Opinions - What to eat while tripping on LSD?

[gileas]

First, pre-hydrate. If you have access to compazine or phenelgren (spelling error) take some if you are a puker / nervous stomach sufferer while under the drug. Then, recall that first pre-hydrate. Recall it, do it. Drink about a liter of water an hour *before* dosing. "My Flamingo" prefer 2 liters. No gatorade, its water with LOTS of "electrolytes" (read: salts) which you do not want to oversaturate on before LSD. If you feel inclined to 'prepare' for it with artificial type 'performance enhancers' take a high quality food based multi-vitamin w/ minerals and assorted goodies like trace elements from sea salt, ginko or whatever you believe actually 'helps' you. BUT DONT take a lot. One will do, even if the label reccomends 4 a day. Too much concentrated vitamin / mineral additives are occasionally difficult to digest, and you dont want to be burping vitamin B and sea kelp - unless you do - and having it trigger a puke-fest.

"My Flamingo" also like to take a small dose of a benzo, such as Valium or Xanax, say 5mg valium or 2mg Xanax, as a relaxing agent to counteract her natural sense of impending, unavoidable collision with the Unknown, but definately weird, professional and challenging to her input/process/output performance and tendency to say things like

"Oh wow, heh, heh, like, if you really look at that tree, I mean like you see, how its doing that - hey, wow, man like, oh wow, did you... am I, I mean, you know, I know too! *giggle, hit floor with toe to see if its as squishy as it looks*, and decide what we REALLY need to make this whole thing be what it needs to be because its so, like, yeah, lets go into a really expensive French Restaurant dressed in orange jumpsuits and order dessert and some bottle of wine, because that tree, man do you see that tree?"


My Flamingo worked for the Grateful Dead from age 17 to 26, and after a few years of slave labor you start getting sheets of acid in your bonus check envelope, and after your first hundred or so shows you cannot *IMAGINE* anyone, EVER, being at a dead show and NOT taking the best, purest, gel acid which tends to basically rain from the sky into your mouth when you have an all-access pass laminate and you know how to take 3 hits of amazing acid and still manage to stand and stare at the band from the wings without doing something inappropriate and being stared at by Bill Graham. Hey, its a lot worse than it sounds, Bill had no patience with an employee with a head full of acid he indirectly provided, (say, by being the promoter and paying you to stand around with a head full of acid, which is actually a lot of fun, provided Bill didnt decide to glare at you, or maybe someone behind you, or maybe its the acid...

Jerry liked Chili Dogs on acid. I dont know how or why, but he could eat 5 of them loaded on heroine and coke and gods only know what going on in his head. My Flamingo, she cant manage to eat a banana on acid. She finds herself feeling silly and easily distracted.

Hope it helps,
Gileas

[Jatelka]

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[Demonslayer]

Food is really strange when tripping and if you look too long at it, it will start moving. The idea of moving food kinda stops my appetite in it's tracks, specially when it looks like it contains small maggots or fractal bugs.
The taste of fruits and vegetables are unbelievably good, but even they can look worm or bug infested. Fruit and veggies are just plain fun to look at and the Romanescu cabbage is trippy all by it's sober self.

Proscessed foods, specially containing fish, meat and animal fats are downright disqusting. Try a shrimp noodle soup or fried bacon next time you trip and you'll get the picture.
Herb tea or mushroom tea (non-hallucinogenic) is SWIM's favorite thing to ingest while tripping. Vanilla icecream with cinamon and warm honey is also heavenly.

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[gileas]

SWIM was irresponsible and she would apologize if she posted while new and if she had she would be the type of girl to extend a thank you for assistance offered by ADMIN types if she was the sort of person who knew SWELSE who accidentally posted in violation of policy, and SWIM is certainly the type of girl to go carefully read the policy and make a sincere effort not to be such a newb idiot futurewise. SWIM is the type, however, to post in a sort of "trying to be helpful" way, but she once knew someone who was prone to posting while perhaps it would have been best to wait until that person had a more clear head before doing so... SWIM once read not to bother PMs to ADMINS or she would have done such a thing that way, possibly, knowing her, but is also the type not to throw gas on fire, and would probably hope an apology following a thread post which was irresponsiblely written would be accepted in the spirit offered. SWIM isnt a bad girl, just not used to SWIMing, and hopes she is getting used to it, if she might be the type to try and who could be the type to try to offer alagories and hypotheticals she heard at the pub from someone who's friend thought she heard it at the market. SWIM also is sort of awkward writer, but possibly will get better with time.

