Smoking Amantia Muscaria ?

[mikey york]

I have a friend who has recently got his hands on some fly agarics. He says he wants to smoke them, but he hasn't heard that much about it, only that it works.does anyoneelse know someone who hastried this. Most of the experience reports ive read on this shroom sound pretty good andhe was wondering if u get the same effects from smoking them(if milder)as u do fromeating them.


Thank u for any replies...

[Phungushead]

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Smoking them is mellower than eating them... there's still kind of mixed
views on this, but most people report that it's basically like a heavy
weed buzz.

[Ninja Master]

ive been told its a waste of time and tastes like shit by several
swims. im personaly affraid of amanita, but have TONS upon TONS
of it. ive basicly druged my self out of the drug game. i
like pot, thats about it. i could smoke a chronic doobie several
times per day. anything else, forget about it!

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[wovotom]

aminta fuk'd me up eating them.....i mean horrendouslly bad,i had voilent sikness for bout 20 seconds bout 5 hours afta i taken them....never agen!!!!they maybe illegal afta november 20th 2005

[Ninja Master]

could you link me to the article your getting this date from. i
highly doubt they will make them illegal. buy a spruce tree, its
like buying an amanita factory.

[big-lester]

but does smoking Amanita avoid the nasau of it? I think I would never
eat them because there to many negative things about it (the nasau and
because it doesn't works every time, don't wanna get nasau for a couple
hours and don't feel a thing after that)

[Phungushead]

I don't know if smoking the amanitas totally eliminates the nausea or
not, but as a precaution I do know that a lot of people who smoke
amanita mix it with a little weed. That also helps make the smoke a little
less harsh.

[mikey york]

Im wanting to try some. A heavy weed buzz sounds nice to me. I have some now but im only 97% confident that i actually have muscaria, and the possibilitys with that other 3% scare the crap out of me.


I would post some pics if i knew how.Edited by: mikey york

[Phungushead]

I'm pretty sure you have to be standard member (20 posts) to upload
pictures (then it's the little button with the tree and arrow next to the
font color button).

[mikey york]

Thank you, i didn't know that.

Ive had my shroom IDed positive now, im just waiting for it to dry .

I read a post recently where someone said :"PS: don't drink milk or anything dairy produced it'll make u very ill and may even KIll you."

Do you know if theres any truth in this.

I know they used to mix muscaria with milk to make a fly catcher, hench the name fly agarics, but i didnt think milk actually reacted with the agaric to make something lethal.

What do you think about this one.

[Phungushead]

As far as I know, mixing milk with amanita won't kill you or anything. In
fact, there are several reports of people having very strong trips when
taking amanita mixed with milk. Milk is known to help speed absorption.

I would bet that whoever posted that was going off that fly thing, but
agaric+milk didn't even really kill the flies, it would just stun them. If
they didn't fall into the milk mixture and drown or get squished by
anyone, they would recover a little while later and go on their way.

[Chaote]

I smoked about a bowl and i would say it is less than a weed buzz, possibly just a placebo and i must say it tasted like urine

[Emperiorjack]

Its definately not a placebo but it is mild like a tobacco buzz but more enjoyable with a slight improvement in sight. I would love to smoke almost pure muscimol to see what its like.

[kurz]

I've tried Amanitas for couple of occasions. In Finland they are easily found in fall. For me they haven't done lots. Mild effect wich might be placebo. Tried also smoking it, mild effect too, somewhat drowsy and littlebit euphoric feeling. My brother had, however, and had one intense trip and extreme euforia. We made two cups of tea.

[genaro]

NEVER USE THE FRESH MUSHROOM (fresh amanita muscaria is toxic !)

Picking the shrooms:
I use to collect only the shroom caps (and leave the stem).
You will find amanita muscaria growing wild in forest, from july to november (the best period beeing august-september).
It often grows where ceps do grow (so if you know about an area where one can find ceps this is a good place to go for amanita muscaria hunting.
You will find amanita muscaria in mountain & forest areas where there are birch (especially silver birch) or conifers such as fir trees or pines (the shroom will be growing in the shade of these trees or under some bush of the area if the trees are scattered)
You will probably find more shrooms if it's been raining for a few days, followed by a few (2-3) sunny days (as humidity and heat is good for mushrooms).
Amanita muscaria is very easy to identify (a redish or orange cap with small whitish spots on it). If you don't know what I'm talking about, just get an illustrated mushroom picking guide.
If you have any doubts identifying a mushroom, just don't pick it (for instance if the mushroom has been too damaged by the weather so you cannot clearly identify it)
Don't ever pick shrooms in a polluted area (for instance near a highway) as mushrooms acts just like sponges, absorbing all the toxins around them which could make you seriously sick (for the same reason I use not to pick Amanita Muscaria specimens which are growing just next to a deadly shroom such as Amanita Virosa or Amanita Phalloides)

Conservation:
A.muscaria shrooms will rot quickly (within a few days) unless you dry them within 2days. The problem is that drying can be very difficult (even if you place the shrooms in the oven) as these shrooms are saturated with water (I never succeeded in drying these).
So here's how I proceed:

12 hours at most (!) after picking the shroom caps, take a glass jar with lid and poor some quantity of strong drinkable (!) alcohol...anything which is 45-50% alcohol at least such as white rhum or vodka will do the trick, but the highest alcohol % the better (I use 96% drinkable alcohol which is sold for distillating liquors). One glass of 96% alcohol or 2 glasses of vodka will be enough.
Then quickly wash the shrooms under fresh water and cut these into very small peaces. Place as much shroom pieces as you can in the jar, the less air left the better (I suggest you compress the shroom pieces so you can add more until the jar is filled to the brim). Once the jar is filled add a little more alcohol to cover the shrooms and close the jar tightly. Store the jar in the fridge (or in a cool & dark place)...this all procedure is intended to prevent the shrooms from rotting if you don't prepare them immediatly.
Try not to store them for too long (let the shrooms soak in the jar for a week and then prepare them).

