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Old 31-05-2010, 02:08
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how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

Can some one please find a way to seperate the freckles looking cut from swims meth not for a quarter bag like larger amounts because this stuff is surrounding swim and swim wants to get high so any help would be nice thanks swims!!
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Old 02-06-2010, 18:30
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

Isopropylbenzylamine = freckles Now is there any way to seprate it from da good chemically or teleapathically? any reply would be nice 113 veiws and no swim Knows Sh1t-.....?

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Old 02-06-2010, 18:34
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

Getting upset because you didn't get an answer on your timeline is not going to encourage anyone to answer your post. There may truly be no way to do that, or the people who visited your post may truly not know - and dont forget some of the people who come here are on a completely opposite side of the world and may be sleeping.

It would be a better idea to bump your post, but no more than 1 time per 24 hour period..and if noone answers within a few days, id let it go.

There is a massive amount of people who visit this website and not all of them are members. Some come in via google links or other websites just to read - if you think (if i remember correctly) Alfa, the owner said nearly one million visitors a month - not all of those people or even a really significant number is going to be chemistry minded for this type of stuff.

Sorry you havent gotten an answer yet. Good luck.

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Old 05-06-2010, 00:07
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

It had the same solubilty with meth, so using acetone/alcohol to seperate is impossible, and both boiling point were close mean even distillation also not possible too.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:39
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

yes swim was just going to post that after conducting an acetone dip. which might lead to another thread ......Drug dealers dont care enough or put the time into making a cut or finding one that is Damn near the product with out the high and if they did it wouldve been happening along time ago like 20 or 15 years ago right????

Swim has an idea about this new cut its the US GOVERNMENT / DEA!!!!

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Old 11-06-2010, 01:47
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

If swiy smokes meth it is easy to separate the "freckles" cut because it re-solidifies much slower than meth. Melt what is in the bowl then blow on it to cool it down. The meth will recrystallize and the freckles will still be liquid. Roll the liquid away from meth and remove it.

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Funny. My friend does the same thing when he's too lazy to execute a single or double solvent recrys with final cold tone wash. This may not get rid of the pin-wheels but at least clean-up product a bit.
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Old 24-06-2010, 14:51
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

was kinda looking for a method BEFORE swim Melts it down...
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Old 24-06-2010, 17:30
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

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was kinda looking for a method BEFORE swim Melts it down...
Would it be possible to use heat as the method of purifying the meth? Then swim could recrystallize if desired.

Yes, some product is bound to be lost doing this, but that is probably true with any kitchen method of purification.
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Old 28-06-2010, 14:31
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

MEK(methyl ethyl ketone) will work i know all about the isopropylbenzylamine
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Old 11-07-2010, 00:43
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

So just dip the goods into the Methyl Acetone? on is there a more complicated process please inform
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Old 13-07-2010, 16:06
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

try holding a lighter upside down putting the hole on the hole of the bowl (after you've already melted the shit down). press lighter so that the gas comes out of it directly into the bowl for like five seconds...then remove the lighter, and ignite it on top of the bowl hole (hehehe). it will flame up for a minute and then it will blow out on both ends by itself. so hold it away from yourself and grasp the pipe by the middle of the neck. i was told this will get the freckles out, and ive done this a million times. im not a chemist, so i dont know if it really works. but its gotten the freckle shit out.
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

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MEK(methyl ethyl ketone) will work i know all about the isopropylbenzylamine

@tweekerluke: yes please do inform, is all that is required is a rinse in the MEK?
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

hard fully no what u peeps are on bwt.swims just finishing up whats meant to b a half g bag normally last good few days but swim can tell has some kind of new cut last no where as long n the buzz is a lil funny.by sounds of it nz is using the new sneaky way of cutting aswel as the rest of the world.
sucks

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Old 02-10-2011, 16:53
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

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Isopropylbenzylamine = freckles Now is there any way to seprate it from da good chemically or teleapathically? any reply would be nice 113 veiws and no swim Knows Sh1t-.....?
"freckles from Iso"= NOPE!
"Is there way to do it before"= Yup!

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yes swim was just going to post that after conducting an acetone dip. which might lead to another thread ......Drug dealers dont care enough or put the time into making a cut or finding one that is Damn near the product with out the high and if they did it wouldve been happening along time ago like 20 or 15 years ago right????

Swim has an idea about this new cut its the US GOVERNMENT / DEA!!!!
Nope!
Good Iso is synthesized by "dope dealers" to appear as Ice. They actually are putting in more work than years ago doing this.

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Would it be possible to use heat as the method of purifying the meth? Then swim could recrystallize if desired.

Yes, some product is bound to be lost doing this, but that is probably true with any kitchen method of purification.
Nope!

