Drug info - What Other Substances Fit on Blotter/In One Drop?

[Jatelka]

Originally Posted by jarka

Can anyone name me the RCs with active dose low enough to put it into a blotter?

DOB, DOC, DON, DOM, DOI.

2C-C has been put on blotters but SWIJ believes these are much thicker than normal

SWIJ has also heard of Bromo-Dragonfly on blotter (see www.blotterart.net).

Are there any more? 2C-I and 2C-B have mg dosages and so would have to be large "sandwich" type blotters.

[treefingers49]

I always found that the simplest way to tell was by how long it took to begin feeling the hit. LSD usually takes under half an hour (SWIM always gets his first alerts within fifteen minutes), while most substances that have been found on blotters lately take at least an hour.

[jarka]

Well, my friend took this blotter and told me it took about 2 hours to kick him. And that it was quite low potency blotter (tho he has never done lsd either).
Would it be a good idea to eat this blotter at a indoor psychedelic rave?
My friend told me that he felt an urge to dance

[nanobrain]

would it be a good idea to take an unknown drug - most likely not LSD judging by the slow comeup - for the first time and go to a confined place full of weirded-out strangers?

and how would your friend know fuck-all about blotter potency if he's never had LSD before?

[jarka]

Originally Posted by nanobrain

and how would your friend know fuck-all about blotter potency if he's never had LSD before?

Well, he said that it was less intense than when we ate 500+ morning glory seeds and stuff.. well, I think you don't have to be a rocket scientist to say if a blotter is potent or not..

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM went to a squat rave last night in london and found some incredibley good blotter acid. It had a picture of hoffman on his bike, I think they're called hoffman super 2000s or something. SWIM dropped 2 tabs at the begininning of the night which was to be the start of the greatest psychedelilic experience of his life, he got through a fair bit of K as well. Fractals within fractals within fractals. Depth perception completely went and SWIM had trouble working out if he was in a tiny room or huge stadium. Reality and hallucinations became to difficult to differentiate between, SWIM had no idea if the person he was talking to was right next to him 10metres away or not there at all. This is the first rave SWIM has taken acid at instead of pills and will definetely be seaking out far more in the future. The ways in which SWIM became immersed in the music and atmosphere are unparralleled to anything he had ever experienced before.

[Pinkavvy]

The hoffmans are great.

The simpsons that swip has seen is DOI, and was sold as such to swip.

Most common active ingredients on blotters are (listed in order of most commonly found by swip): DOB, DOC, DOI, DOM, DON, ALD-52, Bromo-Dragonfly, LSD, 5meo-amt(not so much anymore), LSA alkaloids.

The most common "sandwich style" blotters active ingredients are: 2c-i, 2c-c, 2c-e, 2c-b, 2c-d, 2c-b-fly, aMT, 5-meo-mipt.

the most common "mescal" gell tabs are: 2c-e, 2c-i, tma-2, tma-6, aMT

the most commmon "psyillicibin" gell tabs are: 4-acetoxy-dipt, 4-ho-det, 2c-c

There you have it folks... swip has seen all of the products listed above sold in the blackmarket over the last couple years.

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[DrugPhreak]

Pinkavvy, what testing process was used to differentiate between the chemicals you listed?

[Pinkavvy]

Originally Posted by DrugPhreak

Pinkavvy, what testing process was used to differentiate between the chemicals you listed?

Swim is a persistant fucker. And is very known in the festival scene ... and when blotters are being sold swim investigates who they came from originally ... most of what I listed above was identified to swip by the person(s) laying/making the blotters.

[Herbal Remedy]

Originally Posted by Pinkavvy

Swim is a persistant fucker. And is very known in the festival scene ... and when blotters are being sold swim investigates who they came from originally ... most of what I listed above was identified to swip by the person(s) laying/making the blotters.

Its odd, but SWiHR is most comfortable getting his tabs from the festivals (usually a hippy who is a perfect stranger) rather than his buddies or acquantences elsewhere. SWiHR finds these helpful strangers to be very fair and honest, whereas he is more likely to get ripped off by people he does know (who treat LSD with the same respect they would any drug they are trying to get rid of). SWiHR knows that there is always gonna be bunk blotters going around, but they tend to stand out (as do their sellers) in these scenes.

