Amanita experiences

[RoboCop]

Anyone ever try amanita Muscarias? I hear they can give away quite an euphoric experience and was wondering waht any of you thought of this powerfull psychoactive. Any comments would be helpful.Edited by: RoboCop

[mycoguy]

you can also get pretty sick from amanitas.


It's also a different trip than you get from psilocybes.


Haven't tried it, probably never will.

[RoboCop]

A friend and Swim each ate 8 grams of dried anamita muscaria from an online vendor.They where orange in color and smelled horrible, but did not taste too bad. They hung out for a while and both felt no effects besides a wierd kind of relaxation, so they then smoked some bud. The night ended with no real effects besides a somewhat mild dreamy state.

[Psilocybe S.]

8g's is A lot of psilocybe's..too bad AM's take more than THAT because I find it almost impossible to eat that much shrooms..How does the taste compair to normal shrooms?

[RoboCop]

The taste is much better than shrooms, I hate the taste of shrooms (althoughit is a small price to pay for the effects),and have to chew them up and swallow them real fast, however this was not a problem with eating dried anamitas, they taste nothing like shrooms or even mushrooms at that. It has been to long to recall what it tastes like exactly but it had a very mild taste. And I remmember after that trying anamita tea , the tea did not taste to bad either, alot more of a mushroom taste than eating the dried mushrooms, but it was a very pleasant mushroom taste, ( I hate the taste of mushrooms and was able to enjoy it )

[tmanning]

Friends of mine picked some in the Bay Area, dried the tops with the oven open at 170 or you could dry in the sun (people seem to think UV rays convert ibotenic acid into muscomal as well). Then grind in a coffee grinder, then they added it to a packaged miso soup after water boiled and was cooling off. 6-12gms seemed to be the range from specimens picked in January. Some say the caps that are unopened tend to be more potent. This folks had very personal experiences and would repeat the medicine.

[nicholson_tyler]

Dont fuck with amantis, its more of a delusional trip than an actual trip, its usualy VERY uncomfortable for the user

[thydarkprevails]

well, my psylocybe connections are dry at the moment, and my batch is a month from completion...but i happent to have 4 oz of amanita's in my ethno. collection...i am about to ingest approx 20 grams on a slightly empty stomach..i. have read reports, and this may not be smart..but ingesting 10 grams on a previous instance did nothing....here goes..

[thydarkprevails]

well..i ate 20 grams last night...for an hour..felt nothing..just a slight placebo buzz...and than it hit..wow...i felt like i was in another world..but still grounded and i knew where i was, but could not go there...i saw slight tracers, color changes, and such..and they got progressivly stronger as the night went on...i felt odd, like drunk, but in control, yet everything was dim..colors and all....and i talked a lot, and had a hard time keeping focus...all in all.i would try this again..but not for a long while..there is something in this mushroom that scares me...and i don't know what it is...

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[Maxamillion]

I have done Amanitas a couple of times.....I didn't care for it...I experienced a feeling of sickness both times. I checked it off my list of things to do, and I most likely will not do it again. I had no great insights,etc...nothing "cool" happened....just "blah" drunk feeling...I possibly ate too much

[knowname]

Through the course of a day I hate almost an ounce, and didn't feel any effects at all.

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[Ewok]

I found amanitas very terrifying. I was told that in its pure form you need a teeny tiny amount for them to work, so I didnt have that much. I am a bit of a lightweight, but I found them very paranoia inducing, I had a sense of being very unsafe and being watched. This probably tells you more about me than the amanitas, as some drugs make me very uncomfortable, but I'm usually OK on other mushrooms, its more chemicals that mess me up. So do be careful

[knowname]

I really couldn't figure why I had no effects when I did it, could be due to my stomach contents? I got them from [Edited] and hey were the best variety the offered.Edited by: BA

[sunyata]

Amanitas can vary a lot in potency, depending on how well they have been prepared and where they're from(as with all plants). It's best to experiment your way to the correct dosage, don't try 20g the first time. Also, the effects take a while before setting in, so don't eat more just because you don't feel anything the first hour.


As for danger, if they are properly prepared, A.Muscaria. contains very small amounts of the poison that makes the other Amanitas deadly, you would needa lot to reach the lethal dose. However, the active substances have some toxicity by themselves, so it's good to be careful with the dosage in the beginning, until you know how you react to it.


I've read numerous reports claiming that Cannabis eliminates the nausea that comes with Amanitas. These mushrooms can also be smoked for a mild sedative effect. This is just information I've got from books, so beware that I don't know any of this from personal experience.

[29skidoo]

14 grams of "Washington State Grade A" Amanita Muscaria caps were
slowly injested on a completely empty stomach over a period of 3.5
hours. This occured between 9:00 AM and 12:30 PM on a Saturday.



The first significant effects were a general sense of well-being and
confidence. Social interaction was fluid, with visits to the barber,
pet store, and bakery. However, driving was definitely impaired.
Notable was mild distortion of depth and space.



Absolutely no nausea was experienced at any time during the trip. In
fact, 3 large slices of pizza were consumed at approximately 12:45 PM.
The taste was extremely flat. Several pastries were also eaten. These
were tasty and sweet.



Marked closed-eye-visuals (CEV) became evident prior to consuming the
last of the mushrooms. These were mostly veiled kaleidascopic patterns
through which periodically would appear a photographically clear image
of some random object, e.g. car, horse, person, etc. This was
entertaining enough to sit back and watch for awhile.



