XTC testing kits to test Research Chemicals?

[pancyan]

Is it possible to use any of the following reagents to test
research chems?



Mecke Reagent, Simon’s reagent and Marquis Reagent






Where can I find the expected results?




Thanks.

[radiometer]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...its.shtml#tell

Reputation Comments on this post:

I love your signature man!

[nanobrain]

i have tested most things around the lab and the house with Marquis and Mandelin.

methylone and cousins, many of the 2C-s, all tryptamines produce a reaction of note, if one is observant of nuances, accurate record may be assembled.

as a first defence / ID measure (ie you spaced what powder is what) the 2 tests mentioned are accurate enough to tell what class you are dealing with.

[grandbaby]

BUMP

and Nanobrain, I don't suppose you kept logs of what the reactions were, did you? I'd like to begin compiling in one place, for the benefit of members & all humankind, how common (and not so common) RCs react with various reagents. Once I got enough data I'd make a nice easy-to-read chart & post it ... & keep updating.

As of right now, the Erowid chart linked to by radiometer is the best we have, though it hardly reflects the substances that are most in circulation right now. (Particularly in regards to the highly potent stuff that people are trying to pass off on blotters as "acid.") I'll keep digging here & on other forums & post what I find; I seem to recall a BL member had done some systematic testing, but I can't find it just at the moment....

Anyone with information, please come forward & send me your results via PM or posting. Thanks muchly.

[grandbaby]

From a post in another thread by the ever-informative Illuminati Boy:

Color Test Reagents
Ehrlich’s Reagent : 0.5 g of para-dimethylaminobenzaldehyde (p-DMAB) in a mixture containing 50 mL of ethyl alcohol and 50 mL concentrated hydrochloric acid [5]. Marquis Reagent: 100 mL formaldehyde in 1000 mL concentrated sulfuric acid [5].

Color Testing
Testing each of the tryptamine analogues with the Ehrlich’s reagent produced the same change in color from purple to blue, except for DPT HCl, which produced a violet color change and 5-MeO-MIPT which changed from purple to a faint blue. In the presence of the Marquis reagent, each tryptamine analogue produced the same color change from yellow to black, except for DPT HCl which gave a yellow color only, as shown in Table 1.

Table 1: Results of Color Testing.

“Designer” Tryptamine | Ehrlich’s Reagent | Marquis Reagent
N,N-DPT HCl | violet | yellow
5-MeO-DMT | purple to blue | yellow to black
5-MeO-MIPT | purple to faint blue | yellow to black
5-MeO-DIPT HCl | purple to blue | yellow to black
5-MeO-AMT HCl | purple to blue | yellow to black

From Microgram Journal Volume 3, Numbers 1-2

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Color Tests
A purple color was observed when the sample was subjected to the para-dimethylaminobenzaldehyde (PDMAB) reagent test. [This result, along with the fact that sugar cubes were used as the supporting media, explain why the submitting agency believed the exhibits contained LSD.]
However, a cherry red color was observed when the sample was subjected to the sodium nitroprusside reagent test, suggesting a tryptamine. This result was then compared to three tryptamine standards (Table 1). The results suggested the presence of a primary amine with an alpha-methyltryptamine moiety (Figure 2) - and not a secondary amine with an N-methyltryptamine moiety (Figure 3).

Tryptamine | Sodium Nitroprusside Test

alpha-Methyltryptamine | Cherry Red

N-Methyltryptamine | Purple

5-Methoxy-alpha-methyltryptamine | Cherry Red

[illuminati boy]

I think this may be the link that radiometer was referring to: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml
In case it moves, Erowid has the following data points listed:

Marquis

2-AminoIndan
Orange to Red (slightly rusty)
2C-C
Starting brown going to Dark Lime Green (similar to 2C-B)
2C-D
Very light pink
2C-E
No reaction (!?)
2C-I
Dark Green to Black
2C-T-2
Orange to Red (usually a sort of salmon color)
2C-T-4
Orange to Red (usually a sort of salmon color)
2C-T-7
Orange to Red (salmon, again; also, there is less tendency towards orange than 2C-T-2 shows)
3C-P
Orange
4-Acetoxy-DiPT
Dirty (blackish) olive
4-Methyl-Aminorex (u4euh)
no color change
4-MTA
no color change
5-MeO-DiPT
Fizzes then turns yellow quickly changing to a slightly rusty orange
Alpha-Methyl-DiPT
Fizzes then turns brown
AMT
Dark brownish-yellow
BDB
Dark brown, nearly black
Benzylpiperazine
No color change, but it causes the reagent to fizz. Looks like when you pour hydrogen peroxide on a cut.
DiPT
Fizzes strongly then turns a neon yellow
DPT
Dirty olive
Harmine
Fizzes slightly, much less so than BZP, and turns a brown-orange rust color.
IAP
Immediate reaction to salmon/red, slowly intensifies to a darker red over 1min.
MBDB
Dark Brown to Black
Methylone
Yellow
Opiates
Pink to Purple
Phenolphthalein
Crimson
PMA
No color change
TMA-2
Lime Green (similar to 2C-B)
TMA-6
Yellow to Orange
Yohimbine
Fizzes slightly, much less so than BZP. Slowly (up to a minute), it will turn an olive green color.

Mecke

2C-E
light yellow/green within 10 seconds
2C-I
Immediate reaction to a reddish brown similar to drying blood
2C-T-21
Dark blood red which turns to an imperial purple over 30 seconds
4-Methyl-Aminorex (u4euh)
no color change
IAP
No Reaction
MBDB
Yellow
TMA-6
Dirty olive, gradually develops orange on the edges of the liquid puddle after about a minute

Simons

2C-E
No reaction
2C-I
No reaction
2C-T-21
Greenish blue
IAP
No Reaction
TMA-6
Purple

Hopefully this is helpful.I B

Reputation Comments on this post:

nice!

[fastandbulbous]

but it causes the reagent to fizz. Looks like when you pour hydrogen peroxide on a cut.

Always wanted to ask: What sort of a masochist pours peroxide into an open wound?

[Alfa]

What's the English word for a neurotic who can't stand filth?

[daeron]

Originally Posted by Alfa

What's the English word for a neurotic who can't stand filth?

that would be "daeron"

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by illuminati boy

I think this may be the link that radiometer was referring to: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml
In case it moves, Erowid has the following data points listed...

Thanks I_B - I happened to spot this thread's reappearance yesterday, and fixed the link in my post as well.

[nanobrain]

Originally Posted by fastandbulbous

Always wanted to ask: What sort of a masochist pours peroxide into an open wound?

um, is is a very common medical practice to disinfect the wound, in eastern Europe anyhow. it doesnt hurt as bad as you'd think, the 1-10% solution, that is.

if anyone is interested still, i could dig up some logs for Easy 1 and 2 (Marquis and Mandelin)