Religion

[BluntSkunk]

I find these a good place for like mindedpeople to chat in order for u to be here means you want to have your views discussed andchallanged unlike most people who we meet in the real world


so religion my topic, lets ignor all the corruption that has changed the true meaning of it all instead of arguing concept we are aguing supposed fact wich i think is silly i dot beleave any one knows for sure so who do the people who view these forums beleave arre most drug takers atheist or does these magic substances make us beleave in the unseen ?


what drugs do u take what do u beleave and why and how sure are you on your views ( blind faith??) and why do so many people not have the same effects as some some use them as stimulents some use them to change the way there brain evaluates our normal life


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[oggy]

Salvia made me think you are not real and nether is any of my friends of family


I saw my whole family,friends and everyone I metjust disapear it was arealylonely feelingand freeked me out for a long time.


Maybe thats why I made you guys to keep me from being alone.

[Solidly-here]

Religion . . . buy it, or don't buy it. Who cares (but you)?

I believe in things I cannot see. God is one of those things. I believe that this World itself is just a dream. Therefore, I don't believe in some things I CAN see.

What is the difference between an Atheist and a Believer? Not much. To an Atheist, the World is the same place it is for me. We both have the same diseases, the same things to look at, the same deaths.

The only difference is believing in something Bigger (a Divine plan). So, until I die, there is no difference in our lives. After death is the same too. If there's a God, then there will be an afterlife for both of us. If there's a heaven, then at least some people will get in, but exactly who will live there is an un-answered question. Wait and see.

"Blind Faith" . . . what does this mean? Trying to feel Faith, without ever feeling that there is something Bigger? What is Faith? Maybe it's believing that a helicopter will fly, even though I don't know how it works. Most people have Faith in science; it's so complex these days that scientists from one discipline can't understand the science their fellow scientists know.

Part of life is believing in things I don't understand. Religion is just one More thing I don't understand.

[IHrtHalucingens]

im not a religious person, and msot likely never will be. im a big believer in science and proof. i cannot believe in somehting without proof of it existing. i take some drugs to experience life through a different perspective, it helps me keep an open mind and i have "religious" experiences on them, however it has nothing to do with god, it has to do with chemicals and reactions in my body. if i were to categorize myself as anything it would be more towards buddhism, although i dont know about the re incarnation, i do believe in karma. if i do good things good things will happen to me, it may jsut be coincidence but i have seen proof of this in my life. i may be wrong about htis and i might go to hell for not believing but i live my life as if it is the last and only one i will have, and try to make it the best it can be, if this keeps me out of an eternity of happiness after i die ohh well i wil lhave no regrets, i cannot believe in somehting thats existence is pure speculation. thats my opinion, iknow other people have different ones and everyone is entitled to their own, i dont hate on people who believe in God or religion i jsut do not agree with them.

[bcStoner420]

I will have to go with science on this one also, while i dont completely dismiss the idea of a higher being and even at times hope its true, science has shown its proofs whereas religions have not. I am always open to new ideas though, i have not completely researched all the different religeons either. As of now i see it as a way to controll actions, an early form of LAW ENFORCEMENT if you will. I have done a large range of drugs in the past, too many to list off. If there is a higher being, i dont think he would view drugs as a "sin", many of them are great ways to expand ones self. To view the greater boarders of reality and think/form ones opinions on them. Personally on mushrooms, i have thought about quantum physics alot, its a mind blowing concept that really intrests me. There is actually a movie on it, called "What the Bleep do we Know?" Anyone else intrested in this science HAS to watch it, it really opened up my mind to alot of different things, it even challenges religion in some ways.

[Nature Boy]

I use pot, drink, mushrooms and acid mainly. I'm a complete non-believer. I'm not expecting an afterlife. Death is the exact same as before birth in my opinion: non-existence. I'm about as certain on my views as I'm ever likely to be.

[emineo]

Modern religion is very modern. 1 or 2 thousand years is nothing in terms of longevity. Most people realize modern christianity is far different from its fledgling beginnings.

Anyway, currently reading a couple things written by Helena Blavatsky. She lived and died in the nineteenth century. May have lived into the twentieth, but I'm not positive.

