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Maximizing the BZP TMFPP experience ?



hello all


since these pills have been around for a while, many people must have tried combos and mixes. what are some of the favorite additions to the bzp tmfpp pill, combos that would potentially improve the effects of a small dose for instance, or reduce side effects ?


Alcohol seems to be the most common, very bad for the body ( and increases hangover potential, dehydratation), potentially dangerous (like ephedrine and other stimulants, alcohol doesn't hit as much, thus allowing more consumption, thus increasing dangers...), alcohol and nicotine for the smokers craving that lovely dopamine kick...


soft like beer, maybe one every 40 minutes with water in between, or shots of strong liquor ?


cannabis ? but doesn't getting stoned on top seem to reduce the stimulating / extrovert qualities of the experience ?


5HTP, Tyrosine and the likes ? good at the end, but what about during ? and before ? reading seems to point that preloading seems pretty useless.


ephedrine ? dangerous for the heart, and potentially not fun if you're one of those who get pretty edgy on ephedrine


caffeine ? would caffeine reboost the stimulant qualities like it does for some amphetamine based products ? Coffee, guarana, kola...


other herbal stimulants like betel, khat, or coca ?


low doses of mushrooms for the stimulant quality ? (a shot or two of a weak liquor maceration ?)


downers ?


what has been tired successfully or not, some favorites or recommendations or special warnings? not to end up thrashed, but to enhance or better the experience, for say a good night out, some dancing good mood and social fun.

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