Boredom set in quickly. It seemed the dose was not strong enough. The
last large cap was eaten. Shortly thereafter the physical effects
began. An intense intra-muscular tension or tingling centered in the
shoulders and abdomen was experienced. This became stronger and
stronger over a period of about 2 hours. The tingling was extremely
distracting, but did not cause alarm. Trying to relieve it became the
focal point of the trip. This included yogic stretches and efforts to
contort the body into impossible positions. Heart rate and blood
pressure were definitely increased. The only real psychological effect
during this period was time distortion. Every glance at the clock
proved a surprise. Either too much or too little time seemed to have
passed.



Around 3:00 PM or so, a comfortable position on the couch was finally
achieved. A period of "sleep" soon followed. There was no recollection
of dreams or visions. After some indefinite period of time, there was
an awareness of waking up in the kitchen. This was like a drunken
stupor more than anything else. Vague thoughts of needing
hospitalization occured. Soon another blackout followed. This was
followed by a repeating cycle of waking up in a different part of the
house (or even in the backyard) and then blacking out again. This was
not fun. It was completely disorienting. Often it was forgotten that
mushrooms had been consumed. Remembrance of this and that it would
ultimately pass proved to be the guiding light of sanity.



Around 10:00 PM complete lucidity returned. There was still some visual
distortion. Outside, in the dark, it was hard to tell any effects at
all. Reading was a chore and real sleep (with the help of 2 fiorinols)
came at 11:30 PM.



The next day felt good. There was no depression or depleted feeling as
with LSD, psilocybin, or MDMA. There was only a nice detached
contemplative state that lasted into the afternoon. This may have been
the best part of the trip.



Notably absent during the trip was any sense of terror, significant
anxiety, euphoria, ecstasy, or spiritual insight. The meat of the trip
could simply be described as being grossly fucked up.



However, this is definitely worth repeating - but next time with a
slightly smaller dose. Amanita could be quite interesting without the
blackouts.



On a final note, the bag of mushrooms seemed to consist of two visually
distinct types: 1) friendly looking orange caps with the distinctive
white polka dots, and 2) not so friendly looking yellowish or beige
caps with greyish polka dots. The reason behind the varience is not
clear. In any case, the next trip will not combine the two.

[Micklemouse]

The reason behind the variance is that the orange shroom was a Fly Agaric, and the other wasn't. Please be very, very careful with mushrooms, especially Amanitas - many of the Fly's cousins are deadly poisonous. Always get a positive identification before ingesting Shrooms!

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[RoboCop]

well he ordered them online sold as Washington state caps, I doubt they sent two different kinds, and if they did I'd be pretty pissed. Fly agaric can be anywhere from red to yellow, so it doesn't sound like you got a poisonus Amanitas, they were probally both fly agaric, but who knows, if you think it wasn't don't buy from there again. But any reliable online source will not send you two different kinds, in fact moth ethno sites don't even carry any other mushrooms other than fly agaric. Its not like they sell poisonus ones. (except for if you believe fly agaric is poisonus.)

[29skidoo]

They also sell the much stronger Amanita pantherina. I'm wondering if
some of these might have slipped into the bag. The picture of the
Pantherinas is certainly of a yellowish-brown variety. When imagined
dried they could easily look like what was mixed in with the muscarias.

However, to be fair, I can't rule out Amanita muscaria var formosa.
Going by the pictures I've run across (see images on Erowid), this
variety has a yellowish-orange color. This could very well account for
the other type.

Unfortunately, since I indiscriminately mixed the two, I cannot account for any difference in actual effects.

Has anyone else received a "mixed bag" from any source???
Edited by: BA

[Micklemouse]

I certainly hope it was the formosa variety, although this only grows wild in the States. Another possibility is Amanita regalis. Pantherina is closely related to A. phalloides which can be deadly in small doses - for safety's sake I'd be very wary of ordering this!

European A.muscaria are always orange to scarlet - if someone told me a yellow mushroom was A.muscaria I'd be highly suspicious and definitely wouldn't ingest it!

Sending mixed bags is very sketchy behaviour, especially without an explanation, as is selling potentially fatal mushrooms.

[RoboCop]

I do not think you have to be wary ordering anything from [Edited]they are a very reliable source. plus its not like they go around picking random amanitas by how they look and then sell them. They have a place that grows the specific type of mushrooms ships to them then sell to the consumers. There is not going to be any poisonus look alikes sold with them. Edited by: BA

[Micklemouse]

A couple of points...I'm sure the site mentioned is reliable and know what they're doing, however it doesn't change the fact that A.Pantherina is a highly poisonous and potentially(albeit rarely, and then in high doses) lethal mushroom, and not to be taken lightly. The shamans who use it have thousands of years of years of experience behind them in preparation and ingestion. They know exactly what they're doing, and why they're doing it. Do you? Please be very careful with Amanitas kittlings - the potential to fuck up is high!

Secondly, can we tighten up on the naming of sources please? This isn't the place to be discussing this info!

[cyalume]

i have an ounce of amanitas from the above mentioned source.. i cant however help but be extremely nervous concerning ingestion of them. Most of the poisonous amanitas just eat your liver so i wonder what adverse effects amanitas have on the liver?

[sunyata]

One of the substances in the mushroom is iboteni acid, this is bad for you, but if they are properly dried at about 170-200 degrees F, the acid is turned into muscimole, increasing the potency and decreasing the toxicity.Procedure is described at erowid.org


Start with 5grams and see how that feels, if it's to weak, increase the dose with a couple of grams and try again. This might take some time, but it's better to play this game safely.

[cyalume]

my mushies are pretty much dried out straight out of the package. I think i might just take them with a huge dose of milk thistle.

[jarka]

I have eaten them, smoked them, made tea out of them and everything with no effects whatsoever. The first time I felt more energized but that was maybe because I thought I'm gonna trip.. I picked the mushrooms from a forest.

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