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Old 02-06-2010, 01:46
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Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Is hydrocodone usually reported to be more euphoric than oxycodone? Or do opiates really work differently for different individuals? SWIM finds oxycodone to relieve pain better but hydrocodone gets SWIM euphoria and relaxation (at equivalent or even lower dose).
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Old 02-06-2010, 14:51
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

swim doesn't think swiy will get a black/white/yes/no answer on this one. swim has read about some people who find hydrocodone to be more euphoric, but he has also read about others who feel that oxycodone is more euphoric. swim really does think it's "in the eye of the beholder."

for the record, swim much prefers oxycodone in this respect.
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Old 02-06-2010, 18:36
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Yes swim is one of those that step over a full jar of oxycodone to get at the hydro's, lol. Hydrocodone rules, swim has no use whatsoever for oxycodone.
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Old 15-06-2010, 01:15
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

SWIM has tried both hydrocodone (vicodin/vicuprofen) and Oxycodone (percocets/oxycotton) and the way he would rank them as his favorite down to his least favorite (giving the highest euphoria) would be Oxycontin, Vicuprofen, Percocet and then Vicodin. But that's just SWIMS experience.
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Old 15-06-2010, 09:23
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

In Swims experiences..... He started out on hydro and it was great then was introduced to oxy and it was better, then as he built tolerance for oxy the hydros were still euphoric surprisingly. Swim feels that maybe those who claim hydrocodone is more euphoric have possibly been on oxy for a while and just appreciate the newness of hydrocodone. But like wreckreational addict said, theres really no black/white answer and everyone has different experiences/opinions.
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Old 15-06-2010, 18:03
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Swim has often heard OXY described as an 'energetic', 'chatty', or 'busy' high, while HYDRO is often described as a more 'sedate', 'warm & fuzzy' type of feeling. Depends on whay swiy idea of 'high' is.
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Old 15-06-2010, 18:42
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

SWIM has a hard time deciding which one he likes best. The HC offers more of a "melt in your couch", "warm blanket" feel, but OC offers more striking euphoria and profundity.
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Old 15-06-2010, 19:39
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

My friend Peaches finds hydrocodone more euphoric than oxy. But she finds hydrocodone more of an "energetic" high than a sedating high, she thinks oxycodone and hydrocodone is equal on that one. Peaches is now on 30mg codeine tablets because she lives in the UK now (she was prescribed 10mg hydrocodone in the US but hydro's dont exist in the UK) and she finds codeine almost as euphoric if not just as euphoric as hydrocodone but finds codeine more sedating, or maybe its the fact she hasnt had hydrocodone in so long she's forgotten how good it is. Hmmm??? She thought she would add that codeine fact in there.LOL

Oh yeah, Peaches is also one of those who would step over a bottle of oxycodone to get to the hydro's..LOL..she had to giggle at that one.

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Old 15-06-2010, 19:57
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Swim thinks people give WAY too much thought to this one. If swiy have had significant experience with both Hydrocodone AND Oxycodone, then swiy knows that there is really no difference (buzz wise) between the two. Swim knows many people are gonna say "but everyone is different and different chemicals affect different people differently," but seriously, swim thinks people give entirely too much credit to the differences between people and their chemical makeup when it comes to certain drugs. While people who lack this enzyme or that one, may make a difference when it comes to SOME drugs, this is really not one of them. At least not when it comes to being able to tell the difference between the feeling of Hydrocodone and Oxycodone.
That being said, swim DOES believe that Oxycodone is stronger and most any doctor, patient, or recreational drug user will agree. Every once in a while swim hears of someone who claims that Oxycodone does nothing for them and that they prefer Hydrocodone but this seems preposterous to swim. Anyone who claims this, has obviously just had a bad experience or three with Oxycodone. Maybe they had a full stomach and only took a small amount while their tolerance was high? There is no telling why, but swim knows I have had many times with BOTH substances where swim could hardly feel them, be it because of swim's full stomach, other drug consumption, tolerance, or some other reason swim can't think of at the moment.
Oxycodone always gives swim a little stronger rush and seems to make swim's legs feel heavier so of course, swim prefers it. Buzz wise, it seems to swim that a Oxycodone 7.5 is roughly equal to a Hydrocodone 10. While swim does notice the fact that the Oxycodone is without a doubt, a stronger feeling, it's a little pointless to try and distinguish the difference in the feeling because there really isn't one. They BOTH produce a "warm" feeling throughout the body and make swiy drowsy in high doses, while giving experienced users a rush that is described as "speedy" or "energetic". They both can produce a nod at higher doses, regardless of the user's experience and they both can produce euphoria. There really is no difference, but to say that Hydrocodone is more euphoric than Oxycodone is completely false. If anyone believes this, then as stated before, it must be because of extenuating circumstances involving set, setting, mood, tolerance, and prior food & drug consumption. Swim would gladly trade any Hydrocodone for it's equal weight in Oxycodone simply because Oxycodone is stronger. By the way, this is not an offer and swim has nothing to trade at any time, for any reason.
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Old 16-06-2010, 01:39
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Yes Oxycodone is stronger than Hydrocodone, by a factor of about 50%........but stronger does not mean better. Not everyone even takes recreational doses..........maybe for people who get blasted on 30 or so mgs the difference is small.........but swim has taken both of them for extended periods of time and swim much prefers hydrocodone......oxycodone is too strong and not worth the side effects. Not everyone is using these as an intoxicant.
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Old 16-06-2010, 02:13
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

