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Old 25-06-2010, 18:18
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After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

The question is all in the title. SWIM has finally stopped shooting heroin, however he will still use the IV ROA for other drugs (cocaine, amphetamines), but he does that now less than once a month. Once he is completely done with all IV drug use, do the marks ever go completely away? If so, approximately how long does it take?
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Old 25-06-2010, 18:25
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

swim believes it is quite dependenon the type of mark one has...

there are different types, some are just bloodclots (haematomas) that should go away in a few days, others could be scar tissue that buids up after repeated injuries to a certain tissues (scar ue can form from unresolved larger blood clots as well) and these tend to diminish with time, but some could stay on for a very long time....
Larger marks go away after longer periods.
Some areas of the body are more prone to healing than others, while some skin is more fragile/transparent.
Last but not least, genetics play a role. If in general one heals nicely, marks go away completly aster and easier. On the other hand, some people get scars from just bruising

So swim would say that most go away withing a couple of months, when speaking about small puncture wound marks left at common injection points. the ones that do not might just linger for years...

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Old 25-06-2010, 18:30
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

it depends on the person and the severity of their tracks, but for the most part swim thinks they do go away.

she says this because she knows some people who used to shoot in highly visible areas like the neck, and of course, the crook of the arm and they are almost impossible to see unless they are pointed out. this is after 5 to 10 years though.

also, swim isn't quoting any medical info online, so she's not claiming to know exactly how tracks fade, she's just giving her own eye witness info.

as far as time, when swim was shooting a lot in the arms, she had A LOT of tracks and they were highly visible. then she lost these veins completely and had to go to different areas. she didn't try using these again for about 5 years and they have almost completely disappeared. there is the scare tissue in the crook of the arms that is still visible (but again, only if someone looked carefully), a casual observer wouldn't notice them.

the only thing that wont go away, and swim is constantly kicking herself for this, is the scars she got from abcesses, she has several that look like a dime or nickel and they wont go away because the skin has died there and wont heal (that's what a doctor told her anyway) and it's now just scar tissue that has that shiny kind of look.
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Old 25-06-2010, 18:37
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

SWIM injected cocaine regularly and heroin a few times. He sometimes used really big needles that left nasty bruises. He never really used enough to develop scar tissue. He hasn't IVed in over six months and there are no clearly visible marks. He questions whether dots that you have to look really close to see are permanent scars. He's not really sure if this is just in his head but when he worked out his biceps or forearms they would be extremely sore. He doesn't think they get as sore anymore. Good luck my friend. I hope you and SWIM can beat this devastating habit.
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Old 25-06-2010, 19:33
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

Hey EOTW,

There's a good similar thread here from Dying Tomorrow: Will Doctors' Always be Able to Tell You were an IV Addict? which has some specfic estimates and personal experiences from other members.

The point here is the distinguishment between tracks and scars. Tracks are made up of needle holes which have coagulated & closed up and fade after a few weeks once you stop injecting. It's when you inject into the same area frequently, over a long period of time, that the skin will become scarred. Scarring can be permanent, although when they become faded, white marks, I sincerely doubt whether non-drug-users would be able to tell these were heroin-related.

There are actually several scar-treatments available, which claim to reduce scarring, and SWIM was once prescribed two such products by her G.P for track marks. The first is called 'dermatrix'. it's silicone gel for scar reduction. The second was a silicone patch which she had to wear for 2 hours a day, then 4, then 6, until she eventually wore it 24 hours a day, but SWIM never finished the treatment (ahem!). There are also products to reduce bruising, for those swimmers who are 'still in the midst'!

SWIM's track-marks remain visible (so far) two years after she stopped injecting. (See attachment!).
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Old 26-06-2010, 01:36
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

my cat thanks swicooki for the info.

she is also very curious how that silicone scar remover worked. she's always on the lookout for a good product to erase tracks, bumps and bruises and all the other weird marks she sometimes gets.

she saw a product in a store that said it removed old and new scars (or maybe scar isn't the right word to use) but basically any injury to the skin. however, it was almost $40 for a small jar and she couldn't afford to dish out the money on something like that without knowing if it would work or not.

any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 29-06-2010, 14:08
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

I've had decent luck with using generic (store-brand) "Mederma for Scars" on my fresher scars (I can be clumsy). I've heard it helps with tracks & stretch marks, too. It's supposed to also help fade older scars, but I've had the best luck with scars under a year or two old. Ones that are still pink, not faded to white. It's under $20 at the drugstore...I think the generic was about $10, but I don't remember for certain - one tube lasts a long while when one's scars are reasonably little.

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Old 29-06-2010, 15:38
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

Just thought SWIM could add in that vitamin E and jojoba oil are very good for healing scars, although he never used them for his track marks he has used them a lot for other scars and angry piercings!
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Old 29-06-2010, 15:53
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Re: After quitting, do track marks ever go away completely?

It's not the scars you can see that are gonna be a problem, it's the scarring that's happened internally. Veins become thrombosed, they get ropey and hard, and having blood work done becomes a nightmare. And this damage is not reversible.



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Edited using info out of post, apologies.

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