Combinations - Ketamine + PCP or Methylone

[DrugPhreak]

XXis wondering if SWIXhas mixed PCP with Ketamine before... if so XX would like to hear from those that did. XX also heard that doing a K-Hole dose two hours into the Methylone is amazing. Nothing can be found on Erowid or this forum. XX will bee doing both soon, but would like to hear from any SWIXs that have also tried this.

[daeron]

well swim had this friend, swim is sure that everyone has one like
this, who liked to prove things. like that hes the crazyest MF
around,etc. So swim and his friend IMed some K after doing meth and the
firend wanted to do PCP, so he also swallowed a pill w unknown amount,
and IMed again a smaller amount. 3hrs later 3 people needed to lay on
his back to keep him from punching holes in every mirror in the house
because "the watchers", whatever that means.

sounds interesing. swim would recomend if swidp really wants to mix it
w something, let it be methylone, since swim finds the pcp a rather
unrewarding substance if done by it self.

[DrugPhreak]

XX only has a little bit of PCPright now (~30mg), but from the trip reports they've read it's not as scary as the powers that bee have made it seem... especiallywhen an appropriate dose is consumed. <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urnchemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by DrugPhreak

XXis wondering if SWIXhas mixed PCP with Ketamine before... if so XX would like to hear from those that did. XX also heard that doing a K-Hole dose two hours into the Methylone is amazing. Nothing can be found on Erowid or this forum. XX will bee doing both soon, but would like to hear from any SWIXs that have also tried this.

You need less K than usual if you have taken methylone before hand-- and you remember a bit more than with K by itself. The down side is that after you 'come back' from your K-hole, the residual numbness conmined with the residual stimulation of the methylone is a bit tedious.

[DrugPhreak]

180mg Methylone + 200mg Ketamine (insufflated)?Edited by: DrugPhreak

[Alfa]

Two of SWIA's friends have had disasterous reactions to PCP. While everything went very well on previous occasions one of them lost a piece of the evening and woke up from that black hole while strangling someone in an elevator andthe othergot psychotic agressive episodes from PCP. Both do not dare to touch PCP again. These friends of SWIA barelyknow each other. Their accounts have made SWIA loose all interest in experimenting with PCP.

[DrugPhreak]

XX is thinking about throwing it away. Although,that would bee drug abuse in their opinion.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by DrugPhreak

180mg Methylone + 200mg Ketamine (insufflated)?

If the K is pure, you might not need that much. Maybe only 100 mg or
so, but it's a matter of taste I suppose. It might be better to enjoy
the methylone high first!

[DrugPhreak]

It's U.S.P, but this person changed their mind... K seems to have some annoying after/side effects and it really doesn't cause any type of enhancement like otherpsychedelics do... XX doesn't understand how it got classified as such. This will bee their first time rolling with Methylone... looking forward to it.

[enquirewithin]

Ketamine is not really classified psychedelic, its a dissociative
anaesthetic, so maybe XX got mixed up!. It is not really known for
sensory enancement as such as it produces out of body
experiences, which most psychedelics are incapable of doing (except
perhaps some short acting tryptamines). It is much more of a
'hallucinogen' than LSD.

[DrugPhreak]

The person that took some still feels like crap. They think it should be reclassified as "a good way to get a headache and feel abnormal for a few days".

[nanobrain]

^its a dissociative alright...dont like the lot of 'em, personally.

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Both PCP and ketamine are dissociative
anaesthetics. Combining the two leads to the very real
possibility of an overdose, wherin SWIM "forgets" to breathe.
Effects of the two are very similar, with the PCP being much stronger
mg for mg than ketamine.



I would say that if you are fortunate enough to have a supply of both on-hand, use each one separately on different occasions.

[snapper]

PCP and ketamine are both NMDA antagonists and do the same thing,
which means the two together would just cause a greater degree of
anesthesia.
SWIM is biased against PCP because SWIMs PCP accidents when younger
were amongst the worst drug experiences of SWIMs life. Never really got
the appeal of ketamine either, but it is a far better, and safer, way to go. I
would toss the PCP, and I would not consider drug abuse. Rather, you are
potentially sparing yourself some abuse.
Remember, you don't hear about people going psycho on K very often,
but you do with PCP.

Snapper

[DrugPhreak]

Yeah, the PCP is gone. 10mg of PCP was insufflated and the rest was given away.This person thought they wouldn't like dissociatives, but they wantedto verify this. It did feel like ketamine, but this person was getting hot and almost felt like they had a fever. They must havestared at their monitor for a couple of hours and walking wassomewhat difficult. Similar lingering after effects that where felt with the ketamineare stillpresent... very annoying.This person’s chest fells weird like if there is pressure on it... maybe that's from the methylone though. Dissociatives will never be done again... this person will stick with stimulants/psychedelics. <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urnchemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by DrugPhreak

The person that took some still feels like crap. They think it should be reclassified as "a good way to get a headache and feel abnormal for a few days".

K certainly has a hangover, but I've never noticed a headache.

[DrugPhreak]

It was more like a stuffiness/sinus-type headache and just an overall feeling of not feeling right. Basically the same thing was felt with the PCP. No aggression whatsoever was experienced after the PCP was consumed though... in fact they felt the opposite way. Just 10mg was really weird... it must be like the K-Hole or close to it. Because of the physicalafter effects this person doesn't think it's worth doing these... one time is enough for them.

[Barret VII]

How long did the after effects last?

[DrugPhreak]

Like 2-3 days with the K and alittle over a day with the PCP. SWIDP ate 2gm of shrooms last night and after the trip was over they felt even better. Possibly, psilocybin/psilocin has the ability to re-regulate whatever chemical imbalance the dissociatives caused. Edited by: DrugPhreak