Preparation of Soma:
Place the content of the jar in a blender (the shrooms in the jar should have released their water resulting in some messy paste with red-brownish juice).
Blend them into the consistency of a "soup".
Place this mixture in a pan. Place this pan in a bigger one filled with boiling water. Place a glass plate over the shroom pan to prevent excessive evaporation. Boil this for 3 hours.
Note that cooking amanitas stink, it will smell bad in the all room, better do it in a well ventilated room, with all windows opened or under the hood).
Filter through a piece of cloth (press/squeeze well to recover all the juice from the shroomy mush)
Then filter the obtained juice through a cofee filter to get rid of the remaining small particles (don't press/squeeze this time). This might take quite some time.
You should end up with a clear redish-orange juice.
Place all the juice in a large and shallow pyrex glass dish. Place this dish over a pan of boiling water until the liquid is evaporated, leaving a redish-brownish sticky residue. Scrap the residue with a razor blade.

Conservation:
Place the residue in an airtight jar with lid, close it tightly and place it in a cool, dark and dry place (or in the fridge if you're sure that no water will enter the airtight jar).
To avoid oxydation, I tend to use a tiny enough airtight container so the Soma paste fill it to the brim so there's little air space left in it (I use small plastic photo film boxes, which are airtight usually).
Try not to keep it for too long (I suggest to use it within 6month at most).

Use:
The Soma extract can either be smoked or eaten.

Smoking:
Smoking will provide some definite relaxation with some "space", "weird" feeling associated to it. It's quite pleasant but the "high" (if one can call it that way) is much less strong than a marijuana buzz.
To smoke it, take a cigarette. Remove the filter without damaging the yellow part of the cigarette envelope, and replace it with a piece of rolled paper.
Make lots of very small holes all around the white part of trhe cigarette envelope (using a needle or toothpick). Spread some Soma paste all over it (don't put to much or the cigarette won't burn, just spread a very thin layer of extract all over the cigarette until there's no "white paper" left to be seen).
Then take a cigarette paper (what is the english world for it? Rolling paper? you know, the paper stuff you roll your joints with), and stick it all around the cigarette (over the soma paste).
And just smoke it ! I suggest you keep each toke in your lungs for 5 seconds for maximum effects.
Note that the thick Soma paste often prevents the cigarette from burning well and you might need to strike it quite often (alsmost at each toke if you did spread a layer of extract that wasn't thin enough to allow good combustion).

[Nagognog2]

Bongo had no problems with drying these. He cut the stems into 8 pieces, and the caps into 8th's as well - like a pizza. Places these on a clean metal baking sheet and placed into a pre-heated 140F (60C) oven. Once they were dried and would snap in half when bent, like a cracker, they were placed into a clean glass jar. No problem at all.

[fatal]

swim said he has smoked this mushroom many a time. it is better to use the loose material as opposed to the caps... but the caps work also... just smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke until you start to feel fucked up... you will notice... dont use water. much better than eating them generally ... will produce visuals of a halfcaptivating fever-dreamish psychedelic variety. things move. things move that are not there... some coloring... nothing as major as a huge hit of dmt mind you.

[kalininin]

so uh, this means nice or not nice at all? sounds like latter, or is there some euphoria after fucked-up stage?

[ejbot]

swim just smoked a bowl of amanita 10x resin from an online vendor, hard to light but smokable. 30 minutes in im starting to see glowing outlines of objects and fields of color mixed with a little high grade chronic mind you ^_^

[Dracula]

SWIM had a very similar experience from purchasing amanita 10x resin. When it comes to dried material, SWIM prefers to mix it up ground with white lily and some calea z and smoke a couple of joints before or after some weed. This produced a very relaxed and comfortable experience, definitely no nausea.

[an_apple_a_day]

My friend thinks smoking Amanitas is the best way. He tried eating them (from the same batch) and got no effects.

I have another friend that thinks eating them is best... I guess everyone is different.

[CoryInJapan]

Originally Posted by Phungushead

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but most people report that it's basically like a heavy
weed buzz.

Swim has tried this as Swim had 1oz and tried differnt methods and smoking was exactly that.For this Swim atleast

[ekutoru]

Swim has dry amanita but it smells like urine... is this good or bad?

[AtomicMushRoom]

well smell is quite subjective thing and smell of ones urine even more
I wouldnt say that its quite like urine, but there surely is some similar acidic trace. I would rather consider how they look.

[hairy-pothead]

swims tryed it its wank just munsh emm its way more fun