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Old 27-04-2010, 20:32
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5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

5-IAI trip reports

Please add your experiences with 5-IAI here. Please add dosage, route and duration to the top of your post like this:

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Old 15-05-2010, 23:17
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

Really? No one's tried this yet?

There's so much hype over the rat discrimination study, I'd have thought at least someone would have given it a go by now.
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Old 16-05-2010, 03:10
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

I should imagine no-one has posted a TR yet because they are all still waiting patiently for their site to finally post that they have 5-IAI in stock. There's going to be a mad frenzy when the first retailer starts so their prices will probably shoot up

It's like searching for an ice-cream van in the middle of winter at the moment, but i believe we're looking at another week - two weeks (unless any-one knows any different)

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Old 18-05-2010, 16:23
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

I had a dream that my cat was inquiring about obtaining 5-IAI and got the following e-mail from a foreign chemical manufacturer:

"Have you purchased the prod of 5-Iodo-2-aminoindane, if not, we can offer the prod of N-(5-iodo-2,3-dihydro-1H-inden-2-yl)acetamide since the former is not stable."

I'm no chemist and neither is my cat, but the phrase "not stable" does not sound good.

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Old 18-05-2010, 16:57
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

That the molecule is not stable, means that the 5-Iodo-2-aminoindane will degrade into other compound(s). I'd be very interested to know what compound(s) that are.
The other compounds may be harmless, toxic, illegal or psychoactive. So its not unimportant.
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Old 18-05-2010, 17:06
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

considerring the source of the claim would take it with a boulder sized grain of salt. 5-iai is one of David Nichols creations, and a fair bit of research with it, and no such indications of instability that I have run across.
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

SWIM apologises for the lack of real extensive detail in this report - he tested the substance while out at a rather awesome ravey-esque club night, living an ordinary life in an extraordinary way. He was with his girlfriend and her best friend at the time. Details are as follows:

"SWIM Stats:
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Previous drug experience
MDMA, cocaine, weed, alcohol, mephedrone, methylone, MDAI

SWIM's girlfriend stats:
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Previous drug experience
Weed, alcohol, mephedrone, methylone, MDAI

The 5IAI was pungest smelling, white crystalline. Tasted tangy.

We made up some premade bombs, ranging 50mg to 100mg. We initially started on 100mg, and left it an hour to see what would happen. In the mean time we stood around outside, having a cigarette or two (don't usually smoke, evil stuff, but it makes me feel cool when out and about, so sod it). There were a couple of times when the girlfriend felt she might be getting something, but thought it may have just been a mild nicotine high. The friend also felt nothing.

After an hour, bombed another 100mg. Again, stood around, getting a little frustrated, with nothing obvious happening. We played with lego. Another hour passed, girlfriend bombed 200mg, I did 100. The results were the same. But this point we had pretty much given up, and so decided to go off and dance a bit. Hours followed, we ended up back home by about 5am, and the lot of us decided to spend a morning on MDAI. We found the MDAI a much more enjoyable and obvious experience...

The next night the girlfriend tried snoring 100mg of the substance, but again there were no obvious effects within the hour.

In summary, highly disappointing. However, it may be that the threshold dose is higher than 200mg in one go... I remember reading one report about MDAI where the experimenter felt nothing, absolutely nothing, at 300mg. At 400mg however, they experience a rather nice high.

More testing is needed."

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Old 04-06-2010, 20:38
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

What was the lab test? If it were a proper "lab test" it would reveal the compound name, which NRG2 is not, it is an obfuscation.

It could be that what is currently being sold as 5-IAI and NRG-2 are the same thing but there is no way of knowing without proper analysis, pill testing kits don't count as proper analysis.

For what it's worth swim's "5-iai" (inverted commas as he's not convinced it is) reacted exactly the same as another one of the new generation of things that also hides behind an obfuscated name, n-cat, on his full pill testing kit.