PS: SWIM heard that LSD is best a known element, she heard a record of "Woodstock" where a person on the PA system announced "Don't eat the brown acid, its creating a lot of bad trips, please do not eat it," and SWIM thought "how terrible," and made sure she always got everything from KNOWN origins, which had first hand experience with trying what she took, or even closer relationships to it than trying it, and SWIM never, ever had a bad experience following this simple rule. SWIM knew someone who didnt follow this, and who, as we might say, "ate the brown acid" and had to carefully ease this friend through a really terrible time. SWIM believes not only in hydration, but even more in "know thy source well" type of thinking.
SWIM can't imagine someone taking something from a stranger, and would emphasize this as probably so much more critical than what to eat that its like, something more important by magnitudes of orders. SWIM is the type to be grateful for assistance in learning from her mistakes, and would probably say she feels thankful and owes someone who helped her if they did, and isnt a bad person, just a bit green around the gills.

[Dj mOonShiNe]

cold carrots.

[CherryCake]

A word of advice; if you go to a pub ask for a drink WITHOUT ice. I have nerly choked and died from swallowing an ice cube while high.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Self incrimination, and your post really doesn't deal with the main subject.

[funkspiel]

And to this day, it's rare to find brown acid. Can't shake that bad rep.

the usual, jello and applied whipped cream.

[Wflash]

SWIM and his brother were tripping once when a non-tripping friend turned up. The friend decided to go to the shop and asked the two LSD-addled fools if they wanted anything brought back. Both ordered an ice lolly, as they reckoned it was something they would be able to manage.

They thought wrong. Twenty minutes spent nibbling, experimentally chewing, making pained expressions and shaking their heads culminated in them both throwing the uneaten ice creams at their friend. They thought that this was hilarious, though the friend thought it less so for some reason.

[mfrieze]

ICE CREAM! swim loves it.. vanilla taste so amazing and also the superman ice cream at united dairy farm always looks cool

[DirT_WeeD]

orange juice and candy(skittles, jolly ranchers...)

[CRUNK]

A fat retarded hippo likes to eat Munchie Patatoe Chips while he's tripping. To him, the flavors taste so much more better when he's Trippin'

[primal440]

This will not be of much contribution as most likely everything of value has been said, but I'd like to add this experience of SWIM's to the bag:

He was once comming up and he realized he had to eat something as he hadnt eaten all day and tripping and starving at the same time is not really appealing. His friend was at that moment preparing some spaghetti so SWIM thought he should take a few just to have some energy for the next few hours. The LSD had moderate anorectic effects on SWIM but he still could force him to swallow some oscillating pasta which tasted rather funny, I wouldnt say better or worse, just different. Long story short, about 10 mins after, he was still coming up and started to feel the digestive process so clearly, a bit disturbing and nauseating, he heard his body and went to vomit 3 times and each time he came back higher than before. It isn't pleasant to vomit while tripping but he guesses he never would have gotten that pyschedelic head rush full-force if he didn't. Still, he will never repeat this mistake again as it was very disturbing at first; he has since that time kept food for AFTER the peak is over- thank you very much.

[CRUNK]

Originally Posted by primal440

he has since that time kept food for AFTER the peak is over- thank you very much.

Very true, a fat retarded hippopatamus thinks that the best time to eat is while comming down, because your still tripping, and the flavors from any kind of food are just amplified.

[Jatelka]

^^^ Not true about the Vitamin C terminating a trip.

Found this (Source: Bob Greer, MAPS):

"A study in the 1970's examined a large group of chemicals for an immunizing agent to protect people against the effects of LSD.

The study checked over 200 compounds and found only two with significant prophylactic effects (i.e., that created a tolerance to LSD).

The most effective one was LSD itself. Nothing developed a tolerance to LSD better than the drug itself.

The other was Vitamin C, which ameliorated the confusion associated, often, with LSD. The researches commented strongly on the alteration of the effect: people who pre-treated with Vitamin C "tripped" but were less inclined to "get lost" in the experience and apparently maintained a less conspicuous social poise. (The potency of the LSD was also somewhat reduced, but this did not account for the _qualitative_ difference in the experience for these people, according the researchers.)

The study didn't relate the dosages or interval between Vitamin C and LSD administration. However, the "street knowledge" about this is:

1. The Vitamin C can prevent (sort of) the LSD experience if they are consumed together, especially if the Vitamin C dose is large (1 gram or more). A sort of mild up-and-down experience can result from this combination
2. Taking the Vitamin C two hours before LSD works well.
3. Taking enough Vitamin C to saturate the tissues works well if enough time is allowed (2 hrs., perhaps less).
4. The LSD effect is slightly weaker, quantitatively speaking, than without Vitamin C, and ends sooner too.
5. It's typically easier to sleep afterwards also.
6. The "sense" of time, and of distances, is less disturbed with also.