SWIM prefers hydro to oxy. SWIM considers hydro more mellow and enjoyable with less of a comedown. SWIM believes it's totally dependent on the person.
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Old 16-06-2010, 08:40
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Excellent point soer, the comedown from oxy is fierce compared to hydro.
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Old 16-06-2010, 12:33
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Surprised to see the mixed bag of opinions on this one!

Most would argue that oxy is more potent and therefore more euphoric, but SWIM disagrees. Perhaps she's never had a high-enough dose of oxy, but for her it creates a more scattered, confused energy while hydro is sheer bliss. One 5 mg. hydro is all it takes for her to experience extreme euphoria, while 7-7.5 mgs. of oxy produces significantly less intense effects. She can imagine that higher doses could be really energetic and fun though, and would never turn down EITHER option
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Old 16-06-2010, 21:16
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Hmm Swim would have to say Oxy is more euphoric, more potent and less harmful on your body (unless CWE the vics). Swim started with codeine, then to hyrdocod, then oxy then morphine then heroin and finally oxymorphone. Honestly, Swim can catch a nice buzz from an 80mg oxy. However, Swim could eat about 6 vics at once and literally not feel anything. On the flip side, Oxymorphone is pretty potent, much more than oxycodone and really on par or even better than the H he has done.
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Old 17-06-2010, 03:46
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

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Swim could eat about 6 vics at once and literally not feel anything.
Someone who never takes opiates in 'recreational doses' never has to worry about that. Swim never takes more than one at a time, and they work just fine.
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Old 17-06-2010, 04:26
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

In response to Kahn who said that stronger does not mean better.. Not trying to argue for the sake of being argumentitive but in this case stronger DOES mean better. For all you people who are saying that the comedown from oxy is worse, this is simply because the comedown from something stronger is always worse than the comedown from something not as strong. When you eat 80 mg's of either substance, you are going to get higher than you would off of 40 mg's which means the comedown is going to be worse.
Swim (For the record), has been eating pain killers recreationally for over 10 years. He has eaten just about every narcotic pain killer made and has gotten to know both oxycodone AND hydrocodone like the back of his hand. The differences are so subtle, they are almost non existent. The only real noticeable difference is that oxycodone is stronger. Neither one has more or less side effects than the other aside from the fact that oxy is stronger and will produce effects that are stronger, milligram for milligram. However if you are to adjust for the fact that the oxy's are stronger, it is possible to get pretty much the exact same feeling from both pills. Neither one produce effects that the other one doesn't and any attempt to argue otherwise is futile. Taking the same drug on different days, at different times, with your stomach being more or less empty than the last time you took them, along with having different amounts of chemicals/dopamine, etc. flowing through you at the time will explain the differences you guys are claiming to feel. It is just as possible to feel those same differences between one night of hydrocodone and the next, than it is from one night of hydrocodone and another night with oxycodone. If oxycodone is too strong for you, you can simply take less oxycodone so it seems very silly to me to prefer hydrocodone over oxycodone. Neither one is "more mellow" or "more speedy" or "more relaxing". They feel the same except oxycodone is a little stronger buzz and if you are one of those that prefer hydro over oxy, it is simply because you have it built up in your head that it is so. The mind is a powerful thing and once it is made up, it's hard to change it unless you are willing.
I would like to point out that there have been numerous people that I have ran into over the years that swear hydrocodone is a better buzz than vicoden. I have also heard that Lortab always gets this guy or that guy much higher than vicoden but these claims are ridiculous because vicoden IS hydrocodone. Lortab IS hydrocodone. Those are simply brand names and as long as you get the generic, you are getting the same pill (provided that it comes from the same pharmacy.) I have also heard people time and time again claim that watsons (a certain brand of generic hydrocodone) will always get them higher than such and such brand, and vice versa. These claims, (if you pay close attention and talk to enough people,) follow no rhyme or reason and vary from person to person. It's obvious that these are things that are simply built up in these people's heads and aren't really true. I do realize that this argument is a little different because we are actually talking about 2 different chemicals in this case and I also realize that unlike the idiots that claim vicoden is better than lortab, there is more of a point here because there actually IS a difference between oxy and hydro. I'm just saying that the difference is so small that it's not worth mentioning. Oxy's are just a slightly bigger blast and everytime I try to pay close attention to the differences, it all comes down to the fact that oxy is stronger. That's really the only difference and anything else is purely placebo. I know I'm gonna be in the minority here, seeing as how the thread is going to attract mostly people who agree with the thread starter and most arguments are going to be something along the lines of "But dude, everyone is different and you can't know how a drug effects another person! You can only speak for yourself!" I realize that this is true but I know both of the chemicals in question enough to realize that everything else I have said is true as well..Go OXY!
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