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Old 04-06-2010, 22:57
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

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What was the lab test? If it were a proper "lab test" it would reveal the compound name, which NRG2 is not, it is an obfuscation.

It could be that what is currently being sold as 5-IAI and NRG-2 are the same thing but there is no way of knowing without proper analysis, pill testing kits don't count as proper analysis.

For what it's worth swim's "5-iai" (inverted commas as he's not convinced it is) reacted exactly the same as another one of the new generation of things that also hides behind an obfuscated name, n-cat, on his full pill testing kit.
Yea sorry I should have made that clearer. The conclusion that it was NRG-2 was arrived at on the basis that the "5-IAI" trip report was similar to NRG-2 trip reports and that the "lab test" found no traces of actual 5-IAI in whatever SWIM had. I don't know if the test found out what the actual chemical was, just that no 5-IAI was found in it.
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Old 06-06-2010, 13:53
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

Male 36 around 71kg Drug experience....most chemicals ive every read about, and more
Already taken today and every day for the past 4 years - script of 16mg orally daily subutex and 20mg Diazepam from 50 mg possible.

Female 23 around 51kg - Drug experience - Heroin (non Iv) Mushrooms, MDMA (pure crystals) same as above for past 2.5 years.

SACK and his G/F did 1g of MDAi and 5IAI on friday night we started with 50mg of 5IAI initially insuflated for illergic reaction identification...all ok.
After Plenty research we decided to do the gram in 100mg dosages every 30 mins untill good effect. SACK felt after 25 mins mild MDMA (mandy) effect, SACK's G/F felt after 90 mins after insuflating 100 mg MDAi on top. SACK personally felt the MDAi (sparkle) to be very different from the Tan version so beleives this could be NRG-2 it was not NRG-1 as SACK finds this no stronger than coffee.
After 2 hours and around 0.5 gram of each Chem (100% 5IAI) and (MDAi sparkle) (poss NRG-2). SACK and G/F felt amazingly horny and spent 3 hours engaging in sexual activity.
In refelction the 5IAI is worth an experience, MDAi sparkle was not the same as the tan MDAi which SACK found to be similar to 5IAI but milder. Sex was good, SACK was aware of the definition of colours and had out of normal character thinking. SACK's G/F had many orgasm's and felt really horny for around 7 hours although it took her 2 hours to really feel the 5IAI. Both were very chatty and empathic with each other and the universe.

Will try 6-APDB next w/k end with a side order of 5IAI.
Will let you know.

Have fun

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Old 18-06-2010, 19:52
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

SWIM is aware that very few vendors have this in stock at the moment, but he did find one who curiously was selling it at a "discount" which made SWIM suspicious to say the least. Having said that SWIM purchased 1g as it was so cheap.

Substance came with no markings apart from "Not for human consumption". Bad first impression. Substance appears pure white and has a sweet, soapy kind of smell as was noted by another poster earlier in the thread. Not unpleasant.

SWIM measured 1mg for an allergy test. Taste was slightly salty. No effects were noted apart from a noticeable numbing of the tongue where it had been placed. This numbing sensation subsided into a kind of burnt tongue feeling, but was gone after a few hours.

Having read some other posts SWIM thinks this may be NRG-2, but as no one even knows what this is yet, SWIM is thinking that binning is the best option.
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Old 03-07-2010, 13:11
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

dose'nt sound like a very interesting chemical

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Old 03-07-2010, 14:24
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

SWIM doesn't think anyone yet has had any real 5-IAI. More like dodgy vendors getting rid of anything they have as 5-IAI. Swim got something that claimed to be 5-IAI and it smelled exactly the same as some 4-FMC he had recieved long ago before the ban.
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Old 05-07-2010, 23:18
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

I won't post a detailed report this time as SWIM's experience was some months ago but I will next time.

SWIM found 5IAI very interesting - only mild stimulation, mild euphoria and relatively short lasting BUT the empathy was quite something. Really, it was way above anything he has gotten from anything other than MDMA and actually more than any of his recent MDMA experiences (he has been taking MD since 2000). It also seemed to last longer tha any of the other effects.