3 grams of Vitamin C will saturate most people's bodies well. A good method of eating this much C without gastric discomfort is to drink a solution of 3 grams of buffered Vitamin C that is dissolved (not just stirred into!) in a glass of water. (People who keep their bodies saturated with Vitamin C may notice that their urine is colored a brilliant yellow color. This is normal.)

It's possible that a smaller dose of Vitamin C will have the same effect on LSD effects; a half-gram tablet might be sufficient for example. However, a significant time delay will still be required before taking LSD.

I suspect that the "confusion" that Vitamin C reduces is actually very valuable for death-rebirth religious experiences; it's not a "bad side-effect" of LSD, in other words. However, such confusion makes an LSD user very vulnerable to "head-trips" and other dangers (that may occur either inside or outside of a "controlled setting"). There seems to be less of the amphetamine-like edginess of LSD in this combination; and I suspect the difference is not just the result of acidic urine washing the body clear of an exogenous amine.

The Vitamin-C ameliorated LSD experience sounds a lot like that ascribed to LSD analogues (such as the di-allylamide) although the potency is only slightly less than plain-vanilla LSD. For example, visiting a badly maintained, nudie-strip bar favored by US Marines on the 4th of July in a border town near Camp Pendelton would (for an experienced LSD user) be
practical on the Vitamin C-LSD combination; the same situation might be unendurable otherwise. Likewise, law-enforcement personnel will notice a difference in poise, but they will not necessarily feel threatened by it.

Incidentally, ingesting LSD dissolved into (chlorine-free) water will smooth the introductory phase of the experience (regardless of Vitamin-C pre-treatment); LSD taken on paper tends, otherwise, to start very abruptly."

*NB This is NOT a recommendation to start necking large quantities of vitamins* (SWIJ's addition!)

Also found this:

"Ascorbic acid. Hoffer(1959) pretreated a few subjects with 4 grams of ascorbic acid each day for several days, then gave them LSD. Other subjects were given ascorbic acid at the height of the experience. This vitamin did not change the intensity of the experience but it did alter its quality. there was no decrease in the intensity of perceptual changes. the subjects were able to concentrate better and developed less paranoia. twenty-four hours later subjects who had been give ascorbic acid were not as tired as the controls"

Reputation Comments on this post:

	You always contribute useful technical and medical information. Thank you.
	thanks!

[CRUNK]

Originally Posted by Jatelka

3 grams of Vitamin C will saturate most people's bodies well. A good method of eating this much C without gastric discomfort is to drink a solution of 3 grams of buffered Vitamin C that is dissolved (not just stirred into!) in a glass of water. (People who keep their bodies saturated with Vitamin C may notice that their urine is colored a brilliant yellow color. This is normal.)

Jatelka taking that much vitamin C can be bad for you. Some people who have taken a bunch of vitamin C pills, the pills get stuck in the digestive track in people's stomache, causing them to create ulcers in the stomach's. I'm not saying it's going to happen, just be carefull when taking alot of it.

[London_Bloke]

^^^ The recommendion was that when taking large doses, do so in the form of buffered ascorbic acid.

No one said anything about stuffing one's self with 6 500 mg tablets.

[CRUNK]

Did you read my post? I was just making a recommendation. I wasn't even accusing her of taking pills just telling her to watch out when taking high doeses.

[CorvinusX]

Chocolate pudding. Pretzels with the big salt crystals. More for the textures than the taste.

Eat a raw lemon. That'll blow your mind.

[losd]

Originally Posted by CorvinusX

Eat a raw lemon. That'll blow your mind.

Yikes. That reminded SWIM of the time she ate a whole lemon, peel and all, and it made her mouth burn in a very unpleasant way for awhile after. Citrus in general is good on LSD though, oranges and orange juice especially. Other than that, if SWIM must eat, small amounts of candy or ice cream are ok. SWIM doesn't like to eat while tripping, and usually doesn't. The trip feels "purer" if she keeps her body empty. When the trip is over she enjoys a good meal. Unless SWIY is hypoglycemic or has a very fast metabolism, it's ok to go 12 hours without eating, or even 24+ hours. Just be sure to drink water so SWIY doesn't dehydrate, especially if SWIY is active during the trip.

