Opinions - Which Benzodiazepine to Try Next?

[primal440]

istory... hello to you benzoheads, i like benzos a lot and have access to them, maybe rohypnol being the exception (maybe). I wanna change my current benzo (diazepam - valium) which has been my favorite by now, being replaced by lorazepam - ativanwhich developed high tolerance too quickly and had to take a lot, and before that clonazepam, which is more expensive and it lasts a lot which i like (not like alprazolam - xanax) but i always end up messed up more than i wished, like an amnesiac bastard. Before that I had alprazolam which just put me to sleep, the less preferred of the family no recreational value at all, either i feel mildly relaxed or i go to sleep for 24 hours. So heres the bottom line for you all veterans: I like benzos that last some time, that dont have so much memory issues, my favorite so far has been diazepam i think mixed with a little clonazepam. Please tell me what I should try next... Edited by: primal440

[Sektor]

zopiclone

[primal440]

hell, zoplicone is in he same family as zolpidem, which today let me down big time, i took 40 mg and barely felt anything, got the strange thoughts tho but almost no distinguishable visuals. besides its short acting, id rather take something that last more than 4 hours, thanks for the suggestiion though! anybody else with experience can tell me what benzo to choose for my next trials?

[primal440]

well, thanks to everyone for the replies....

[PsyDefects]

u can try some bromazepam, it has a mean half-life of about 20 hrs and comes in 1.5 mg, 3 mg, and 6 mg pills.

[tshady]

temazepam is the one for you

[mark_v]

Originally Posted by primal440

hell, zoplicone is in he same family as zolpidem,
which today let me down big time, i took 40 mg and barely felt
anything, got the strange thoughts tho but almost no distinguishable
visuals. besides its short acting, id rather take something that last
more than 4 hours, thanks for the suggestiion though! anybody else with
experience can tell me what benzo to choose for my next trials?

Zolpidem does shit to me, even at dosages around 50 mg..



But 15 mg Zopiclone and i'm off

[pharmapsyche]

SWIM is a huge benzo fan too, although is sound like SWIM doesn't get them as often as you. All the benzo's you've tried are amazlying beautiful ones. SWIM's favorite is between clonazepam and Alprazolam probably, although SWIM loves them all!


I noticed a few above recommened trying Zolpidem tartrate, and i just wanted to make it clear to you, that Zolpidem (Ambien) is not actually a benzodiazepine, it is classifield as a sedative/hypnotic. Zolpidem has a chemical structure that is different from those of benzodiazepines, barbiturates, or any other drugs with hypnotic properties. Although Zolpidem is not a benzodiazepine, it works and acts a bit similar to drugs classified as benzo's. Zolpidem works by binding to the BZ-1 receptor subtype of the GABAa receptor complez. That specific subtype has alot to do with sleep, which is why Zolpidem is a common prescribed sleep-aid. Although it's not a benzo, it does have recreational use! SWIM enjoy's ambien athough it produces a good amount of memory loss while intoxaced.


But my adivce for a trying a new benzodiazepine would be to try temazepam, it's short-acting but fun while it's there. It's often prescribed for sleeping, but didn't make SWIM to sleepy. Hope I helped.

[Richard_smoker]

I'd recommend Bromazepam if you haven't tried it. Brand name is Lexotan. Can't get this in the USA, however... I think it stopped going through FDA approval because it is supposedly more addictive than other benzos, especially when combined with opiates.

[Raw edge]

Swim has asked me for some advice on Benzos. I do not know which to recommend to him.

Here are his choices

10MG VALIUM
XANAX 1MG
Lorazepam 2mg
KLONOPIN, 2mg
DORMICUM (midazolam) 7.5 mg
MG Bromazepam 6mg
Mogadon 5 mg

Everything above is priced the same as any of the other. The exception is Valium, which costs half as much as the others.
He told me he want to get the maximum bang for his buck. What would Swiy recommend.

[dreamingawake]

take a look at the benzo equivalency chart it'll help you out
SWIM likes xanax a whole lot, its a miracle drug. apparently.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Raw edge

Swim has asked me for some advice on Benzos. I do not know which to recommend to him.