Bonnaroo and Coventry treated SWiHR very well... When SWiHR was walking out of coventry, he saw the same guy who sold him the couple of hits he was on for the weekend (blotters with Blue, Black, and white cartoon designs on em, but couldnt make out the whole picture with only a couple tabs - but definitly LSD). He was the kind of guy who would only sell 4 or 5 hits to a person (not trying to sell strips, sheets, n all), which i was completly cool with. The guy came up to me and saw me smiling like crazy (between the lsd, being with so many friends, and seeing the last phish show, i felt like i was glowing).

He said, "Im really glad youre enjoying yourself, Here ya go" (hands SWiHR something)... "Just remember, it came from the Family, keep it in the Family". SWiHR hugged the guy and shared some words before departing the festival grounds. When SWiHR finally looked at the "package" his new friend gave him, he found 2 1/2 strips! SWiHR wishes he could repay the guy someway somehow, but felt he could keep the good karma going by letting some friends partake in the blotters and share in the good times...

SWiHR is looking forward to Bonnaroo, Greatfulfest, and 10,000 Lakes fest this summer! Thank god for the jambase music scene still being alive. sorry for the long post, sWiHR just loves the music, the lifestyle, and the culture, peace...

[java]

Note: Interjecting a comment which may not be related to the main topic of the thread, but relevant.

Too bad PharmChem can no longer do the testing and let the consumer know what was what and were it was sold...it was a good public service that protected the consumer if he/she felt the need to engage in taking drugs....(the good one's), until the feds felt it was a quality control for drug makers...who cares, it was a good service!.............maybe it should resurface again and provide the badly needed service to keep people from hurting themselves from bad drugs........................solo

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM forgot to ask something about the experience he had the other night with the hoffmans. SWIM had a kind of pins and needles feeling the whole night and for part of the next day all over the left side of his body. Especially in his left hand and left leg. What could be the cause of this? It caused SWIM no discomfort but he found it strange that it was only affecting one side of his body.

[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by psychedelaholic

SWIM forgot to ask something about the experience he had the other night with the hoffmans. SWIM had a kind of pins and needles feeling the whole night and for part of the next day all over the left side of his body. Especially in his left hand and left leg. What could be the cause of this? It caused SWIM no discomfort but he found it strange that it was only affecting one side of his body.

There are a few things that could be at play here. One is that your monkey could have had a stroke. Not that LSD can cause a monkey to have such - but you do want to ask a doctor (omitting the fact Chimper's took acid) to do a neurological evaluation. This is a strong suggestion to you and yours. A stroke can kill you - or leave you paralysed. Now get your monkey checked out so this possibility can be ruled out. If this was a calling-card announcing this, then be glad you caught it early. It is easily treatable if this were the case. Now why are you still reading this? GO!

[IntrepidTraveler]

Recently SWIM purchased 100 hits of blotter "Acid" from a new source. Having only experienced LSD from one other source, he is unsure whether this new source is supplying him LSD, DOB or some other psychadelic.

He's tried it once
He took five hits, and noticed several disconcerting details.
1) The blotters had a slight chemical/bitter taste to them, different than his usual LSD blotters but not very strong at all. He wasn't sure if the taste was just from using a different type of paper.
2) The onset was extended. Not the 2-4 hours suggested in the typical DOB literature, but certainly longer than his old acid. He noticed slight threshold effects at 45 minutes, and was completely tripping 90-120 minutes into it.
3) The trip lasted several hours longer than expected. SWIM typically tripped 11-13 hours on his old stuff regardless of dose. He probably went 15-16 on these.

SWIM thinks all of these details bare at least some resemblence to explanations for DOB, but he's still unsure because they do not match exactly.

The trip was very intense, SWIM certainly could not "function normally" as much of the literature on DOB suggests one can. However, the trip was very different. The hallucinactions were weaker than usual, but the trip going on in SWIM's head was very intense. He doesn't have many other reference points to compare the trip to, as he has only tripped on LSD several times with blotters he got from a single source.
Does anyone have any comments/ideas?

[Nature Boy]

Sounds very much like it might be DOB. It's difficult to be absolutely sure though. The trip descriptions sound very much like the trips SWIM was having off the batch of blotters that have been around for the past few months and he suspects that they might have been DOB as well. Bitter taste, slow come-up, different visual effects etc. LSD if more profound visually. Traces of the trip remain for the next few days. This doesn't seem to happen with DOB. Maybe try a simplistic bluelight test.