Iso's melting point is higher than Meths.

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MEK(methyl ethyl ketone) will work i know all about the isopropylbenzylamine
What's your procedure? And curious as to why your choice of MEK

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So just dip the goods into the Methyl Acetone? on is there a more complicated process please inform
NOPE! There's much more to it.
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Old 28-05-2013, 14:01
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

The above post is a perfect example of douchebaggery. Why would you state that the HARMFUL, cutting agent isopropylbenzylamine (which by the way, is either added at the production level, or very high up the chain, and likely not by your dealer) can be removed, then insinuate that you know how to do it, that it is complicated, and yet, no provide the answer?
There isn't much info on this cut... and the pros and cons have to be weighted. It makes MAP much less desirable... keeps the user up, but no euphoria... and it may be even more harmful than MAP itself......

I thought this was a harm reduction site?

Anyway. Methamphetamine Hydrochloride is freely soluble in chloroform. Isopropyl Benzylamine, isn't. Chloroform needs to be stored in a dark place, and basic precautions need to be taken not to breathe the stuff. Outdoors is a safer place to do this.

Put crushed product in a shot glass, add chloroform, swirl for 10 seconds, wet a coffee filter in a funnel over a shallow container with chloroform (the smaller the filter, the better) and pour contents of shot glass onto filter.
You can also just use an eye dropper to pick up the chloroform+meth from the shot glass and put it on a plate or other shallow glass surface.... just leave any solids behind.
Evaporate the chloroform... make sure its bone dry... scrape. That's meth.
Solids left in chloroform are not meth.

There are some variants of this cut (methyl, ethyl) and some people have reported that some of these cuts are not very soluble in cold water.

Was it that hard? Geez.... no need for distillation columns and whatnot.

A lot of the stuff going around, especially in California, is mostly iso. Sometimes, it's just 100% iso. I read a story where someone accused the cops of sprinkling a bit of MAP with the iso to get a conviction. A lot of people can't even tell the difference between iso and map. Then again, a lot of people have never had proper meth.

PS: "freckles" is just unreacted pseudoephedrine. consider yourself lucky if you even get that these days. it means that the rest of your stash contained at least some amount of MAP.

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Old 28-05-2013, 21:55
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

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"freckles" is just unreacted pseudoephedrine. consider yourself lucky if you even get that these days. it means that the rest of your stash contained at least some amount of MAP.
Listen to this guy ^^ what I would do for a bowl of pinwheels and a couple days of trippy voices -_- oh well the feds control the game now
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Old 29-05-2013, 04:40
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

My pet turtle was on a quest a few years back, he knew something just wasn't right. He also knew what ever it was it was something with very similar physical properties. He tried differ wash and dries, recrystallizations. none of this gave any indacation as to what my pet turtle knew but just couldn't prove. Finally when my pet turtle heated his goods to 200c then slowly lowered the temp to 175c and held for 12 hours a precipitant had formed. He then filtered precipitant out and allowed the rest to cool and recrystallize. Pet turtle was happy that he confirmed the likely hood of an unbeknown cut to the tadpoles in his pond and left it at that. The time and amount of lost product during this process was more than my turtle could be happy with. He can not state factually as to what that cut was, but in his own mind he's been convinced as to it being the subject of many new post. Now you know what my turtle knows.
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Old 29-05-2013, 08:45
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

The melting points are close together, without a very accurate way to control and stabilize temperature, melting point separation is difficult. Did you use an induction hot palte?
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The melting points are close together, without a very accurate way to control and stabilize temperature, melting point separation is difficult. Did you use an induction hot palte?
You are very correct, my turtle stayed consumed with this project for many months. The variation in the thermostat of induction hot plate would make temperature stabilization difficult. A continuous flow oil bath was used, heat source was derived from induction heat similar to a hot plate. My turtle can not state what the precipitant was, all he can say is the melting points lead him to believe this. The time it took setting this project up and trying different temps is massive, only made possible by consumption of the goods to be tested. Many of us know just how much time can be consumed doing projects of any type when one consumes this type of goods.
That was a couple years ago and my turtle was not aware of any cuts being used other than MSM. When MSM disappeared from the goods, at first he thought he had super pure goods. But due to a few occasions he became convinced there was something different than pure goods and set out to find out what it was. About six months into this project is when he discovered this. He was happy that he satisfied his thoughts as the project had consumed too much of his life. As anyone would he worries about the potential. harm from consuming unknown product. But understands that to be the risk taken when he chooses to do dangerous activities.

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Old 30-05-2013, 00:58
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Re: how can we seperate the new cut agent freckles

A lot of the stuff going around is 0% meth though

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