Golden Rules for meth/amph. users

[wertfun]

Now I tell good advices inculuding my experiences.


# Never use together with the person who you buy amph. from


We can say like this, too. DO NOT BECOME A FRIEND WITH THE PERSON WHO YOU BUY AMPH. FROM. I did. Never again.


# Never get amph. by geting into debt, even one time


Clearly understood. This puts you down class and more important amph. is not fun anymore.


# Never give the money before you get amph. if you can try it first even better


This makes you proud of yourself, job well done, good shoping etc. now you can have fun.Also waiting the amph. after you give the money is making stress and starting paronoia.


# Pay all the bills even for the next at least two weeks before you take amph.


This is a big golden rule for me. This totally effects the time of with the drug having fun or being paronoia. If youworry before you take amph. you have bills to payor homeworks to do, or you haveany responsibelitiesthat you woory about.Dont even take a little bit amph.


# Clean your house,do theloundry, wash the dishes before you take amph.


I noticed that mess(dissorder)makes the paranoia.


# Trust yourself but never take it too serious.


In the beggining we generally take too serious even we dont show it anybody, but even in the beggining dont take it too serious. it is just amph. dont make it too serious.


# Dont make business or go school or be in the family


If you are just a begiiner, I mean in the beginnig. First weight your self. First learn to RECOGNIZE YOURSELF when u use amph.


# Never give big decisions.(Dont take it too serious)


You know how amph. effects you. If u are not sure that you can find it when u need. Nobody can be. So, be aware of it that that is just for a while.I can tell lots of things about this this related with all the subject. Like dont make business or make bussines if you already have your own strict principles and do not break principles in the effect of amph. (This was good lets make this golden adwise)


# Dont break princeples in the effection of amph.


If you can do that.Not easy.


# Make your own drug using princeples if you are going to use that regularly


Make.


# Dont shoot if you have more then 5 gr and more then 2 needles in the same time


Clear? Probably u are going to shoot untill the and of the drug. If you dont have your own, very strictdrug using princeples. Like, shoot just inthe morning never second no way. And make this a big princeple in the beginnig throw the needle away after using. In the future it wont be a problem.


# Protect yoursellf in the 2. , 3. and 4. days after u use last time


From every body. Especially from girlfriend or partner. If you make business with out strict princeples be sure that you are loosing. Every word u say proofs that u are a looser. (this dosnt happens every time but if you didnt pay the bills sure happens)


# Do not speak


Do not speak much. No body listens that much bullshid. Dont spend your timewith speaking, have fun instead of it. The effection will go in a few hours.


# Sleep


Very important f**k everything and go to sleep. One knight awake ok but second night starts paranoia. Remember you can sleep even if you use amph. Be an adult and go to sleep


# Drink much if you are psychologicaly not good


Stop using and drink much to get rid of it as quick as possible. Little alchool will help, too. Dont try use again to make things better I know you awoid doing this but find out a way to do. Because in this position continueing using it makes everything worse. Stop and wait 3-4 days then put every thing in order .

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	its good youre looking out!
	good rules

[daeron]

and youve forgot the only golden rule that comes w shooting amph/meth-if SWIY are to shoot it up, make it as clean as possible-either from the um...RB itself w all the recrysts. in IPA or if SWIY is buying it from the street clean it, and again...and again.

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you are also sincere!

[wertfun]

OK now I see

[wertfun]

Never thought before that it is a Golden Rule. BUt right it is.

[wertfun]

I just wanna add;

#eat well
like protein. Helps very much to your sex life. Carbodhydrates efects in negative way sex. eating also helps going to sleep and keeping away from paronia.

[giggles]

any more advice on how to look after yourself on speed ???

i take dexedrine for adhd and my dose is very high (18 pills per day) this is all above board and approved by my dr and psych at maudsley hospital but it dont half make me feel shit most of the time

if anyone can help me out with a bit of info about tyrosine and vitimins and stuff like that id really appreciate it,

one other thing,,,if u can prtend u r posting to a dimwit and not use too many long words that would be fantastic,,and easy on my brain,,,im an adder remember

[Beeker]

My best friend in High School died at 28 froma 10 year Meth addiction. I'm not sure any rules can be safe for some.

