Injecting - Dextroamphetamine extraction issues

[beccag]

This is most certainly a harm reduction issue, as swims friend will be injecting these with or without additional info. Swims next door neighbor has been injecting sustances for several years, so he doesn't have the fear associated with that in itself. Recently he was prescribed Dextroamphetamine, in the 10 mg, barr labs, instant release variety. Previously, he had success injecting the generic, pink adderall pills, by simply dissolving in distilled water + 10% ethanol, and pressure filter with cotton syringe, leaving a very clear liquid without even a trace of the pink dye. When he got the barr Dex pills, mixing with water yielded a gooey orange mess that was not filterable by any means. When mixed with pure, 95% eythanol, the goo did not occur, and it was filtered and evaped, leaving a slightly sticky orange substance that was scraped from the glass. However, after reading that the sulfate solubility is one in 515, for the alchohol, as opposed to 8.8 for water, he wondered if he was loosing to much to the lower solubility. He tried a 50/50 solution with wather and ethanol, which was filtered easily, but the resulting paste that was scraped up after evap, was very sticky, and when it was mixed with dry acetone for a wash, it did not dissolve, at ALL!

Does anyone know a way to extract the dex from these pills with suitable results and yield? My friend is someone I care about greatly, so I am hoping to help him so that he doesn't hurt himself. I have no doubt that he is going to do this, so please help other than to say "don't do it".

beccag added 1374 Minutes and 36 Seconds later...

Swim was surprised that no information came up to help her friend. Since swim spent many hours searching this site and others, this info seems to be hard to find, but there must be other swimmers who have attempted this process. Swim did find posts that appeared to be the same Dex pill, but since the poster mentioned simple filtering of the solution with water, it must have been a previous version of the drug. Swim sees her friend continue to inject, and wonders about the danger, but hopes some other swimmer will help...

[hamsterdam]

If you're going to be shooting pills, you should be using a high-purity extraction method such as acid/base.

Even with the original pills, just because it LOOKS clear does not mean it's safe. There very well could be dissolved solids that will precipitate out AFTER you inject it that could be very dangerous.

A well performed acid/base extraction will result in a finished product that's near 100% purity and with nearly zero loss of the drug. Swim is not a chemist so he can't advise you on how to go about doing this, but if you look up the concepts of an acid/base it may be worth learning how to do. It's not that complicated. Difficulty depends on the particular salt that you have.

[beccag]

Swim is certainly grateful, and has been looking at swiHS pill extraction post with focus on a/b. One question swim keeps dreaming, which seems search brings many varied answers, concerns tone drying time. Most say 48 hrs, but can be speeded up with heat. But some posts mention solid residue from tone that requires time, not heat. Is tone drying time independent of temp, and will any residue be washed with alchohol?

[SPEEDBABY]

I wish SWIM knew more about the preparation for amphetamine injections. Prior to this, SWIM's only experience was shooting morphine and heroin many years ago, a relatively easy process. Being the crazy bastard that SWIM is, however, SWIM decided to do a series of IM injections without necessary preparation. SWIM (before knowing what SWIM knows now) cooked up a 20 mg Adderall IR (heroin-style) and injected it into his bicep (goo and all). No effects were felt and severe muscle pain was felt in the area where SWIM had injected. On another occasion, however, SWIM crushed up 15 mg of Dexedrine Spansules, allowed them to dissolve in cool water and then administered a shot almost identical to the IM shot SWIM had given himself with the adderall. This time, effects were felt (although no more intensely than they would have been if ingested any other way, SWIM said) and there was no pain. That prompted SWIM to attempt another such experimentation at a later date whereby he injected two 15 mg Dexedrine Spansules (dissolved in cool water) into his right buttock. Effects were felt, SWIM informed me, but there was some muscle discomfort. SWIM wasn't sure what a micron filter is, but he would like to continue his experiments, although he finds himself afraid of the potential repercussions of this "Cowboy-Guinea Pig" approach he has thus far taken. SWIM needs to learn more on the topic, before SWIM takes anymore unnecessary risks in his approach. SWIM has heard that due to binders and so forth, in pharmaceuticals, it can be very dangerous to slam pills without the proper preparation.