Here are his choices

10MG VALIUM(diazepam)
XANAX(alprazolam) 1MG
Lorazepam 2mg
KLONOPIN(clonazepam), 2mg
DORMICUM (midazolam) 7.5 mg
MG Bromazepam 6mg
Mogadon(nitrazepam) 5 mg

Everything above is priced the same as any of the other. The exception is Valium, which costs half as much as the others.
He told me he want to get the maximum bang for his buck. What would Swiy recommend.

Originally Posted by dreamingawake

take a look at the benzo equivalency chart it'll help you out
SWIM likes xanax(alprazolam) a whole lot, its a miracle drug. apparently.

Originally Posted by crunchyblack

2mg Kpins(clonazepam)

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

[UnderFaz]

2 mg clonazepams definitely.

[Beanfondler]

The Xanax (alprazolam) for social adventures, Klonopin(clonazepam) is by far the best personal use benzo available without being required to be entering surgery or something.

Edit:

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

Read the post two posts above yours.

Swibf noticed the regulatory reminder, but sleep deprivation and a general tweak'id state lead to distortion and for whatever reason Swibf assumed importance was placed on the patented name.

Its a wonder what reality becomes when its experienced without interuption.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Beanfondler

The Xanax for social adventures, Klonopin is by far the best personal use benzo available without being required to be entering surgery or something.

Read the post two posts above yours.

[truth]

xanax makes SWIM a social butterfly haha

[PoppyHappy]

SWIM would definitely go with the Lorazepam(Ativan), or the clonezapam(Klonipin). SWIM loves benzodiazepines!

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Raw edge

Swim has asked me for some advice on Benzos. I do not know which to recommend to him.

Here are his choices

10MG VALIUM
XANAX 1MG
Lorazepam 2mg
KLONOPIN, 2mg
DORMICUM (midazolam) 7.5 mg
MG Bromazepam 6mg
Mogadon 5 mg

Everything above is priced the same as any of the other. The exception is Valium, which costs half as much as the others.
He told me he want to get the maximum bang for his buck. What would Swiy recommend.

In reply to SWIY's original post, SWIM knows which source SWIY wants to get these from, a certain overseas pharmacy, hosted in a warm country SWIM shall not name. All the Roche brand drugs they sell are normals brands, the clonazepam is brand name Rivotril, midazolam is brand name Dormicum, bromazepam is brand name Lexotanil and nitrazepam is brand name Mogadon. The brand Klonopin is not the one they sell.

SWIM would go for the Rivotril, since dose for dose they are the strongest tablets 4x stronger than the Valium(diazepam), 2x stronger than the Xanax(alprazolam), 2x stronger than the lorazepam, 4x stronger than the bromazepam and 8x stronger than the Mogadon(nitrazepam)

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Swim thanks you for your help.

[cyndi]

Well for sleep, xanax is the best one. For anxiety Klonopin hands down the others swim just doesn't care for.

[doublezero]

Valium, love those bue 10mg

[darkbreed]

Ok I have a nice doctor, he gives me any benzo I want I just gotta name them, heck I've named stuff he havn't even heard of before lol. So I'm trying to test around to find out what benzos give the best effect for me, so suggestions are welcome. He think its a good idea i rotate my benzo use anyway so I dont build up too much tolerance and dependency towards a couple specific ones.

I've gone through all the common ones (and some not so common) like alprazolam, temazepam, diazepam, lorazepam, clonazepam, oaxepam (sp?), flunitrazepam, nitrazepam, midazolam, phenezepam.

So, what benzos do you suggest I try out next, specifically inerested in powerful hypnotic benzos for insomnia, as well as powerful sedatives and muscle relaxants.

Give me your list of benzos worth trying thats not on my list above, or list of any SWIMS for that matter.

Cheers

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Please search the Benzodiazepines forum before asking. There are already threads covering the topic of favorite benzodi...

