Getting some morning glory

Ah, hell yea I'm waiting for 3000 morning glory seeds to arrive in the mail sometime this week.


Happy tripping to all!

[Mellow_natts]

Some general information on morning glories:


Morning Glory seeds contain an alkaloid called lysergic acid amide (LSA) which is related to lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD).

You can find Morning Glorys at almost any store that sells seeds has the morning glory flower is very beautiful and makes a wonderful addition to a garden. However be careful as some supply companies will treat their seeds with a toxin to prevent their uses as a psychoactive. In Canada law states that treated seeds must be lable so clearly and the seeds themselves must be dyed another colour, I don't think these laws apply in the U.S. Regardless some brief rinsing with dish soap will take care of that problem.

There are different varieties of morning glories but those that contain the largest amount of alkaloids are Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates, and Flying Saucers. There is another seed which contains LSA which I prefer called Hawaiin Baby woodrose (I'll explain why in a sec) but these are somewhat more difficult to find.

To use the seeds, some people swear by an extraction method which definitely has it's perks, however it requires petroleum ether which most of us don't have lying around. Others say that simply swallowing the seeds does the trick. Personally the I find that with the lack of ether, simply grind the seeds and put them into a shot glass and poor some high proof (80-100) over top and let it stand for a few seconds and then drink.

Dose vary greatly with some people feeling threshold effects with as little as 50 seeds. Most however say 200-400 seeds is ideal, while personally I have found it to be more like 500. Each individual is different so I'd start small and work your way up to a comfortable dose. With Hawaiin Baby Woodrose only 10-20 seeds are needed.

Be prepared to experience some pretty awful nausea. Some people get it, some get it a little and some people don't get it at all. It usually only lasts at the beginning of the trip and fades away soon after. A little marijiuana is usually enough to settle your stomach. There is a myth that circulates among LSA users about a chemical located within the skin of the seed which causes this nausea. Some say that if you strape the outshell off (do able with Hawaiin Woodrose but damn near impossible with morning glory) that you will not get naysea. People argue back and forth over this saying that no chemical isolation of this mystery alkaloid has ever been done and others argue that if it works it works. I'll let you decide if you want to go through the trouble of straping the seeds.

As for the trip itself, Its most easily discribed as a mild LSD trip. So say they felt nothing but nausea others say they felt only a little change in perseption. With my experience, my girlfriend once woke up to me scrubing the walls of the room with a toothbrush. Generally the trip last for about 6-8 hours peeking within the first 3.

[Mangey_Olde_Qat]

I seed dis in erowid i wunner ifn it werks 4 mg/hbwr?


EXTRACTION OF Datura ALKALOIDS via an oil solvent. (from JIMSONWEED)

STEP #1 Grind seeds into a fine pulp, used 1500 mg seed. (Approx. 200 seeds.)

STEP #2 Placed 1500 mg seed pulp into test tube.

STEP #3 Pour enough olive oil into tube to make the entire contents of test tube = 7 ml (this includes seed pulp and olive oil.)

STEP #4 Shake contents of test tube.

STEP #5 Let sit for 2 days. Note: after shaking the mixture for just a few seconds the oil becomes cloudy and after shaking 3 more times and letting sit for 20 min. the oil darkens considerably.

Notes on the next day-
day1 After the extract sits over night the seed pulp settles to the bottom of the oil, the oil will look clear, but there seems to be another oil layer settled on top of the seed pulp which is dark brown in color, it is possible that this layer of liquid could be the water content of the seeds or it could be an oil contained in the seeds with a density greater than the olive oil used for this extraction, when shaken these two liquids mix and will color the olive oil a darkish brown color.

Notes on day 2: The olive oil had a darkish color to it, the lower liquid layer was not as evident as it was the day before but was still there.

STEP #6 Use vacuum filtration to filter the oil from the seed pulp. (you will need to apply a vacuum or this step will take forever!)

