Drug info - Alprazolam (Xanax) Powder

[Nicaine]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would it need to be soluble in water? SWIY could just shake the liquid thoroughly to put it into suspension, then immediately do whatever it is to be done with it, i.e. treat it as if it were dissolved. That should work well enough.

[hotaru]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would it need to be soluble in water? SWIY could just shake the liquid thoroughly to put it into suspension, then immediately do whatever it is to be done with it, i.e. treat it as if it were dissolved. That should work well enough.

Suspension is very different than dissolution in this case. Even if shaken, it will still be a non-homogeneous mixture, so decanting a certain volume of liquid will not yield a certain dosage of crystal. The amount will vary depending on the randomness of the distribution and one's ability to get the crystals to "go with" the alcohol however it is divided. One would do better to avoid the hassle of dissolving it and just eyeball a small amount, or measure the smallest amount possible on a scale and divide fractionally from there. If done this way, start at the smallest amount possible and make sure you allow enough time for effects to manifest before titrating upwards.

Still, as Forthesevenlakes mentioned, a 1-2mg scale is really necessary to do this safely. If SWIY is going to be experimenting with psychoactives in this way, invest the money! They're available for less than $100 shipped.

The best method SWIM came across so far is dissolving 1g per 100mL of grain alcohol (95%), resulting in a 10mg/mL solution. This could be measured accurately with any small syringe, even the kind used for babies at department stores (oral syringes). This source mentioned that other alcohols wouldn't dissolve it completely, but that might be debatable.

SWIM can sympathize with the difficulty in obtaining alcohol, especially nearly-pure grain alcohol that isn't available everywhere. Please use extreme caution, and if anyone tries a different alcohol or method of decanting, start with very small amounts and make sure you can see the amount of powder the first couple times so there aren't any surprises.

Oh yeah, and enjoy yourself

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[Ranke]

Does anyone happen to know how soluble alprazolam is in ethanol and methanol. If I can get that data I will be able to decide whether or not I can use mouthwash (which has both methanol and ethanol) as a solvent.

[Forthesevenlakes]

SWIM's not sure that it would even go into suspension effectively in water, plus it seems too risky to try this with a huge amount of alprazolam unless someone else can confirm that this would work for sure.

[Ranke]

SWIM does have access to dmso but no cash left over after the alprazolam. Also swim would like to avoid the suspension method it seems to be begging for an overdose. Is alprazolam soluble in isopropal alcohol? If not does anyone know how many mg per ml dissolve in ethanol and at what temperature? If that amount is acceptable swim will just use mouth wash.

[Jatelka]

Someone on another forum claimed to get a 20mg/ml solution with 80% proof vodka.

With regards to methanol: SWIJ has seen a figure of 8.2mg/ml but is unclear how reliable that source is.

Any SWIY got a Merck Manual?

[radiometer]

Not sure if this is the part you need, but nonetheless a helpful web reference:

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/home.jsp

[Ranke]

Thanks to both of you, thats the info I needed. I also found out alprazolam breaks down in acidic conditions. So I have decided to abandone the idea of mouth wash, to many varibles. Instead I will suck up the cost and buy some white lightning which should produce consitant results.

[Sklander]

Everclear worked great for a friend of SWIM's. SWIM believes he did it so that he could inject the solution into marshmellows, gummy worms, jelly beans... etc.

"What are those marshmellows you have their, son?"
"I really like marsh mellow's, officer... Care for you?"

[mfrieze]

Swim is about to get 10 grams of alprozolam and 10 grams of diazepam powder. Swim does not have that great of a scale with him at the time (swims good scale is at his fathers). Swim knows he can measure 1 gram accuratly. Is there any other way to measure dosages of 10mg valium and 2mg xannax without a scale if you know u have 1 gram. I know neither is soluble in in water but i know alprozolam is in 95% aclohol

[DrMuffy]

Wow! now thats alot of benzos! Why are they in powder form? Wouldnt SWIY rather get the actual pill so he knows exactly what hes getting? Anyways SWIY is on his own there with the measuring. Eyeballing it out is the only way SWIdr can think of measuring it, and boy oh boy is that gonna be hard for the alprazolam. Why dont you eyeball out the diazepam (easier to do, since larger dosage) and save he alprazolam until you get back to our father's house?

[Psych0naut]

Regarding potency, Alprazolam and DOI are practically the same, now SWIY won't eyeball DOI won't he ?
Diazepam is in SWIMs opinion too potent to eyeball as well, SWIY will be needing a mg scale to measure doses for both.
1 gram of more of Alprazolam dissolved in a known quantity of fluid would be good, or measuring out individual doses of Diazepam.

[kapten]

Jetelka, you may want to double check your ref. because the following Drug Data lists oxazepam as almost insoluble in water.

http://chrom.tutms.tut.ac.jp/JINNO/D...9oxazepam.html

[Jatelka]

Old thread, I have been corrected on this previously (edited anyway)

[Psych0naut]

There is a water soluble version of oxazepam on the markt as well, oxazepam hemisuccinate. Loprazolam is water soluble as well.

[brooooooo!]

anyone have any experience with this stuff?
as far as dosing goes...how much is equal to say a bar of xanax?

[Matt The Funk]

2mg....A "xanny bar" has 2mg of alprazolam. Never had experience with pure powder but plenty with the pills. Don't see how they would differ much.

[JaWill88]

yeah it's quite simple. to reach a dosage equivelant to a 1mg xaxax (alprazolam) bar, than 1mg of alprazolam would be needed. 2mg of powder of a 2mg xaxax bar. kind of obvious lol. unless the powder is cut or something.

[moda00]

One will need an accurate scale for these measurements.. a second best would be to know how much one has.. ie. 30mg total, then divide into 30 piles of 1mg each.. but when it comes down to potent substances with dosing in the mg and even sub-mg level, it really absolutely is worth investing in a scale that can read mg and a set of weights or whatever you wanna call them- often available in head shops etc.- for accurate taring of said scale. Good luck!!

[brooooooo!]

ok thanks. i didnt know if the pure powder was equal to the bars. as in the amount of alprazolam in a bar, i wasnt sure if a 2mg bar was actually 2mg of pure xanax. thanks all.

[old hippie 56]

Might be advisable to get some accurate scales to do the measuring, kinda hard to eyeball powder.

[Jatelka]

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