[Alicia]

swia had what she thought was lsd, until later she found that the tab had a bitter taste, she experienced visuals , she found mushrooms to be more visual so she assumed what she had was not lsd.

Also due to the duration of the trip. even when swia ate a couple more she had adorable ego-loss with visuals of a wrappy nature but non specific to lsd she was happy non the less but wonders if she'll ever come across the real thing.

[Nagognog2]

Good possibility of DOB. But it's sheer speculation. Try a blacklight test as suggested about - blacklight, not bluelight ab said above. Use the search engine for info on this. SWIM will thank you.

[grandbaby]

Yow, man, wouldn't one want to be sure of what one is getting before one blows a wad of money on it?

For anyone investing in larger amounts of LSD (or anyone who's a reasonably frequent tripper), someone I know recommends that one have both p-DMAB (aka Ehrlich's) reagent AND a Marquis test close by. Generally, those two tests should get you reasonably close to a positive identification (the blacklight will only tell you it's not LSD if it doesn't glow — if it does glow, it may be). One can obtain 'em quite cheaply. In't your peace of mind worth that much? Cheers.

[IntrepidTraveler]

That would certainly be preferable, but SWIM has limited opportunities for acquiring LSD and felt he had to take what he could get. SWIM is going to try the blacklight test.

[crazyeyes]

Before memorial day. SWIM has ingested "Acid" twice. The first time he took it SWIM got a body buzz, nothing else. The second time SWIM went kinda delirious for a bit. No visuals, not even any cool thought patterns. SWIM also has never gotten a good roll off of E swim's tried around a dozen pills, 3 pills at once got him a mild coke buzz. SWIM wanted to roll at DEMF (Detroit Electronic Music Festival, its a 3-day long rave in downtown Detroit). On sunday someone sold him 2 pills that were "PURE MDMA". Once again, barley anything. SWIM was royally pissed off until he ran into someone completly random who sold him a hit of acid (stupid move, but SWIM was angry). SWIM also bought 5 more pills from 2 different sources. Monday afternoon SWIM's thought process was "Acid's probably fake. Pills probably suck. SWIM should beat the odds by taking the 5 pills and the Acid all at once, at least one of the drugs HAS to work". Turns out that 2 of SWIM's friends (who have done MDMA a shitload more times then I have) were rolling balls from 1 hit. About an hour after ingesting SWIM notices the brick pavement had golden patterns swirling in it. After about another hour Detroits sky turns red and skyscrapers are changing shapes. SWIM's not quite sure when the E hit but swim was holding a "free hugs" poster 2 hours in. The entire outing was a blast. SWIM read somewhere that an acid trip doesn't last more then 12 hours. SWIM tripped until Noon of the next morning (about a 20 hour trip). Could the E have had something to do with it?

[trptamene]

One should think about the possibility of DOB as the active drug. It is active at the same "range" as LSD so it can be put on blotter. It's effects can act up to 20 hours and SWIM has seen blotter that was tested and showed DOB to be the active compound.

It looked like this:

[Shiacmkmleer]

Well It depends a lot. SWIS was at demf all three days. On Sunday from 1145am-12. Swis and his mates were very social. There were three people they ran into selling acid(more than once eg they were selling a lot). If you bought it from a HUGE guy in a red shirt your Shit out of luck. If you bought it from the weird kid who was crawling you were kosher.
Note mixing drugs can have effects that you wouldn't expect. SWISDK if candy flipping can last 20 hours... but when mixing drugs its possible.
Welcome to the forums and SWIS hopes you enjoyed DEMF (and he congratulates you on using “SWIM” in your fifth post!)

[tayo]

SWIM hasn't heard of DOB, but BR-DFLY (Bromo-DragonFLY) is often put on blotters and can last longer than LSD.

[rxbandit]

DOB as well as any DOx compound can last around 20 hours, it more likely that swiy got DOC or DOI as they are somewhat more legal then DOB. if swiy is interested he may want to research these chemicals in the phenethylamine forums in the research chemical group.

[beentheredonethatagain]

I know a guy who has had many a trip on cid last 24 hours. I wasn't peaking' I mean he wasn't peaking for that long of course but for sure his mouth was locked on smile for that long. My advise to a younger person than myself, never mix chemicals, other than pot or a lil beer, but taken lsd along with another " lab " product could have bad trip potentials , to say the least.