[Psych0naut]

Not that SWIM would recommend the use of benzo's as he has seen much pain and problems because of it, instead rather the opposite. But to finish off the list ... Some powerful hypnotic benzo's are; Loramet(lormetazepam), Halcion(triazolam), Lendormin(brotizolam). And a weak but really old-skool hypnotic benzo; Dalmadorm(flurazepam). Some anxiolytics which are missing from the list are: Lexotanil(bromazepam), Frisium(clobazam), Tranxene(clorazapate) and the weak but most old-skool of them all; Librium(chloordiazepoxide). There are still plenty of other benzo's which aren't included in my list, but there are literally dozens of different benzo's prescribed around the world, that won't fit in just one post ...

[darkbreed]

Thanks for the list!

I've been researching, experimenting and studying the effects of benzodiazepines for many years now, including using them of course which is why I've gotten into the topic in the first place (I like to know what I put into myself).

Personally, for the conditions I use medications for, benzodiazepines seem to be the safest and least toxic of them all (compared to other things such as opiates, opoioids, various muscle relaxants like soma etc, most painkillers).

Of the ones you list, i'm very familiar with bromazepam just forgot to list it up (well guess the benzos got *some* side-effects,

For the rest of the ones you mention, I looked into lormetazepam just some days ago and was considering trying this one out, I've also thought about triazolam.

The other ones I've heard about but not looked specifically into so thanks, I'll have something to study up on. Oh and btw I always thought Librium was a barbtiruate so thanks for clearing that up

[Psych0naut]

Both Triazolam and Brotizolam are very fast acting, very short acting(not more than a hour) knock-out hypnotic benzo's. Lormetazepam is a fast acting, intermediate acting(8-10 hours) hypnotic benzo. All three are highly potent, some of the strongest around.

And as you said, chloordiazepoxide is a benzo. It's often used for withdrawing alcohol addicts, and for benzo tapering schedules. That's the reason I'm on it as well, for tapering my use of benzo's, and to quit all together. For what medical reason does SWIY take that much different benzo's?

[darkbreed]

SWIM takes these amounts of benzos due to several reasons, one is a permanent injury after two car accidents, another one is long term alcoholism, and a third one is from being an ex-needle junkie (heroin, morphine, amphetamine, benzodiazepiens and most other injectables).

SWIM have not injected in 2 years now, and not been drinking in couple months (used to be daily for years). SWIM has decreased the amount of benzo use as well lately, and have 2 different types daily but changes quite frequently what those two daily benzos are as explained in first post above. Once in a while, such as a weekend now and then, SWIM takes an extra amount of benzos "just for the heck of it" instead of drinking or whatever else other people prefer to get wasted on.

SWIM has a supply of benzos that is steadily increasing each time a new prescription is made, which is a good sign, meaning that SWIM currently uses less than what he is actually prescribed to take. Those extra amounts SWIM is left with is saved for those "once and then" benzo binges which do not occur very often.

SWIM would like to add that something he considers a great assistance for decreasing his substance abuse and medical use such as the alcohol and benzos is thanks to Coca leaf chewing. SWIM have lived one year in a country where Coca is common and used as tea, chewed, in foods etc, and is a good medicine as well as source of nutritions. Coca makes SWIM feel fine without the high amount of benzos as earlied needed, so SWIM has reduced his general daily benzo intake from 4 different benzos a day to 2, with several days where benzos are not even taken. Coca is also healthy, not addictive, and also a very excellent replacement for coffee and caffeine as it doesn't have the negative effects that coffe can cause such as jitters, diarreah , etc.

In addition coca has both relaxant and energizing effects, depending on how much is used, and is good for both a nice fresh start in the morning as well as a good sleep in night, and is very effective for bone pains, skeletal displacement problems, rheumatism, digestive problems, headaches and other pains and problems, also psychological problems such as anxiety, nervousness, insomnia, fatigue etc.

SWIM thinks he can replace benzos and alcohol completely with coca alone if he wants. But SWIM do like his occasional benzo knocker, so he doesn't plan to stop his prescription.

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just wanted to say good job on keeping clean