She wrote a lot about wisdom-religion or truth-religion which pre-dates a lot of "modern" faith-religions.

Very interesting stuff. Enlightening and eye opening.

Supposedly Einstein kept a copy of her book The Secret Doctrine with him on his desk. If you read her writings, you can see where Einstein could have gotten the idea for e=mc^2.

It's tough reading, but if you're into metaphysics it should be par for the course. Maybe a little more superfluous than necessary, but she was a literary genius at the very least. Perhaps even a fully enlightened individual.

If you're asking yourself questions about religion/god/etc, you owe it to yourself to at least browse her writings.

Here's a link to an online version of her most popular work, The Secret Doctrine:

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

[one4thedoc]

"But it is perhaps desirable to state unequivocally that the teachings, however fragmentary and incomplete, contained in these volumes, belong neither to the Hindu, the Zoroastrian, the Chaldean, nor the Egyptian religion,.neither to Buddhism, Islam, Judaism nor Christianity exclusively. The Secret Doctrine is the essence of all these. Sprung from it in their origins, the various religious schemes are now made to merge back into their original element, out of which every mystery and dogma has grown, developed, and become materialised. "
-exerpt from The Secret Doctrine Preface

One thing I have learned, the importance of keeping an open mind. This doctrine looks to explore as unbiased as possible. Looking forward to the read.

Also, I heavily recommend "What the Bleep do We Know", as it is a mind-opening experience.

[Creeping Death]

God is to me a form of control (that is now sadly in control of our society). A way to make people belive that there is something "greater" than themselves. The greatest thing is always yourself. Because if there is no you, there can't be anything else either. How can you percive a world, or a god if you don't exist? To me, living by rules at all is a horrible way to waste your life, and this is what mainstream religions are all about. Rules.

Why adopt the beliefs of other people when you have a mind of your own?

[polloloco001]

i am not religious. i agree particularly with nature boy liam and creeping death. im pretty sure theres no god as described in the jewish/christian/muslim religions. there may be some more powerful driving force behind the universe but in my opinion it would be less like a god and more like some kind of all encompassing physical law which could be proven to govern the course of the universe. certainly no bearded man sitting on a cloud, the idea is ludicrous. i have used marijuana, mushrooms, ecstasy, lsd, cocaine, as well as various rx drugs and stuff like dxm.

[Chaote]

I personally am a humanist and i put my faith in humanity, "no god man could ever fathom is more powerful than man itself", i am becoming more and more adverse to the ideas of entheogenic drug use, it seems like something ppl say just to feel superior to other drug users. I use grass, mushrooms, XTC, LSD, cocaine, salvia, DXM and anything else that comes around

[Pele]

I am an atheist. In my opinion, the best definition of religion is the attempt of man to meaningfully relate himself to other people, everything around him, and also himself. A means of forming an opinion about everything, for example the most prevelent question of how all of this came into being. This is essentially what all religions boil down to, explanations for things we don't have answers for.
The mass majority of people don't even think about concepts like this, they just accept previously established explanations (religions) because its simply to difficult of a task to form their own educated opinions. People these days need to think for themselves, and not be afraid to sway from tradition which only exists because of generations of laziness.
Mans curious nature indefinately leads one to ask this question, and with a question as widespread as this, one that pertains to everyone, we are left with a large number of explanations. What must be realized is that not one religion, not one explanation has been verified by the masses, there is no explanation that can be proven to be true, there simply IS NO ANSWER so far. Words are obviously man made, and just because there is a word to describing something doesn't mean its subject is true itself. Hence the rise of the concept of "faith".
Personally, i dont see the relevance of having to answer the question of how we got here. I dont need an answer to that question in order to live my life to the fullest. I would rather just focus on living my life, being happy doing it.
People these days use religion to tell them how to live their lives, focusing on how to improve the quality of a manmade concept of an "afterlife". My question is, if life is so precious, why do so many people waste THIS LIFE as a slave to some greater power that promises a better afterlife?
This is the only life we know, theres no proof of an afterlife no matter how many tall tales are made up for entertainment, no matter how many times someone incorrectly perceives perfectly physically explainable events as "supernatural", and most of all, no matter how many other people believe those stories never having experienced them theirselves.

Dont waste it!