It is also worth noting that there was zero hangover of any description. ZERO.
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Old 06-07-2010, 14:52
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

SWIM said it arrived today, it is white and clumpy, low odur and little taste. SWIM dabbled a little on tongue for alergy test and felt slighlty happier and chattier in about 5 mins. SWIM has not tried more though and SWIM will give a more detailed report later this week (though probably not as detailed as most as silly SWIM has no 0.1g scales). SWIM is not sure if SWIM should administer orally or insufflation?

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Old 06-07-2010, 15:46
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

Oral ROA is ALWAYS preferable with a new chem. Insnuffulation may prove dangerous yet, stick with Oral.
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

swim got 5-IAI in post today. Seems ok!
small ammount, bombed, gave mild euphoria followed by chatty relaxed evening. On the whole very pleasant.

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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

SWIM said what he ordered was most likely not 5-iai. SWIM said it was a white, clumpy, odourless powder which did nothing for his plants. SWIM wonders if he can take the retailer to court via the Sale of Goods Act 1979 re: "...if you have bought something on the basis of the seller’s description or a sample, you should expect the item to conform exactly to that description or sample. If it does not, you have the right to reject the goods, demand a full refund and possibly claim damages. This is still the case even where you have selected or examined the items for yourself before buying them". SWIM believes he has a good case and presumes he just needs the product lab tested to prove what it is. SWIM thinks other persons who have been scammed by retailers should also look into taking their case to court.
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Old 29-07-2010, 19:45
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SWIM wonders if he can take the retailer to court via the Sale of Goods Act 1979
If the distributor is UK based then certainly misrepresentating products violates a number of consumer laws. The problem is in bringing a case SWIY would have to provide some explanation of what the product was intended for, and why they believe it to be misrepresented. Since these chemicals are typically sold for research purposes, unless SWIY can demonstrate ties to legitimate research, the vendor could argue the product was purchased under false pretences.

As SWIY says, it would need to be lab tested to prove misrepresentation. If one adds up the cost of getting this done and the time and effort required to follow it through, the compensation is unlikely to be worthwhile. It may also attract unwanted legal attention as anything presented in the case is on the record.

If the vendor is a decent human being they will offer to refund or replace the product no questions asked. If not, probably best to chalk it up to experience and write it off. There will come a time when some of the UK vendors are taken to task for their irresponsible practices, but it is probably for the best not to make a one SWIM crusade of it.

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Level headed, rational advice. As always.
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

SWIM recieved a special delivery of allegedly 5-iai today. The label states the usual...chemical name and structure and not for human consumption. This was bought from a reputable internet vendor who she purchased Mephedrone from about a year ago which was the best swim ever had both before and after the ban. It is a very clean looking white powder with such small crystals that it makes it look like it has glitter in it. There is no smell and very little taste.....swim and friend plan to experiment with this exciting new chemical at the weekend however is a little anxious that still no one seems to think that they have had the REAL 5iai....swim has read all literature available on this chemical so far and plans to ingest at hourly intervals however is not 100% sure on what dosage to use as yet......any educated guesses?????
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SWIM recieved a special delivery of allegedly 5-iai today. The label states the usual...chemical name and structure and not for human consumption. This was bought from a reputable internet vendor who she purchased Mephedrone from about a year ago which was the best swim ever had both before and after the ban. It is a very clean looking white powder with such small crystals that it makes it look like it has glitter in it. There is no smell and very little taste.....swim and friend plan to experiment with this exciting new chemical at the weekend however is a little anxious that still no one seems to think that they have had the REAL 5iai....swim has read all literature available on this chemical so far and plans to ingest at hourly intervals however is not 100% sure on what dosage to use as yet......any educated guesses?????
I also aquired 5-iai for a FOAF today. Thinking it is legit as Vendor is one used before and also they have only started selling it only recently unlike many other Vendors. It is also white crystals that sort of glitter. I will post results of FOAF'S testing.

