing has been the only alternative. However SWIM has been sharing with someone who just loves to smoke anything and everything , mostly meth , and has been bugging SWIM for quite some time to find out if the active chemicle could be extracted somehow and then smoked. SWIM knows that with the Duragesic one could just dry it and use the crystals , but with no gel is there a usefull way to get the good stuff off of the plastic? Anyone out there who chews notice the god aufull flavor , makes SWIM shudder everytime from the taste. SWIM just relocated and to tell the truth would avoid this stuff but can't find drug of choice anywhere (Weed) everyone I meet seems to be totally into speed of any kind esp. Meth. SWIM has had bad experiences with meth so this is not an option , and nosey neighbors means no grow time either. So back to the origional question , does any one know for sure how to do this (extract the stuff) for smoking purposes?

[kevip7]

I was started on 25mg patches, then 50 now, 100mg. I absoutely feel no high what so ever from them. All they do is burn and itch and fall off. I keep them on with duck tape. In fact I dont know that they even do anything for my pain. Not that I would do it but chewing on part of a patch or drying the gel out and smoking it gets you geeking?? My 100's are mylan so there is no gel in these.. just curious how you guys do it.. Also curious about stopping them cold turkey as I might have to do due to international travel.. is there withdrawel associated with these patches? I am all to familiar with hydro withdrawel as it almost killed me.. Suboxone has now saved me many times.. anyway looking for the above info from some of you pro's.. thanks

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by kevip7

Not that I would do it but chewing on part of a patch or drying the gel out and smoking it gets you geeking??

either applying some of the gel to the skin (to make it immediately absorbed instead of going through the patch membrane) or rubbing some of it on the mouth, or chewing a patch has all worked for swim. swim has heard of methods for smoking these but doesnt know how to do so offhand, it probably involves taking a bit of the gel, putting it on foil, and heating from underneath til it bubbles and then chasing the dragon.

My 100's are mylan so there is no gel in these..

swim was never sure how to use the mylans aside from wearing them. if they arent working, perhaps swiy should try applying them to a different part of the body. or swiy may have a large tolerance and thats why he/she doesnt get high from them. but if they are not working for swiy's pain maybe swiy should ask their doctor about breakthrough pain options. not to get high off, but if swiy is in constant pain he/she deserves to have that treated properly.

is there withdrawel associated with these patches?

indeed, there is. its about the same as any opioid withdrawal, and just as unpleasant. suboxone would probably help with it though. if swiy has to travel, there usually isnt a problem bringing the patches as long as swiy has a valid prescription. but if swiy cannot or does not want to bring them, it would be best to taper off them gradually, by going back down to 50 mcg patches, then 25, then 12.5, then maybe switching to morphine, down to hydro, down to codeine, and then stopping use. this would take time but it'd beat the hellish withdrawals from fentanyl =]

[Gerfee]

Originally Posted by kevip7

I was started on 25mg patches, then 50 now, 100mg. I absoutely feel no high what so ever from them. All they do is burn and itch and fall off. I keep them on with duck tape. In fact I dont know that they even do anything for my pain. Not that I would do it but chewing on part of a patch or drying the gel out and smoking it gets you geeking?? My 100's are mylan so there is no gel in these.. just curious how you guys do it.. Also curious about stopping them cold turkey as I might have to do due to international travel.. is there withdrawel associated with these patches? I am all to familiar with hydro withdrawel as it almost killed me.. Suboxone has now saved me many times.. anyway looking for the above info from some of you pro's.. thanks

Swim is on Oxy80 times 3 at 3 times a day. Plus swim wears 100mg Fentanyl patch as well. Needless to say swim has very high tolerance. When oxys are out and before swim cam pick up next prescrip. swim takes used patches and scrapes a little with (between) teeth to loosen up Fentanyl folds it in half then puts between gums and cheek for about half an hour to an hour. This works great and if swim is using new patches swim will cut in 1/4 and do same thing. Swim doesn't know of an easy way to smoke from these type of patches that have no gel. But some of the other threads have talked about a swim using glass from a light bulb to inhale vapor of Fentanyl. So maybe check them out as the swim someone knows hasn't ever tried that. Swim knows that Fentanyl is very very addictive and with drawl is insane horrible.
rock on

[lynnfromct]

SWIM has dried the gel, and is ready to smoke it. Any new advice on size or conditions?

[lynnfromct]

SWIM used to remove the coating on oxycontin tablets by heating in spoon, then putting the tablet in a stem and smoking it - high was intense, better than crack/cocaine and they needed no benzo to come down. When the high wore off, after several hours - they simply fell asleep.