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Amen brother, I am sick of going to funerals of friends who can't kick.

[wertfun]

Originally Posted by giggles

any more advice on how to look after yourself on speed ???

i take dexedrine for adhd and my dose is very high (18 pills per day) this is all above board and approved by my dr and psych at maudsley hospital but it dont half make me feel shit most of the time

if anyone can help me out with a bit of info about tyrosine and vitimins and stuff like that id really appreciate it,

one other thing,,,if u can prtend u r posting to a dimwit and not use too many long words that would be fantastic,,and easy on my brain,,,im an adder remember

These are all, each one about looking after yourself. Swim is not an edicted like that, he likes to use it for fun, these adwises all about looking after yourself when you are having fun, being safe. The biggest adwise I can give you change reason why you are using it for. eg. for fun? maybe something else but dont make it the meaning of your life. First do your homework then go to play. Slowly slowly change your style. Have fun when u use it, if so believe me u can eat like a normal person. You cant have fun every day so you have to give breaks( make business, daily stuff, school or something like that). If u notice that its not fun anymore stop it for a while, just like that, no other way!

[giggles]

i have adhd,,that is the reason i take dexedrine,,,

[wertfun]

I wish luck for you, that needs real profesional help as you do. I hope I could help a little at least.

[giggles]

my meds are prescribed not dodgy,,,
but not a lot of info on how to maintain best heath if u take dexedrine is available,,,i know tyrosine is important and was hoping somone could give a bit of advice on that sort of thing,

[wertfun]

SWIW couldn't do amph. now for 6 months because he broke his own rules above. Ones more see that those rules are good.

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He sticking to his rules that he made.

[old hippie 56]

Stick by your rules, wertfun. If you can't trust your own judgement about responsible drug use, it is time to quit for a while or a lifetime. You made some good rules to go by.

Giggles; try and take a break on the weekends from the dex, catch up on your sleep and eating, don't go overboard on the food, but do eat. Taking as many pills as you do, you need to take a multi-vitamin with breakfast.

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Very clear, warm adwise

[wertfun]

Originally Posted by old hippie 56

Stick by your rules, wertfun. If you can't trust your own judgement about responsible drug use, it is time to quit for a while or a lifetime. You made some good rules to go by

Thanks for your adwise, I made my rules but later on I dont know why I broke my rules and one by one in the end I had stop all. I quited 6 months ago already. My point was making rules is much easier then obeying them. I remember the first rule I broke was again, to use with the person who you buy it from.

[OldTex]

Originally Posted by giggles

i have adhd,,that is the reason i take dexedrine,,,

I take dex now for 3 years. (60mg/day) that is six tabs , man 18 pills? what is that six 5mg 3x a day? Try getting 10mg tabs or 15mg caps so it would be less $$$.
As for vitamins, although vitamin C is working against the Dex (by flushing it out in your pee) But it is good to take some vitamin C. Just take it at night.
Be careful with A and E because they will build up in your liver if take too much. But U need the como of A, B's, C and E. They all work together . Each one helps the other ones to work. ( so, like C helps the A to absorb and A helps the B's and E to absorb. ) Most likely U will want sub-lingual B vitamins.
BTW antiacids will make Dex stay in U for longer. But dont take them alot because it makes toxins build up over time.
Get some L-Phenylalanine and take every day will help Dex work better.
Drink alot of WATER, not juice, or soda pop. Man WATER will help way big time.
Greasy food will squish the absobstion of Dex. So if you R like me and R
fond of cheese, then, dose a hour or so before the jumbo pizza pie or the lasagna.
Hey only ADHD/ADD people have hyperthreading multitasking brains. WE are the normal ones. Everyone else has puny and non-powerful thoughts, they cant understand what it is like to do 75 things at once .
Hey, did U know 9 out of 10 of the big Company Executives are ADD?
WE ARE Running the world, but we are considered disability. Go figure.
P E A C E be with you.

