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Old 29-03-2010, 06:06
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Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

This weekend the monkey wants to roll, and what he usually does is take one or two doses, wait for them to kick in, then snort a line of molly and be rolling HARD. However, he hates snorting ecstasy, it's painful, and now that he has a needle fixation could he just boot up the booster dose? He plns to shoot a bit less than he would snort and practice all the standard harm reduction techniques for both using MDMA and injecting drugs.
He KNOWS it's pure MDMA, by reputation of the seller alone would be enough, but it;s been tested, assayed by others, and the word is its some fine molly.

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Old 29-03-2010, 06:22
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

Well, if Swiy is so sure of purity and has IV'd before, Swim would say go for it! However, keep in mind the bioavailability of the substance. The bioavailability of MDMA insufflated is pretty close to oral bioavailablility, which isn't actually that high. From Swim's personal experience of rectal admin. of MDMA, only about half as much is needed. Since IV is an even more direct ROA than rectal, Swim would recommend using 50% his regular "booster dose." And be ready- many that have tried IV MDMA say it's quite a rush!

Good luck, no need to state "have fun!" on this one.
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Old 29-03-2010, 10:41
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

Knowing that there is No legal producers of MDMA, one of the problems with the clandestine manufacture of this chemical is poor quality assurance and the risk of contaminants and unwanted derivatives.
Even if MDMA tests positive, it doesn't mean that the chemical is pure. Many impurities can stay in the final product due to the poor synthesis techniques. Even if this is a supposition, the risk should be considered seriously.

Another risk, IM problem, which can lead to serious problems if swiy miss the vein while trying to inject IV. Complications due to infection, because even injections carried out by trained practitioners in sterile situations, using pure pharmaceuticals, are not without risk.
It's vitally important that the substance be pure, injecting cutting agents, additives, impurities can greatly increase the risk of developing life-threatening health complications.

The Devil don't see the need to inject anything which can just as easily be swallowed.

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good harm reduction info
it is very accurate, helpful information
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Old 29-03-2010, 23:34
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

Swim would not recommend injecting MDMA powder. Like it was said, even though it tests for mdma other adulterants could be present and dangerous to be injected. Swim would just stick to oral use as snorting is painful.

As for the needle fixation, well what has swiy been IVing? stick to that

Swim has a major needle fixation and knows he would probably inject anything and everything so it's best to get informed before injecting, possibly wait for someone who has had experience with this...
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Old 13-04-2010, 17:22
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

Don't even try it? swim agrees with Satan, why inject a substance which can be swallowed?
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Old 13-04-2010, 17:54
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

always contemplated this myself, but knowing the source (canada-west coast- east coast) all in the know are sure of the quality of the product. one big source supplies all on the scene in one way or another. How come others never tried this? How come SWIMs never heard of it? Maybe a safety reason, or probably bc in the scene IV use is in the shadows. But overall, I would try it in a rehular dose (1/10) and please let SWIY know!!
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Old 13-04-2010, 18:08
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

Not forgetting IV completly bypass's all the bodies defenses. Its like turning off a firewall and then downloading porn, you just dont do it because your so open.
Rectal administration is probably the best method whilst still being reasonably safe, although it may not be on par with the IV rush, its certainly better than oral ingestion or insufflation.

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Love that porn analogy!
This is false. Your blood is much better at killing bacteria than say your muscles, so IV is actually safer than IM/SC in terms of infection. Please don't generalize or speculate.
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Old 13-04-2010, 18:56
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

I dont have much to add regarding the safety on this..

If however SWIY tries it, please let us know how it goes.
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Old 14-04-2010, 04:19
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

if he lives thru it he will. Experimentation planned with verified pure mdma (all source issues considered ITD, swim thinks swi-we know the same people anyway) at a very very low dose for 2 weeks time in anticipation of festival season/money season/fun season.
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Old 14-04-2010, 09:12
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

How painful do swiys think snorting MDMA is? Swim had MDMA and snorted half of the first molly capsule, and there was an unpleasant burn, but swim wouldn't say it was excruciating, and it didn't burn for too long (he also snorted a tiny bit of water right after, which helped). Swim does agree that insufflating does burn enough that one would rather pop it though.
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Old 14-04-2010, 16:38
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

sorry the turtle has not replied to this sooner- took him a couple days to get into contact with an aardvark friend who has tried this ROA. Note that the MDMA used was of the absolute purest quality- piperonal as the precursor.

Anyway- he reports having tried it on a few occasions- starting w/ very small doses. He says this was nearly 20 years ago and can not safely remember the effective dose.

He reports it more like incredibly pure speed- less empathogenic, and in his opinion, was a waste of good MDMA. He figures this is why it is such a rare ROA.
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Old 16-04-2010, 23:56
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

^^^^... ok. SWIM knows that as a fellow Deadhead, SWIY knows his shit about these things, so maybe he won't try it, although he probably will just to get the "incredibly pure speed" feeling at some point, as speed is unavailable around here unless one wants to hassle college kids for their adderall or ritalin.
Pity that snorting it burns SO much, thats why he wanted to try a new ROA for his booster dose (his initial doses are always oral). However, something he's noticed with cocaine and heroin, is that dissolving the powder like one is about to IV it, drawing it up into a rig, breaking off the needle part and snorting the solution
A: gets one higher and quicker than snorting powder (not as high as IV but definitely more so than snorting powder
and
B: doesn't burn.
DEFINITELY going to try that ROA.
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Old 25-06-2010, 04:51
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Re: Safety of injecting pure MDMA powder

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Originally Posted by EyesOfTheWorld View Post
dissolving the powder like one is about to IV it, drawing it up into a rig, breaking off the needle part and snorting the solution
A: gets one higher and quicker than snorting powder (not as high as IV but definitely more so than snorting powder
and
B: doesn't burn.
DEFINITELY going to try that ROA.
that sounds like somthing swim has to try sometime with some H, I don't know how he hasn't thought of it already because he's always disliked the burn and snorts a shitload of water after to make sure it all gets absorbed as well as stop the burning.

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