STEP #7 Wash test tube with 2ml fresh olive oil and vacuum filter this through the seed pulp.

Note: end product = 6ml It was a cloudy yellow color.

Use of this product: Apply 2ml of oil to any area where there is a high concentration blood vessel near the surface of the skin. (In the male this would be the penis and in the female the vagina) noticeable effects will begin in about 25 min. it will peak in approx. 2 hours after application. There was slight Dis-orientation, slight visual hallucinations, and slight audio hallucination. After 9 1/2 hours there is still noticeable effects with some visual effects still noticeable, Dis-orientation has cleared up but a noticeable detachment to reality is still evident, during this time there was a noticeable dryness of the mouth but not really uncomfortable.

Day after application. There were some slight effects the following day for approx. 6 hours then subsided.

[sands of time]

Make sure you try the extract first. Eating them will make you sick.

[Mellow_natts]

Again, this sickness is highly suspect as there is to date no physiological explanation for this sickness.

[RoboCop]

Yea i tried 100 seeds by just chewing them all i got was a sick feeling to my stomach i really want to achieve the trip from these but all the extraction methods seem like to much work whats the easiest method of use? And if it uses patroleum where can i get some? Either post here or send to Fight4Salvia@Yahoo.com

[BA]

They advertize in HIGH TIMES. LSA from woodrose, and morning glory were produced by the following methods:



<UL type=disc>
<LI>Grind seeds.
<LI>Mix seeds with same amount gram for Ml. in water.
<LI>Place in blender.
<LI>Blend on low for 3 hours (to make sure the fats are dissolved).
<LI>Add oil solvent.
<UL type=disc>
<LI>Using Zippo Fulid is good, if you get the right kind.
<LI>I use the white label from Sears. Napatha.
<LI>You should evaporate to test. </LI>[/list]<LI>Blend for time according to amount of total material.
<LI>Separate, using syringe, or other ingenious method.
<LI>Be sure to recover all solvent.
<LI>Add acid. Acetic, Hcl, any, really. I use vineger.
<LI>Add one part acid to to two thirds solution.
<LI>Blend.
<LI>Add a little more acid (one part per five of the solution or so).
<LI>Blend.
<LI>Place in Crock pot and heat on low for one hour.
<LI>Strain and consume.
<LI>You may also add solvent to the mixture while in the last blender step, but strain it first to throw the seeds away. You may use any equiptment to check the efficentcy of the first oil extracton. </LI>[/list]

I have done this on many occasions, to make belivers of my friends.

[RoboCop]

Man that all seems like to much toruble to go through, is the trip really worth it or should i stick to chugging dxm?

[Mellow_natts]

most people who are serious about what it is that psychoactives can show them, don't see it as trouble. As well if you are constantly 'chugging' dxm, you goin to wind up in some trouble.

[RoboCop]

Yes I am very serious and into a trip but whats the chance i go through this extraction process and it doesnt have any effect? or is it pretty constant? I'm thinking of doing what 300-400 seeds?

[RoboCop]

Oh yea and for the equipment impaired such as myself could i just use any container such as a cup rather than a test tube?

[RoboCop]

Oh and another thing does applieng it the skin really work? is it ok to just drink it? or would the nasea effect be alot worse?

[thydarkprevails]

well...2 hours ago i ingested 6 grams of morning glory heavenly blue...pretty damn amazing..i dont know how i'm typing right now...and i have not felt sick at all

[Beaner]

If u want to get a full on LSA trip try 7-8 Hawian baby wood rose seeds, extremly f*cked up!

[BA]

You got it Beaner, HBWR are far better than MG's


BA

[RoboCop]

Hmm well can you buy HBWR seeds in stores? or anywhere other than the net? if so where?