[Ahuaeynjx]

Can't beleive they prescribe amphetamine to people... they must be stupid thinking it will fix the problem for good ; it's more like one of those smurf bandages put upon an infected wound with no disinfectant !

I would suggest of course the classical :

-L-Tyrosine 500mg / 2 times a day
-5-HTP 500mg/ day
- Taurine, gaba, arginine and glutamine 500mg/day + 30 g of whey or hemp proteins
- 3-5 grams of essential fatty acids !
-St-john's wort
-Ginseng and natural energy and focus boosters to cut down on the high-dose dexedrine.

Nobody needs to take a multi-vitamin ! Again it's like those concentrated toxic stuff they throw in public pools not too sure what it will do inside your body, you piss 90% anyways, if SWIY have major deficiency ok ! Aim for natural vitamins there are plenty of sources like chlorella and spirulina, bee pollen, berries and fruits. Absolutely take ionic (dissolved and naturally occuring) minerals, colloids will help too. Remember, no sex on stimulants ! Where did they get that carbohydrates are a negative to sex ?! One needs energy to go for hours at a time, carbohydrates are just good, especially the complex ones.

Of course you can have a multi-tasking brain without having all the problems, especially inability to meditate and slow one's perception of time ; which is why they call it a disorder. Some might want to read this course ; it's free and full (I know the link points to a somehow commercial site, please remove link if innapropriate)

http://www.rexresearch.com/kahne/kahne.htm

Namase,

Ahu

[SHARDSOLDIER]

The Golden Rule, "do The Drug Dont, Let It Do You"

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simply

[izzy31]

definitely eat and sleep. SWIM eats regularly on speed because he gets lightheaded without food (and water) magnificent set of rules btw - all great tips.

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good that you simplify the rules

[allyourbase]

- people who regularly use amphetamines should stay hydrated, preferably with distilled water, this will help fight against meth mouth
-avoid mirrors after second redose
-calcium carbonate antacids will make the drug last longer and provide a source of calcium to lessen bone loss from using such drugs
- youre not that interesting, stop talking when it seems the person or persons youre talking to have stopped listening
- even god rested on the seventh day (it is ok to go to sleep sometimes)

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avoid mirrors after second redose is good

[wertfun]

"avoid mirrors after second redose" is hell good

[wertfun]

Originally Posted by wertfun

# Pay all the bills even for the next at least two weeks before you take amph.


This is a big golden rule for me. This totally effects the time of with the drug having fun or being paronoia. If youworry before you take amph. you have bills to payor homeworks to do, or you haveany responsibelitiesthat you woory about.Dont even take a little bit amph.


.

As it is read and understood Swim used amph. just for fun those times. Now realized that people shouldn't use it *just* for fun. So, this rule may be not a rule anymore for me. Swim gonna try before paying the bills (tough.. they never ends, lol) and dont want to have big fun.

Lately remembered old hippie's and edited this post...

Originally Posted by old hippie 56

Stick by your rules, wertfun. If you can't trust your own judgement about responsible drug use, it is time to quit for a while or a lifetime. You made some good rules to go by

So!... stick by rules... Be patient... be patient.....be patient...

[cyndi]

# Never use together with the person who you buy amph. from

With a dealer you do not know it isn't wise.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

If someone gets addicted to meth swim doubts even all the rules and safety in the world can prevent something from going wrong eventually.This is just an outsiders observation though,swim is not addicted to meth and has never used it.

[old hippie 56]

Originally Posted by Orchid_Suspiria

If someone gets addicted to meth swim doubts even all the rules and safety in the world can prevent something from going wrong eventually.This is just an outsiders observation though,swim is not addicted to meth and has never used it.

As with any substance with abuse potential.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

This is true as with almost any drug with abuse potential.Perhaps if we lived in a different world where drugs were viewed differently and the laws were different this would not be the case.On the other hand from what swim has seen of meth even if it were legal it might still cause some problems.