SWIM is a die hard fan of hydrocodone's warm euphoria, second only to cannabis in his opinion. hes tried Oxycodone a handful of times and didnt enjoy it nearly as much. it may be because he started using hydro long before he tried oxy, and could be comparing it in the back of his brain during the experience. but still, he loves his Norco all the same.
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Old 17-06-2010, 04:36
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

SWIM is an infrequent user of opiates, so SWIMs tolerance is virtually nonexistent. SWIM would take hydro over oxy anyday. SWIM finds hydro much more euphoric, giving that warm fuzzy pleasantness. SWIM would say hydro is more relaxing/sedating.
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Jon Doe, maybe the reason you hardly can tell the difference between the two is that you are talking about huge recreational doses (80's and 40's)............hell swim once went hogwild and swallowed two whole vicodin ES at once , for a grand total of 15 mg's of hydrocodone..........outside of that he has no idea what recreational doses feel like so in a way we are talking about apples and oranges just on dosage alone.
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

No, not really. Many times, swim eats an amount that would be prescribed by a doctor. Of course, he usually eats more than that but not always. For the first couple of years, he really only needed a prescribed amount to have some fun with. Besides, the topic was pondering the question, "Is hydro, more euphoric than oxy?" The answer to that, is absolutely not.
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

SWIM thinks it's much more euphoric. Hydro has a warmer high and it's more comfortable and makes SWIM more drowsy. This is what she wants from opiates. Not the jacked up, jittery high of oxycodone. However, she has experience IVing oxycodone, and she must admit that it's very euphoric and the rush is almost comparable to a shot of heroin.
All that being said, SWIM would rather use Vicodin for pain relief than getting high. Heroin is for getting high, not pills. You just need too many Vicodins to get high and they're very good for pain relief. SWIM would rather pop one or two to alleviate pain that OTC stuff doesn't get rid of rather than waste them on a crappy short-lived high. Excuse SWIM if she sounds retarded. She is extremely high on heroin right now.
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

For SWIM oxycodone is more euphoric but doesn't last near as long as hydrocodone; they are are pretty on par with eachother in SWIMs opinion, but if he had an option of a gallon of pure hydrocodone or a gallon of pure oxycodone it would be tough (so much money to be made on the oxy 4 a SWIMMER); but SWIM would go wiith the oxycodone 1. because it's more of a smack in the face with a cock feel (no SWIM is not gay; but he's done some cock to face slapping in his day) to it; in other words when it hit's, it hits HARD; no pun intended 2. its a more noddy high which he likes & its just got a sparkle of its own that hydro doesn't touch although hydrocodone is the shit though and he will always have a love affair with its duration and drowsyness & that lack of nausea.

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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

You are a lucky swimmer if you can find a gallon of both to choose from.
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

Personally i think the euphoria factor is the same. But it takes a less amount of oxy to do the job, but hydro seems to last longer than oxy. But the itching effect is alot more intese with oxy. Hope this helps!
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Re: Hydrocodone - more euphoric than Oxycodone?

My penguin finds that he experiences far superior euphoria with oxycodone relative to hydrocodone. He gets the more energetic, giddy high easier with oxy than he does with hydrocodone, and the euphoria itself is more pronounced. That said, if he builds up a tolerance to oxycodone this effect diminishes, and with higher doses he gets a strong nod that is still nice and euphoric, but not preferable to the more energetic and upbeat high. With hydrocodone, on the other hand, even when the penguin has somewhat of a tolerance he feels that the qualitative nature of the high doesn't change as much, though this could be because he tends not to escalate the dose in such circumstances, as he would with oxycodone.

Overall, the penguin doesn't think that one is more euphoric than the other per se, but there are indeed qualitative differences in the nature of the euphoric effects induced by both substances, so that personal preference plays a significant role in determining which one is more 'enjoyable'.


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SWIM is a die hard fan of hydrocodone's warm euphoria, second only to cannabis in his opinion. hes tried Oxycodone a handful of times and didnt enjoy it nearly as much. it may be because he started using hydro long before he tried oxy, and could be comparing it in the back of his brain during the experience. but still, he loves his Norco all the same.
Sorry, what?

I assume you meant to say that swiy ranks it second to only cannabis in terms of overall enjoyability, not that cannabis produces the most euphoria of any drug! Because as much as my penguin enjoyed his cannabis use, he wouldn't describe euphoria as a prominent effect.

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