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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

1g of 5-iai
1 bottle of white wine
2ltrs of cider.
Soooo.... swim and friend tested out the 5-iai as mentioned ^^^^..
both female....swim and friend both 11st, swims previous experience 15 years numerous substances...swims friend cannabis and cocaine on rare occassions.
Earlier today small amound rubbed on gums for allergic reaction, felt chattier after ten mins but wore off ten minutes later...expected good thing from this.

6 hours later Ingested 100mg of 5iai at home, diluted in water.

+45 mins felt nothing to report so ingested another 150mg diluted.

+1hr45mins felt slight alertness chatty again but very slight, no change in music enjoyment..slight feelings of empathy but nothing of great importance, so insufflated 50mg. buning sensation to nose and back of throat due to drop back, not as bad as Mephedrone however. taste is bitter but not unbareable. we start to drink some cider/wine.

+2hr 45min both not feeling anything major except very very slight mdma effects...no feelings of dehydration or changes in heart rate..

+3hrs swim feeling very slight jaw tension. both decide to got to the shop for more alcohol due to dissapointment of this substance so far. will update the trip report as this is swims story sofar..........................to be continued...............................

mrsJackson added 382 Minutes and 16 Seconds later...

Continuation from ^^^
+8 hours 1gram of 5-iai between swim and friend, have drank 3ltrs of cider and a bottle of white wine between them...
summary of the trip...very empathic drug talking deeply about life, but no euphoria no rushing feelings....stimulant effect over stimulation on come down shaking hands short in breath. alcohol making swim feel little sick due to probs fizzyness, no feelings of being under the influence of alcohol tho have drank enough to feel the efects if swim had not had 5iai... anorexic effects as per expected.
I am waffling now so that the end of the summary....dont expect to sleep for a while...all in all a drug that was dissapointing for the marketing it got expected bigger things, not worth the money in swims oppinion, but have enjoyed the experience because of the company.............maybe try benzo fury next........

Thought I needed to add an update to this... swim and friend have been unable to sleep and it is now 17hours after the last dose.. both have a shortness of breath and swims friend has had heart palpitations all throught the night. Swim feels like she doesnt want to talk to anyone becuase her brain is not functioning properly at all however is about to go to work...swim has not eaten since saturday lunch time and though knows that she needs to eat has no hunger at all. If this is 5-iai it is in my opin ion a very strong stimulant, with a long half life and needs to be taken with caution. The high was like a strong cocaine high but with empathic qualities though it was enjoyable at the time the come down and the affter effects of tghis drug over ride that enjoyness. I look forward to hearing anyone elses reports on this...................

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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

1g 5-iai - appears white, fluffy, no odour, but metallic/chemical taste.

Female, slim build (5'7, 8st), in good health.

Dosage - 30mg, 50mg, 80mg throughout the night.
Route - insufflated.

SWIM was also drinking a large amount of alcohol, but found this to be similar to mild MDMA. The only noticeable negative side effect was an increase in heart rate. Did not experience a come down. There was no noticeable euphoria or rush experienced, however, SWIM was extremely chatty and empathetic, confident, finding it easy to talk to strangers etc. A definite pleasant effect, which SWIM can only liken to (as mentioned) mild MDMA. SWIM also enjoyed dancing more than usual.

Effects lasting around 1 hour after insufflation. This did not appear to be addictive, Zopiclone was used for sleep, although SWIM believes sleep would not have been overly difficult. The next day SWIM was only really hungover.

All in all enjoyable, but also relatively mild.
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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

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what color was you powder the effects sound to swim simular to ivory wave :P, just the shortness of breath and heart palpatations all night, this is only a thought, swim is probably totaly wrong

oh and the cocaine like high without any euphoria

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Re: 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

Ivory wave is MDPV isn't it? If so, that does sound very much like it

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