[Nagognog2]

Jatelka:

The CIA found that pre-administration of BOL-148 (bromolysergic acid diethylamide) acted to block the effects of a subsequent dose of LSD-25. Never mind why they were searching for such.

More food? Escargot and Calf's Brains in a creamy white-sauce, of course! Magnifique!

[Jatelka]

SWIJ was simply quoting a source, not making a recommendation, or saying that this is what she does.

SWIJ thanks CRUNK for their concern, and commends them on making a very valid point.

PS CRUNK: It is possible to quote a limited part of a post, to allow people to find information more easily

[Alicia]

Also too much vit c can contribute towards not only ulcers but can cause cancer but this as she is sure is only due to excessive amounts.

Same for mushies swia and on lsd-25, always did like peperami's specially the red hot ones always seems amazing to eat when tripping not to mention the spicey ones makes swia tongue go wild. lol and everyone male in the room seems like watching swia eat them dunno what there referring too thou or why they dont watch her eat normally when she sober.. strange people.

Grapes she seems to be very fond of too after a dip in a floatation tank..

hmmm wonder what dolphin taste like as its a mammal, not a fish???..that question came again on her last "trip" occasion that seemed to repeat it self with endless possibilities.

Usually thou swia finds it impossible to eat anything even towards the end as she is overwhelmed in a good way and don't want to risk bringing herself down from the experience.

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by Alicia

Also too much vit c can contribute towards not only ulcers but can cause cancer but this as she is sure is only due to excessive amounts.

References please.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Alfa

References please.

This was something originally swia was told about, she had her doubts as well so doing a search found this its inconclusive thou and bare in mind i am referring to large amounts of vitamin c consumed on a daily basis for months on end.

Cant find the link i got this from so i posted it, also
this one goes into it as well.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl..._6/ai_78539415

They Say That Vitamin Can Increase the Risk of Cancer
Oh yes? And who's 'they'?
Steven Ransom

"Vitamin C Cancer Fear. High doses of Vitamin C could increase the risk of cancer, scientists warn today ... ."

So begins the 15th June 2001 UK Daily Mail front-page report,outlining the work of Dr Ian Blair, resident researcher at the University of Pennsylvania Pharmacology Unit. The Mail headline appears to be in direct conflict with Dr Blair's own statement:



"Absolutely, for God's sake, don't say Vitamin C causes cancer." (Yahoo News, Thursday June 14th, 2001) But of course, The Mail and others have shamelessly done exactly that. To the less discerning reader, the story raises worrisome questions as to the wisdom of high-level Vitamin C supplementation. If these worldwide headlines have served any useful purpose at all, it has been to confirm the moral/intellectual void currently reigning in today's mass media 'news' departments.

At a more fundamental level, why is Dr Blair conducting tests on the efficacy of Vitamin C at all? We are about to discover that certain parties have a very definite interest in casting aspersions upon Vitamin C. Yet again, we are being taught what to think about a certain subject, but not how. To our knowledge, the information you are about to read has not been included in any of the latest, and now worldwide 'Vitamin C Cancer Scare' headlines generated by Dr Blair's findings.

A Golden Rule
Dr Blair postulates that high consumption of Vitamin C (a most beneficial adjunct in non-toxic cancer recovery treatment) might actually cause human tissue degeneration,which in turn could lead to a heightened risk of contracting cancer.

And it is here that we arrive at our first golden rule: when it comes to assessing the veracity of any scientific claim, we must always read between the lines - we must search for what the report does not say. We must especially be on the look-out for that hoary old chestnut, otherwise known as vested interests. A University of Manchester research methodology handbook contains the following valuable advice:

"Science and research must be studied in the context of all the interested parties involved. The questions centre on determining the relative weight of the various allies in the 'fact-creating' process - e.g. funding bodies, businesses, departments of state, professions and other scientists.



In analysing scientific debates, one should always ask what social, institutional, political and philosophical interests lie behind often apparently 'neutral' and 'technical' knowledge claims." (University of Manchester Institute of Science & Technology (UMIST) research methodology course handout, 1994) (emphasis mine)

On the matter of the 'fact creation' process, renowned author John Le Carre recently stated:

"Big Pharma [the industry in general] is engaged in the deliberate seduction of the medical profession, country by country, worldwide. It is spending a fortune on influencing, hiring and purchasing academic judgment to a point where, in a few years' time, if Big Pharma continues unchecked on its present happy path, unbought medical opinion will be hard to find." (The Nation, New York, Interview with John Le Carre, 9th April 2001)

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[SlowTime]

Try touching, and eating, an orange. SWIY told me it was an interesting feeling.