[BA]

Robo, they're still legal in thr US so you should be able to. You might want to try a nursey if you can't find them in stores, they'll order them for you. They run about $5 per 100 or about 10 grams for $30 to 35 more or less


Try wally first


BA

[RoboCop]

K thank alot, im going to go look for some right now =)

[Sparky Mountain]

Howdy. I have two season's worth of MG seeds. I've not given up on the either, but no way am I using lighter fluid unless I have to. I'm not a chemist and the thought of eating something that stewed in a petroleum product scares me (paranoia or realitybased?) Here's my questions; Can I make an extraction strong enoughso that I can eyedropper out a dose? The dose being about a 4 or 5 hour journy? Is the purpose of the extraction just to prevent nausea?Is the seed in shot glass of alcohol enough to get out the strichnine?


It was Aldous Huxley, in a book I read, many years ago, whointroduced me to morning glory seeds. And now my yard is covered with beautiful vines. The desert is yielding up more mysteries. The earth is continueing to nourish our development.This websight encouragesa safe passagethrough the sharing of knowledge and feedback.

[pabel_giboon]

SWIM has never been able to get rid of the nausea by non-extraction methods, and the nause can become really horrible on 400+ seeds. Extraction seems to be the only way to separate the alkaloid from an oil in the seeds that produce the nausea. If you are lucky you migt not get nausea. SWIM usually keeps some medicine close for the stomach, since lately he culdn`t even help vomiting before getting hight enought. Maybe it´s teh brew of the seeds. SWIM usually has a very hard stomach for things like cacti. so, any suggestions beside extraction?

[swanprincess75]

We have tried MG a few times and also experienced some pretty severe stomach cramping at around 200 seeds. We do let them soak in water for 24hrs but it's really a waste of time. Last time we did MG, we each took 2 gravol's roughly 60mins before taking the seeds and felt great. Stomach was a little upset but but no where near as bad as without the gravol!!Due to the fatigue caused from the gravol, we were able to sleep in 4-5 hrs and had incrediable dreams!!

[oldman]

not familiar with gravol or even what it does could you elaborate. I've done petroleum either extraction several times and have injested 400 seeds once in juice. THe extraction is really not hard. You can get pet ether at any good paint store it is also sold as VM&P Naptha. 2 days is usually enough time for the ether to evaporate out but 3 will definately do it if it makes you nervous. Do not expose the powder to light or excessive heat as they will hurt lysergides. Then put in everclear shaking once or twice a day for 3-4 days, strain and drink up. I've done 400-500 seeds several times like this and the only nausea I had was the thought that I would have nausea, which I didn't.


Another time I wanted to try, after reading several reports, the seeds undistilled in juice. I ground about 400 seeds in the coffee grinder put i a bout 16 ounces of fruit juice and drank. I got a good bit of nausea and a terrible sore throat. I did get a bad case of the flu following this. I was feeling the buzz but the flu symptoms seemed to just be exagerated and very unpleasant. I thought God was playing a trick on me and all kinds of crazy shit. Sex was impossible. I don't know if this method had anything to do with the flu and I don't care to find out, I'm going back to the old way from now on.

[Alquimista]

SWIM has tried most of the extractions and administration versions. SWIM's advice - grind them up, put into a yoghurt (spelling) and eat up. eat sam raw ginger also if possible, or have a joint ready (one or two puffs and the nause vanishes). no matter what you do you will still have nausea - no extraction isnt gonna prevent it.

[pabel_giboon]

HI there, you say SWIA says you cannot get rid of nausea by any means. SWIA menand not totally? or just not at all? Beacuse extraction is said to leave low yields +-60%. So that´s a thing to care. Could you explain better about Ginger?

[KYLESUCKS]

Lucky me ive found several patches of Morning glory growing around town
like semi-wild. the plants are huge but most of the seed pods are high
up and i cant get them without pulling down vines and i only got a
handfull of seeds to show for it so i said screw it. however i recently
heard that OTHER parts of this plant also contain LSA... like the vines
and leaves?? could i perform an extraction on these parts and recieve
anything worthwhile? maybe someones tried this before?