SWIM needed 40mg to get off.

[kevip7]

Thanks for info, I think I will make an attempt not to take these for my nerve damage as I dont think I want to have withdrawel while on my trip overseas.. I do feel the 100's as last night was my first time to wear them. I need doc letter where I am going to bring these and doc doesnt want me to go due to the long flight so not sure if he would write the letter. I figured there was no withdrawel as I didnt feel the 50's at all. Thanks for the info. I cant believe some swims do the things they do.. withdrawel is hell, and its impossible to get endless supplies, swims are crazy.. but thanks again for the info

[Desertfox]

swim has explained in another forum about the mylan patches on how to smoke/vaporize the gel-less patch. UTSFE

[lynnfromct]

SWIM got semi-hard crystals but got nothing when tried to smoke it. Not a high, or a headache, but did feel alittle bit itchy.

SWIM either did it wrong, or didn't have enough from a 50mcg patch from Sandoz.

Not worth trying it again said SWIM

[kevip7]

I got three and a half weeks.. I will stick to my hydro and live with the pain.. hope doc agrees and signs my stupud letter.. cant take codeine, I go see the guy on wens so will have more of my fate told to me.. not taking these things again.. I know some of the swims out there love them, I love my hydro but.. I just cant handle 100mg patches or the fact that I will be addicted to them on purpose by my doc.. addict me to hydro but not anything else.. I have enough probs already.. thought I was going to puke my brains out today, plus cant remeber a headache so bad.. plus chest was hurting today too

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by kevip7

I got three and a half weeks.. I will stick to my hydro and live with the pain.. hope doc agrees and signs my stupud letter.. cant take codeine, I go see the guy on wens so will have more of my fate told to me.. not taking these things again.. I know some of the swims out there love them, I love my hydro but.. I just cant handle 100mg patches or the fact that I will be addicted to them on purpose by my doc.. addict me to hydro but not anything else.. I have enough probs already.. thought I was going to puke my brains out today, plus cant remeber a headache so bad.. plus chest was hurting today too

If you keep feeling sick it might be worth investing in some anti-emetics, if you are legitimately using opiates like hydro for pain im sure he will be happy to prescribe you an anti-emetic like cyclizine.

Another issue is you should relook over the rules some people may consider you post as self-incrimination.

Happy to help

[kevip7]

Self incriminating I would agree; if I was abusing! but everything I have done has been under doctors orders.. so I totally agree with you but like I said I am following docs orders on taking my meds.. which I feel he prescribed to me in excess.. I do appreciate the knowledge of some of the swims out there, was just curiouse thats all on how some swims use this stuff in another way.. knowledge is power and I like to know everything.. I dont see how though my post is breaking the law or incriminating myself in any wrong doing. Doc tells me what to take and and I follow his instructions.. so not sure how I have incriminateed myself?? In fact I have broke his recommendation and have not taken as much meds as he has prescribed because I cant handle what he is suggesting.. anyway thanks for the advice guys as this is what I was looking for so I can better treat myself and my conditions.. for all you geekers out there stay safe and dont do anything stupid..

[Nagognog2]

It is correct form here to use SWIM, or similar, to infer ANY experiences that could be construed as illegal ANYWHERE on the planet. Please do so from here on.

Thank you.

And have a nice journey. Have SWIM tell the doctor he will be taken out of SWIM's will if he won't write the letter for him. That should do it.

[kevip7]

I hope so, cause I need this letter and the medication for this swim I know. The country that this swim is going to hangs people for 12 ounces of mary jay, so it is very serious.. I am on the understanding that there is no detox med for the patches? is this correct.. this will increase the swim to get off of these asap. Pills can be easily detoxed with stuff this swim has but not sure on the other.. I wish this swim didnt have to take anything at all.. this swim is so sick of this life, he or she has seen 6+ docs and it just plain tired.. tons of tests, MRI's and other crap and still no fix.. when does it end..

[Forthesevenlakes]

nope. theres no magic bullet that will let swiy detox off any opiate. you just have to man up and ride it out...dxm and loperamide can help a bit, and do a search on the forum for tips on kicking opiates. that could help.

[kevip7]

Not familiar with these two drugs, if you got more info will be appreciated.. doc apoligized to the swim and gave him lower 75mg patches which I didnt want.. but take em both or nothing is his treatment options for now.. not real happy but at least he agreed to write the swim a letter so I dont get hanged in this other country for bringing this crap in..