Combinations - Benzodiazepines and Marijuana

[Politicalchalk]

Hey Buddy,

marijuana is tough to classify. Among many others, It has psychedelic effects (it's primary psychological effects), stimulant effects (it stimulates your GI system, causing the munchies, as well as stimulating creativity). It also has depressant effects (often produces a calming effect which may lower heart rate and blood pressure). These are just examples. Swim's point: it's tough to classify. Many people use marijuana for no other reason than for it's anxiolytic (anxiety lessening) effect.

Anxiolysis is the primary indication lorazepam. It is also used for sleep. In a hospital setting, there are a few more uses too.

Combining the two should not really have any serious negative side effects, esp. if swiy is familiar with the effects of both drugs. Swim's seen a friend fall asleep right quick on 2mg lorazepam. He took the whole dose at once, and had no tolerance at all to benzodiazepines.

The dog is on 2mg, 3 times a day (he gets pretty manic without it). He's smoked pot while on lorazepam and has noticed nothing significant enough to mention except that, a long day of tokin' leads to a long night of sleepin'...

Just be aware of the effects of each drug before combining in general, for anything. These are 2 pretty innocuous substances (when used in realistic doses), that is to say, they're more or less harmless. If one exceeds the prescribed dose, or does nothing all day but smoke gravity bongs, THAN there's dependancy issues (either psych or physical for the benzo).

But a toker with a bottle of ativan can be a good thing. It can calm you down if your scared, help you sleep if you can't because you're Sooo stoooned, or in low doses of each, to help center yourself.

But to summate, it is reasonably healthy to combine 1.5mg lorazepam with the occasional few tokes in a day. Just don't combine them every time, as when one component becomes unavailable, the other may not work as well.

No other substances? Should be all good!

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim's cat finds that the two are an wonderful combo, supplementing and amplifying each others effects nicely

[darkbreed]

The only thing regarding benzos and marihuana SWIM has noticed is that it make SWIM more stoned. And these days it is the only way SWIM can smoke some marihuana in any case, if he smokes it without benzos he gets all paranoid and panic attacked and what not. Strange thing, but he thinks the reason for this is messing around too much with exstacy some years ago, as this never was a problem before the exstacy period. SWIM do not smoke any longer in any case though so that is not a problem, SWIM tends to get extremely stoned and knocked out barely knowing where he is when smoking now and just has to go to bed or somewhere to pass out - even from just a couple small hits from a joint. Another strange thing that didnt use to happen before. OH well

[darkbreed]

The other day SWIM ate some lorazepam (he is not used to this benzo and only had it once many years ago - actually he think it must been something different as he got it from someone, but this time it was prescribed by a doctor and generic brand)

He ingested 5mg. Then he went out with his girl, had a dinner, drank some beer and champagne, and got TOTALLY wasted! This is very uncommon for SWIM, he can usually take a lot of benzos mixed with a lot of stuff and alochol and still stay "on his feet". But it seems lorazepam, for SWIM, is a powerful benzo despise his high general benzo tolerance.

He cant remember much of how he got home, but he passed out in bed with clothes on and woke up the day after with angry girlfriend

So, apparently , mixing lorazepam with alcohol is not a good thing for swim.

On the other hand, it seems lorazepam is a good benzo for swim even in lower doses like a tablet or two (of he 2.5mg ones) as he gets them prescribed.

This is great for SWIM as he's had a problem with his huge benzo tolerance and is these days testing new benzos to see if their effects are satisfying and gorilla-doses are not needed. So far, it seems trying new never before tried benzos is the trick for SWIM, so he is currently on a new plan with his doc to change his old benzos for a period with these new ones, and change regularly with various benzos, using some over shorter time and now and then change to new ones, as this seem so far to be helping in reducing tolerance and dependency.

[purplehaze]

Phaze sees no harm in combining marijuana with benzos, none any further than benzos already have.

Phaze reports(on lorazepam+weed) that he has experimented with this on many occasions and concludes that its best used as a sleep aid over recreational value, its no fun to feel drained sleepy and want to lay down.

In Phazes opinion, combining marijuana with any drug is not going to cause anymore harm than the drug itself, even if it does intensify the effects adding marijuana is not going to determine it lethal.

[darkbreed]

SWIM is not big fan of marihuana, it leaves him with a strange kinda hangover the day after, somewhat dizzy, hard to describe. Kinda when doing too much benzos the day before. Unpleasent, besides SWIM dosnt really enjoy the effects of mary much.

[kaczynski]

SWIM has used xanax and weed separately, but is wondering if anyone has had any worthwhile experiences using both together. It seems like the weed would just drown out the effects of the xanax...

[fiveleggedrat]

At low doses, allows for less paranoia/more calm.

Regular doses of alprazolam + weed = amnesia/memory problems/difficulting integrating memory.

Not recommended at bigger doses.

Worth giving a shot. They mix decently.

[ihavequestions]

SWIM was also wondering about this combo. swim has heard lots of good things about using both.

swim was wondering though, weed for swim is very intense and overwhelmingly dreamy and is intense enough to make him lie down for the first 30 mins after smoking so wait for the peak to pass before doing anything. this intensity also makes him very anxious. and was wondering if maybe a 2mg dose of xanax an hour before smoking up would take away the intensity and the anxiety of it all. or is 2mg too high of a dose?

[fiveleggedrat]

depends on what 2mg does to you.

2mg makes swim amnesiac and drunk.

1mg makes him calm.

take whatever makes you calm.

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thanks for the help

[dark12]

In SWIM's experience, they are one of the best combos out there.
SWIM usually takes 1mg of alprazolam subglingually before smoking and he feels much more calm and upbeat. Paranoia is almost a non-issue and he doesn't get depressed like usual when he smokes. Try it out, but start with a lower dose of alprazolam than swiy usually does.

