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Have noticed them both (herb & benzo's)synergize very well. When I smoke herb while on benzo's I get very mellow and happy. Even get an almost energetic buzz towards the beginning of the expereince. Before the heavyness of the tranq's kicks in.... I also get very motivated and creative on this combination. I don't think many get these effects from this combo, but I do.
ooo i love the combo, this is a also something i orignally experimented with because one my friends got real anxious when he blazed, and it pissed everyone else off so we would slip him klonopins or put it in the bowl.... we told him, he wasnt mad, myself i love it as long the weed you smoke is a deffinate downer, some strains of weed almost give you a slight upper feeling, when i take benzos (klonopin or xanax) with my weed it makes the physical high (body high) much more intense... such as many thai weeds have strong body highs almost shroomish in feeling but milder of course, with a weed like that a xanax bar or 2 or 3...... is great!
Yeah man I love this combo too. I've tried valium + weed and klonopin + weed. For me, its not a high you want if your starting you day, and going somewhere, cuz it really chills me out. Zero to no paranoia with this combo. its sweet, all i gotta say. Would any1 know the safety factors behind mixing these two together, benzos and marijuana? thx
So SWIM was just perscribed valium. SWIM only took it once before, so this
time SWIM only took 5mg (very low dose) and then smoked 2 bowls. It was
the best high SWIM ever had. Usually SWIM gets a little anti social and
nervous after smoking, but this was the complete opposite! SWIM felt good,
relaxed and could think clearly. SWIM was talking up a storm, too.
Anyway, great combo and I will be doing this again many many times.
So if you were "just prescribed" Valium (and are therefore presumably Benzo Naive) then 5mg is not such a "very low dose". Where SWIM is 2mg tds (3 X daily) is a standard dose for anxiety in the short term. Valium (and other benzos) are great: They make you feel relaxed, cocooned, walm, calm, etc. etc. They can also reduce the threshold at which you hallucinate with dope. They are also (as others have pointed out in other threads) great at dealing with the unwanted effects of stimulants.
For SWIM, they are just too good to have around. SWIM has never had a benzo habit but she has had several points in her life when she has thought "This is too easy, I'm not going to take them for a while".Benzo's are very easy to have around, they're very easy to take when you feel wired, or need to sleep or because they seem to enhance the effects of other drugs. They can also be very problematic (= dangerous) with alcohol.
Well i just started gettin vallies (diazepam) i have NO tollerance and when stoned 3 or 4 will knock me out, (5mg each) i took 10 overall last night and got knocked out twice, so maybe 5 or 10 mg is enough for you now (mixed with pot and maybe a glass of wine or something
Yeah, I do have really bad social anxiety, though. It's hard because I
do like to abuse drugs but at the same time the lower doses help me
with my anxiety. It rids me of my restless body, paranoid thoughts, and
allows me to talk to people with ease.
I'm only allowing myself 10mg a day so I don't run out. Hopefully all goes well.
Rescently swim ate 2 10's after drinking about 5 drinks then after
about 3 more drinks snorted another 10, It was OK. they havea
lower tolerance to opiates i guess. they expected some kind of euhporia
but all they got was a relaxed state and drunk. Getting out of bed the
next day was hard as fuck.. and oh yea.. diaezepam aparently lasts a
long time on a regular dose.. so they are probly going to be in this
calmed state for a few days. guess since they dont suffer any kind of
anxiety or stress that benzos are just boring.
i love to mix benzos and weed, even in small quantitys for that reason im somewhat anxious and anti social when blazed. but if i take a xanibar or a few klonapins (im prescibed librium now sucks, but used to get klonapin and ativans) i feel great, i dont like to use too much benzo with weed cuz then i just get too tired.... I have high tolerance so I'll take maybe 15-20 mg of klonapin and smoke a few bowls, or maybe a xanibar (for some reason I'm sensative to lipid soluable benzos like xanax and valium) or maybe 10mg of valium... its great
I have to agree that some bud with xanax ( after a tolerance has built up) . It can inhance the euphoria when xanax doesn't work as well as it used to. On a few occasions after taking xanax and being let down with the affects a couple tokes can really kick it in.
I like to do about 15 mg of valium along with a few shots of good whiskey. Then smoke alot of hash. It feels almost like you're floating on some morphine, great combination. I did this two days ago. Lasted all afternoon, and i fell asleep like a baby. The next morning (14 hours after i took it) i woke up still fucked up.
And it lasted a good 1.5 hours of that day before i started coming down. I dont understand the fuss about benzos and alcohol. I always drink a few shots to make the benzo stronger.
The "fuss" about benzos and alcohol is that they both can cause respiratory depression, and when combined have an synergistic effect. Most benzo users do combine the two, but SWIM will always stress that this is a potentially LIFE THREATENING situation: You're talking choking on your own vomit territory.
Seeing as there is only minimal (if any0 respitory supression wih ketamine at a reacreational dose, would it be ok to have some K after some valium and weed?
SWIM was talking to an anaesthetist about ketamine today: He was of the opinion that ket causes quite a bit more respiratory depression than it's given credit for. She's only done ket a couple of times (and is therefore is by no means an expert) and can therefore offer no comment. Except:
"Recreational by what route?"
Ketamine definitely does cause incremental resp depression, particularly by im/iv route. She would be of the opinion that 2 resp depressants are asking for trouble.
SWIM finds that benzo effects only come on to him when he smokes Bud.
Alcohol does nothing but make him feel drunk and a slight feeling of the benzos.
Weed + Benzos Makes him totally blissed out. Swim has an anxiety + Panic Disorder and even with his anti anxiety med Weed gives him terrible anxiety.
When he has some benzos and some weed, he is the most relaxed he has ever been! No anxiety at all! A totally great euphoria. Kinda reminds him of the first time he started smoking weed
Oh on respiratory depression, SWIM has had Temazes, Vals, Oxys, Propoxyphene, Alcohol, Codeine, Weed all that the same time. And still breathed to tell the tale. SWIM breathes the same as he would anyother time!
Personally i wouldnt recommend this combo to chronic weed smokers, it really enhances your high and you'll end up craving the combo high each time you just get stoned. benzo's are seriously addictive, take this into carefull concideration when you start doing this. Swim only smokes weed like once a month, but since he discovered xanax he wont even think about smoking weed alone.
Lorazepam (ativan) and marijuana's effect on health?
SWIM has been doing some research on if there is any health risk when taking lorazepam and marijuana. So far there has been limited information on this subject. SWIM has only found that marijuana could slightly increase the effects of other drugs but SWIM wants to know if there is any serious risk. SWIM knows the danger of mixing alcohol and benzo's but does smoking possibly create a similar interaction?
SWIM is prescribed 1.5mg of lorazepam and also enjoys toking daily. If anyone has any further information it would be appreciated.