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Old 30-03-2010, 14:59
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injecting ice

hi all. swim is kind of new to the injection of meth/ice. normally swim is a cocaine user but has come across some really good shit. anyway, i was reading in another post that you shouldnt heat meth because it causes it to evaporate. i guess swims first question is, are meth and ice the same thing? i mean, swim knows that they kinda are but they look totally different. and second question, do you heat the ice with the water in the spoon to melt it down? swim has been but came across that post about the meth evaporating and was just curious. thanks!
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Old 30-03-2010, 16:37
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Re: injecting ice

swim has always thought of ice and meth as the same. maybe its not though who knows.

dont heat it. its pointless. it will fully dissolve in h2o without heat. anything that doesnt dissolve isnt meth and should be filtered out.

swim has only ived it about 5 times. his stuff would always completely dissolve in h2o, which doesnt really mean that much. many cutting agents are water-soluble. such as MSM

meth iv is quite painful if swiy misses the vein, and can leave a mark
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Old 30-03-2010, 17:05
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Re: injecting ice

and it burns like a bitch! thanks! much appreciated.
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Re: injecting ice

Missing a shot of methamphetamine is very painful, but a missed meth shot is way more likely to cause problems with infection/abscess over missing a shot of an opiate.

SWIY never wants to heat meth, ice, or any amphetamine really. The heat is just destroying the dope.
SWIM would always have to advise not to IV any drug but realizes people are going to.

SWIM puts the amount he wants to do in the spoon and kinda crushes up the larger shards.
Adds 30-40 units of water to the spoon.
If its that bomb-digity dope he just sits back and lets it dissolve. SWIM may have to swirl/stir it around a little bit to get it all completely dissolved. If the dope is chopped all to hell, there could be anything left sitting in the spoon that won't dissolve out.
Draw up through a filter. Pay Attention! If there is shit that didn't dissolve out, you do not want to accidentally draw any type of particles up inside the rig.
SWIY seems to know what to do from here it.

SWIM hopes SWIY practices some harm reduction as much as possible.
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Old 07-04-2010, 23:54
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Re: injecting ice

ice does not have to be melted down to inject. just put it in a spoon with distilled water and stir it around. meth is water soluble. the heavy contaminates will sink to the bottom. then pull it up and enjoy the ride
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:32
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Re: injecting ice

treat it the same you would coke, even to the dose... 0.25g is a bell ringer and not for the first time
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Old 14-05-2010, 11:38
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Re: injecting ice

swim could remember the day when .25 was a bell ringer. hahahaha now swim does about 3-4 of those just to get normal and then the next .25 is the bell ringer haha does that make sense??
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Re: injecting ice

I'm not entirely certain what that last post was, but it was...interesting. Ice and meth are NOT the same thing, and those who say otherwise are sadly mistaken. Meth is, obviously, methamphetamine, while ice is 4-Methylaminorex, or 4-MAR, EU4EA, or who knows what other acronym. 4-Methylaminorex is the correct name, however.

Ice, when properly manufactured, is considerably more potent in both strength and addictiveness than meth. Because they look similar, unscrupulous dealers will often call meth "ice" in an attempt to market it as the stronger product. Believe me, there will be absolutely NO doubt in your mind if you ever get a hold of real ice!

Because meth dissolves so easily in water, there is normally no need to heat the water past what comes out of the faucet. The exception might be if you are doing a super-saturated solution as a blast, but that is the exception rather than the rule.

I have found, back when I still bothered with things like this, that the best way was to crush your product as fine as possible, add your pre-heated water, and allow to sit for a moment or two until it has dissolved. Stir a bit if necessary, filter, and draw up. The key was to crush as fine as possible and just wait on the water!
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Re: injecting ice

Swim just posted a querry earlier, and this thread might be his answer.

Swim thinks he might have gotten hold of ice a couple weeks ago on vacation and IV'd it. To be sure it was the most intense and shocking flash from a .4g point in his life.

According to this thread, there is a subtle difference between ice and meth. So Swim was wondering if it is impossible to purify meth powder to that nifty sensation he'd experienced on vacation with the more hard core stuff from the big city tweakers.
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Old 20-02-2012, 12:44
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Re: injecting ice

As a frequent user of ice SWIM can tell you that ice easily dissolves in cold water you don't need to heat up anything. You don't need to melt it down, if the crystal is nice and phat then just crush it up into fine powder. For breaking up large crystals so it easily dissolves in water just leave the big crystal in the plastic baggie that you get it in and crush it with a hard object against a hard surfer. For example, SWIM would put the bag of ice on SWIM's computer table and use the bottom end of a lighter and press on the ice, this crushes it up easily into tiny powder and leaves you with white fine powder in the baggie.

If your worried that you might leave bits of the ice powder in the baggie then put the ice onto your mixing spoon and crush it in there so you don't waste any amount. Just make sure you crush it carefully so you don't spill any thing outside the spoon.

Or if you mix your ice inside the fresh needle wrapper like SWIM some times when SWIM doesn't carry any spoons around then wrap the big crystals around in the needle wrapper then then crush it. Wrapping it around with the plastic ensure the crush ice won't spill out. =D

Thats what pretty much SWIM does every time before mixing it up to shoot. Those phat gorgeous crystals need to be finely crushed up to properly dissolve for injecting. Alot of times SWIM sees people trying to dissolve the big crystals but in the end still leaving behind a tiny rock of ice. Thats just wasteful, crush it up so it can all dissolves and you get all the ice.

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