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Old 03-06-2010, 22:15
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urine enemas

SWIM is admittedly a noob when it comes to using meth, but has some pretty good teachers who have been very accomodating. One of the lessons SWIM has learned from these people is that a lot of dope passes straight through the kidneys unmetabolized and into the urine. It was recommended that SWIM save his urine (never for more than a day) and enema with it for another hit.

Being a gay man, SWIM has access to an enema bag and is not adverse to trying (SWIM knows urine is sterile unless there is a UTI present). After a night of partying, and finally sleeping, SWIM used his first morning urine as enema liquid and did, in fact, feel a not-insignificant rush after holding in the liquid for several minutes. It made waking up much more tolerable for SWIM.

Despite the success SWIM experienced, he can not find any reference to this form of use on the internet or within this forum. He wonders if anybody else has heard of / used this method and if there is a method to calculating when the most concentrated urine could be collected.

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Old 04-06-2010, 02:17
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Re: urine enemas

SWIM finds her urine to be very dark after a binge... usually it seems to collect after coming down... so SWIM would not use the urine when keeping hydrating during the binge but save the urine after SWIM crashes and first urinates on waking from that. SWIM uses enemas frequently at work and urine is easily held inside for extended periods of time without issue. Since SWIY uses enemas frequently he must know that clearing out first with a water and soapy rinse is best to allow more free walls available and to be able to hold in the urine enema longer.... SWIM is lucky if she had someone to play with for this she has a urine bag that strapons on to her and has enema connections which allow her to piss straight into someones ass. SWIM imagines that would be the best way to experiment with his, wearing such a device and on every urination attatch it to an inserted enema nossel plug that is kept in the other person and take notes after each round on any effects felt
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Old 04-06-2010, 20:00
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Re: urine enemas

But does anyone know of the SAFETY (relatively speaking) of having an urine enema? Urine is, after all, waste material. I understand trying to 'recapture' the actives in the urine; in fact, I believe it's been talked about on this forum (if it's possible to do, say, an A/B extraction on urine to get various goodies out, don't remember the replies).

However, what about reintroducing those waste products back into the system, especially via a method that bypasses some of our major 'defense systems' (the stomach & liver)? Any ideas?

~Kailey, who has no use for urine enemas whatsoever but is still intrigued...

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Old 04-06-2010, 20:21
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Re: urine enemas

people use various recipes for enemas and urine is one that often can arise in fetish BDSM situations. Since SWIM has yet to meet a single person who has had issues from doing enemas on a semi regular basis of various recipes depending on what was required, having any health problems.

Common problems with enemas is doing them to frequently, or without proper rehydration of electrolytes after.

However since the hypothetical situation we are looking at would require a series of enemas with breaks to test what if any effect is achieved, the urine is still only going to stay inside for 10 minutes or so. That is all that should be required for the colon to make an asorbtion of the contents. Even at 15 minutes SWIM is doubtful of whether this practice could be more dangerous than the use of methamphetamine itself. Already playing with fire, people like to try new ways with drugs and ideas to recycle use is common. Safe practice is best to be remembered, lack of freqauency and rehydration with electrolytes.
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Old 04-06-2010, 22:02
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Re: urine enemas

While HIV does not seem to be transmitted via urine, there is a risk that other viruses, such as Hepatitis C (approx 10% of HCV positive individuals have been found to have viral RNA present in urine) and Hepatitis B could be.

Therefore, in the interests of harm reduction, this practice should be regarded as inherently unsafe, and cannot be recommended

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Old 04-06-2010, 22:16
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Re: urine enemas

For people who do get involved with urine, there is hep shots and with their own urine would it be an issue Got a bit carried away with sexual practices not particularly relevant to the original post.

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Re: urine enemas

Swibf had collected low levels ofhydration and unadaltered PH urine given 5g MA*HCl consumption The intention was to A/B determine the mass of resulting A and MA to venture obscure nothing-based assumptions about his own personal matabolisim of MA. Whenever consideration of the intentions resumed it was scrapped (A/B) as A is a motabilized result. Though 2L given ideal excretion rates he recalls something like 3g MA and 0.4g A. Swibf did undergo such an enema seeking disposal of the liquid,but first testing the value. ..

5x400ML runs were done over 2 days. He was given significant verification of amph by its stimulation of the bowel. Swibf evaluated effect giving a relative rectal saturated MA dose of 80-130mg on each. Its entirely worthless given any modification (urine) A/B, enema, etc... Either yield has negative utility or the discomforts greatly outweigh the high's intensity (save for massive concentractions, why would a gluten recycle?). Most significant risk of one's own fluid recycling is hydration severely increasing or decreasing, dehydration seemed to be more likely...

Swibf has had a productive year or so, haha.
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Old 21-04-2011, 06:50
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Re: urine enemas

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Therefore, in the interests of harm reduction, this practice should be regarded as inherently unsafe, and cannot be recommended
SWIM can't catch anything from his own urine, but you have a good point about not using someone else's urine.

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