alcohol and x

[whereareyou]

is there any danger linking alcohol to ecstacy? one of my friends drank a moderate amount on friday night, then did x and seemed completely fine, in fact, i think he had a better trip than all of us. the x hit him faster and he was loving it. he also got a good night of sleep while none of us fell asleep at all. so im wondering, is this a common reaction or usually do you feel sick if you mix these two? im not saying im very enthuiastic about drinking and then doing x, however, i would like to be able to go to sleep and the alcohol seemed to have that effect on him. has anyone had any experience with this? i loved x by itself so i dont really care but like i said, sleeping would be nice, but not neccesary.

[ambrosius]

Combining alcohol with any upper will increase its effects. You may not notice the alcohol buzz, but you're drunker than you think.


You also increase the risk of dehydration.

[umich]

Yes, the main reason you shouldnt drink while rolling is because it increases the risk of hydration. Personally, I dont care to take anything else while I roll because I dont feel it necessary as the x is strong enough. As long as you keep hydrated, than a little bit of drinking is not a problem. I've heard of people having a few drinks on the comedown to help them get to sleep...But the problem starts when you put other drugs in the equation. Dont get out of hand cause it will lead to trouble...Good luck

[markdahman]

Yeah drinking and x makes me sleep near the end of the night and then the next morning i dont really remember anything everythings very unclear after combining the 2.

[oggy]

I like to have a fewdrinks before x then just drink water whenon it and drink when I get home. I find the drink helps with the come up and the come down.

[Tony Blair]

Few beers is good, overdo it and you forget large chunks.

[Nature Boy]

Yeah, cut back on the drinks (no need to stop entirely, a beer or twowhile rolling can be quite pleasant) and try to remain hydrated. Your best bet is to save most of your booze until afterwards so you can drink yourself to sleep. Pot is also a necessity for this IMO.

[whereareyou]

yeah i actually had a couple shots of vodka when i started to come down, however apparently they didnt have an effect because i was still wide awake the entire night.

[Nagognog2]

Actually, alcohol is contraindicated for insomnia as alcohol initially acts as a CNS stimulant - followed by having a depressant action. A cup or two of Kava~Kava made with warm milk would be a better bet.

[xpr´k]

Originally Posted by whereareyou

yeah i actually had a couple shots of vodka when i started to come down, however apparently they didnt have an effect because i was still wide awake the entire night.

weird ive never had any trouble falling asleep on MDMA (maybe your pills got some meth in em??)


In fact when the MDMA wears out i usually fall asleep wherever i stand or sit. 2 rolls ago i suddenly woke up sitting with my head in my hands at my computer and when i looked at the clock 4 hours had past since i last realised being awake. Its one of the reasons XTC is my favourite drug, no problems whatsoever to sleep.


On topic: most friends of mine drink pretty large ammounts of alcohol while rolling (10+ 25cc beers) . In fact they hardly ever drink anything else during there roll. As far as hangovers go i'm pretty sure there's are worse then mine (i never drink beer after i dropped a pill). They also act alot more fucked up then me (annoys me lately ) . But ive never seen anyone OD'ing because of it,BUT we dont go to parties much so dehydration is less of an issue. I wouldnt advise drinking as much as my m8's do in a room stacked with people and a 30°+ ambient temperature. Thats a 1 way ticket to the ER!Edited by: xpr´k

[kieran]

i always drink alcohol when im rolling, and its true you dont realise how drunk you are, but then when the E wears off, you have the effect of the alcohol, so its all good, and i never have trouble sleeping after a night of beans and alcohol.

[Dr.Smurf]

yeah same here i always drink while iam rolling.. and drink quite
alot.. never got any problems while sleeping.. once fucking fell sleep
in da club when E warmed off..

[big-lester]

I never drink on X, I not an alcohol fan I rather stick to weed but I
now 2 SWIMS that had been drinking a lot on X, one of them was vomiting
the whole night

[ramjet]

I've had some REALLY messy experiences with alcohol and E. I usually find the comedown is a lot worse too, because it is combined with a hangover from the alcohol (I guess you could always just keep on drinking - not sure if I would recommend it though).I try not to combine the two. Maybe my bad experiences have been of the result of the fact that I didn't realise how drunk I was and drank way too much.

[devil]

This really varies. SWIM for one never have problems with mixing the
two (X + booze), but some of SWIM's friends cannot mix them at all.

[devil]

actually, SWIM would say that he can drink more while on E.

[billyloner]

used to drink a few before taking e, to get me in the mood and stuff. dont anymore, had a really scary experience and it put me off. plus i prefer the feeling of the e on its own to e and booze. its quite different, down to personal opinion i guess.


oh yeah, i also find i can drink more when on e, specially coming down and the next day. in fact, drinking booze the next day is fantastic and highly recommended Edited by: billyloner

[Tony Blair]

Originally Posted by billyloner

in fact, drinking booze the next day is fantastic and highly recommended

I dont think you'll find anyone who disagree's with that

[420whiteboy420]

Hi, just woundering what is it like to get laid when your on e and drunk at the same time

[Nagognog2]

Generally, MDMA interferes with the ability to maintain erection and achive orgasm, as does alcohol. So I would sum it up with one word: Frustrating. This is from a male perspective. Any females care to comment?

[pharmapsyche]

SWIM did a little research on this subject, SWIM has tryed MDMA before, but never with Alcohol, only marijuana. SWIM's experience was great. SWIM couldn't imagine wanting to drink Alcohol while on MDMA, but also, she isn't a big fan of Alcohol.


SWIM knows that mixing Alcohol with a Stimulant isn't a 'healthy idea', and found a little bit of information to back that up. SWIM read in a study that 72% of all Emergency room visits involving MDMA, Alcohol was involved too. SWIM would understand how someone could fall asleep easier on MDMA, if Alcohol was swallowed too, since Alcohol is a depressant intoxicant, and gives off effects of relaxation, drowsiness, lowered inhibitions.


MDMA and a controlled amount of Alcohol should be fine, but just keep in mind that when mixing the two you are increasing your risk of nausea, vomiting, and most importantly dehydration. You defiantly would want to make sure you keep water in your system at all times, espeically if you were moving around or sweating alot.


Enjoy, but be safe!Edited by: pharmapsyche

[Nagognog2]

TY. But I believe the boy was asking about getting laid, yes? Can you assist him with some advice there, please?

[devil]

in general, a lot of guys have problems getting and maintaining an erection. SWIM never has a problem doing so, but it takes longer to achieve orgasm. But the sex is terrific.

[brink]

SWIM wondereded if you guys think a couple shots will do the trick for a first attempt at the mix; he wants to take it easy but also what it feels like. Also, how much more water if recommended?

[Psych0naut]

For every glas of alcohol, take one glass of water.Milk would be even better because it neutralises some of the toxic byproducts from alcohol.
And about drinking on X.SWIM hates to drink much alcohol while on X, as it tastes way to bitter for SWIM.He usually takes G to boost the euphoria of X.