[Buncubis]

Ahhhh yes Sin pops a bar, and then follows with a bowl of potent smelling ganja. Sin enjoys this for it takes away all the anxiety, and negative self analyzing thoughts that race through Sins head with the herb alone. Also knocks down all those paranoid feelings. So yes its a five star rating combination.

[kaczynski]

how much is a bar? 2mgs?

[Buncubis]

Yeppers you are correct a bar=2mg. Which is way to much if you've never taken xanax before. You will feel like your legs are made of jello, and prob wake up unable to remember what happened before you fell asleep. Once Sin took to many and woke up to a police officer knocking on his window as he was passed out in his car at a house of pancakes. He drove sin home, and when he woke up for work later that day he thougth hir car was stolen, and called the police to file a report. Sin then called his girlfriend to tell her about stolen car, and was informed "no jackass its sitting at the house of pancakes" Not one of sins better moments in life

[xenon27]

Its a nice combo but can be overwhelming. swim once took 3 mg and smoked about 2 grams of quality marijuana and got outstanding euphoria as well as a nod that reminded swim of opiates. Swims friend stated " I don't think i can walk" swim said don't be stupid yes you can. He got up and fell flat on his face as if someone kicked him from behind. powerful combo not to be taken lightly.

[dark12]

Originally Posted by xenon27

Its a nice combo but can be overwhelming. swim once took 3 mg and smoked about 2 grams of quality marijuana and got outstanding euphoria as well as a nod that reminded swim of opiates. Swims friend stated " I don't think i can walk" swim said don't be stupid yes you can. He got up and fell flat on his face as if someone kicked him from behind. powerful combo not to be taken lightly.

haha,
Well with that dose what would one expect?

[Juko]

Small doses of Xanax with lots of pot gave swim an astounding reaction. Like others have said, swim had no paranoia or racing thoughts

However...

When swim was prescribed xanax he remembers taking four miligrams and smoking a blunt and woke up the next morning with out a clue of what happened. stricken with fear of the unknown events that took place what they may have been, he took 1 mg to calm down. his girlfriend said after he put the blunt out he walked up stairs where he passed out and his girl left early. thank god i didn't do anything stupid.

SWIM's opinion on cannabis benzo combos is as follows,"I feel Clonazepam (klonopin) is less amneisic than alprozalam at high doses (relative to prescribed doses) and the synergy is better appreciated if it is remembered afterwards. However, smaller doses do not go as far as alprozalam. 1 mg of klonopin really won't be distinguishable on top of bud where as 1 mg of alprozalam is. Benzo's are tricky."

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Good points.

[randomorwhat]

Originally Posted by kaczynski

SWIM has used xanax and weed separately, but is wondering if anyone has had any worthwhile experiences using both together. It seems like the weed would just drown out the effects of the xanax...

SWIM has always enjoy mixing benzos and marijuana, however finds valium and temazepan to be far more enjoyable than a cross with xanax. However, the xanax does eliminate any worry or concern which some people have reported when smoking bud.

Watch your doses and, as ever, be careful.

[Spare Chaynge]

As with any drug combination this one should be started using very small amounts..

Swim recommends .25mg of alprazolam and between .1 and .2 of marijuana..For starters

This combination will decrease your ability to function do not take it lightly.

Any time a combination with benzos is done.. Remember to not re dose. Black outs are a very common result.

A result of long term benzo and marijuana usage may be the ability not to enjoy marijuana at all with out benzos due to paranoia caused by marijuana in some situations.

Swim is currently unable to enjoy or use marijuana because he frequently abused alprazolam and other benzos while smoking pot... Now he freaks out... The relative lack of "control" is to much for him.

As usual fiveleggedrat has given very good advice and swim seconds this.

Some swims say they highly enjoy this combination and in low doses it might be enjoyable.. But as the dosage of benzos increases people tend to wake up thinking that all there pot was stolen when in reality it was smoked mindlessly.

[randomorwhat]

Originally Posted by Spare Chaynge

A result of long term benzo and marijuana usage may be the ability not to enjoy marijuana at all with out benzos due to paranoia caused by marijuana in some situations.

Swim is currently unable to enjoy or use marijuana because he frequently abused alprazolam and other benzos while smoking pot... Now he freaks out... The relative lack of "control" is to much for him.

Interesting. This user has heard a lot about the 'prang' with marijuana, however has yet to experience it, despite messing around with benzos while smoking fairly large quantities.

[Horiz]

Xannies and grass is one of SWIM's favorite combos.

He seems to have a natural tolerance to benzos however, so takes 4mg and about a half gram of bud for an anxiety and inhibition free trip.

[Spare Chaynge]

What is prang?

[randomorwhat]

Prang = worry, perhaps what Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas simply called "the fear".

[CaptainDex]

SWIM was considering taking 1 or 2 Clonazepam (at 0.5mg per) and smoking some high quality Marijuana (18-20% THC content). Anyone know what the trip will be like? Also SWIM is considering throwing in 50-100mg of Diphenhydramide, safe or not?

[klonopinz]

kpin-z cereal mysteriously (and randomly) spelled out:

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A very relaxed trip. Probably no paranoia at all, maybe swiy'll take away some of the more mental euphoria and have more of a body high while feeling very mellow.
1 mg of clonazepam + 100mg of diphenhydramine + any amount of bud is safe, yes, unless particularly sensitive to either of them. For best noticeable effects (an not your first time with them) take clonazepam, then after 40 minutes take diphenhydramine, and 15-20 mins after hit the bowl every 3-4 mins until desired high achieved... Oh yeah, utse, and welcome.
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