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Old 08-10-2005, 03:47
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Has anyone tried this combo? I gotta say, the alcohol really takes this buzz to the next level. Even 1 drink can really boost the buzz and turn it into a definate high. Even with a tolerance to kratom, a little bit of booze really turns things up for me. Anyone else have any experience w/ this combo?
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Old 10-10-2005, 20:06
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I agree. For some reason red wine works quite well after kratom wheres things like beer/cider just make me bloated with the kratom.not to mutch alcohol thoughwith a high dose ofK you just feel like your going into a coma ! The alcohol seems to bring on the effects quicker say a couple of glasses of wine ore spirits. And it make the kratom feel more like a stronger sedative opiate.not that i've tried heroin ore morphine but you know whatmean.
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Old 10-10-2005, 22:30
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Yea, I tried drinking a few Guinness beers... Woa, way to much stuff in my stomach hehe. Liquors are good with kratom and wine goes well for me. The combo definately puts things at the more sedative end, but it also increases the body buzz for me. Very warm and pleasant.
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So Kratom liquor may be a nice experiment then.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:50
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Perhaps... But I still like eating the kratom more and then doing a shot when the buzz is starting. Timing is important I think.
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Just a quick question is eatingkratom twigs /leaves(comercial grade) powdered up in the blender (about 12 grams)without doing the double boil method eaten with appple suace/honey better than decentnormal qaulityresin. I ask this because swim pays £xxxx for 50 grams of resin for 5 doses wheres the comercial grade is £xxxx for 100 grams.


I think the best time for this combination isabout 30mts- 1 hour after you have had the kratom and your pupils are pin point then its time to have a moderate drink. as sands of time siad its a realy nice warming buzz..
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Old 11-10-2005, 22:56
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SWIM has tried rum with kratom, with good results. Although he never was too big a fan of either drug.
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Old 11-10-2005, 23:03
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Just a quick question is eating*kratom twigs /leaves(comercial grade) powdered up in the blender (about 12 grams)without doing the double boil method eaten with appple suace/honey better than decent*normal qaulity*resin. I ask this because swim pays £xx for 50 grams*of resin for 5 doses wheres the comercial grade is £xx for 100grams.


I think the best time for this combination is*about 30mts- 1 hour after you have had the kratom and your pupils are pin point then its time to have a moderate drink. as sands of time siad its a realy nice warming buzz..
So you asking which is better, resin or leaf. Swim likes leaf better because he can grind it and measure it out easily. With resin, you don't always know the strength. Leaf vendors usually tell you the strength of the product.

When swim gets resin, he generally cut it into peices and swallow like a pill. This method is extremely convenient and descrete. Resin is usually more expensive because it takes more work to get the final product, and if your buying from a small vendor, the price is likely to be higher because there may just be one guy doin all the work.

Price and potency wise, I would go with leaf all the way. With that 100 grams, you would have at least 10 doses.

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Old 12-10-2005, 01:33
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last time kratom was tried a single beer = massive wave of nausea in 10 minutes then vomit. Not fun. 3 beers, 2 trips to the bathroom, last one avoided feeling extremily bad.


it was tea made from resin. dosage iwas 11 grams each.Good effects, apart for the waves of nausea which lasted the two about 24 hours...enough to get one to keep away from the stuff for some time...


ah there's this thing about taking a drug orally, especially teas...too many bad memories

edit : this old experience was a actually an form of Kratom dosages, due to poorly labelled extracts and carelessness.

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Old 13-06-2009, 01:05
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Re: kratom + alcohol

Thanks for the info. Swim is glad he found this post about the beer and kratom. Swim was going to try it with some Guinesses as sands of time mentioned swiy did. But swim could easily see how Guiness would make swim feel wayyyy too full since the stomach seems to feel not bad just maybe a bit sensitive on enough kratom.

The red wine sounds interesting. Swim thinks he may try some kratom this evening and then a glass of red wine at about T+30.
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Old 15-06-2009, 00:43
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Re: kratom + alcohol

Y can have alcohol after kratom, but not kratom after alcohol, as it makes him sick
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Old 15-06-2009, 01:21
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Re: kratom + alcohol

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I gotta say, the alcohol really takes this buzz to the next level.
Anyone else have any experience w/ this combo?
Swim did end up trying it kratom with a glass of red wine about ten minutes after tossing and washing the kratom. It is quite a nice combination. It does seem to enhance the buzz nicely.

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Y can have alcohol after kratom, but not kratom after alcohol, as it makes him sick
Swim hasn't tried alcohol before kratom, but could see how it might make him sick. Kratom seems to make the stomach a bit delicate for a while after ingestion swim has noticed?
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Old 23-06-2009, 04:11
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Re: kratom + alcohol

Swim has been taking kratom with Coors Light regularly for over a year. Kratom tea (7 grams) per the Siebert recipe first, followed by a quick pounding of 12 ounces. And then another. This takes the edge off the come-up and is best done on an empty stomach lest it cause intense vomiting. In 15 minutes the fun begins.

The problem is that after almost a year and a half of this 2-3 times a week, the subsequent alcohol intake has gone from 6-8 Coors Lights to 10-12 Coors Lights, sometimes more. One might say with a predisposition to alcoholism, kratom may act like other legal compounds and make alcoholism worse over time.

Quitting both cold turkey has led to 3-4 days of diarrhea, general feeling of malaise, and a head feeling remarkably similar to Xanax withdrawal (but nowhere near as bad - hopefully not as long-lasting either). Some of these may be symptoms of diabetes or hypertension, neither of which have officially been diagnosed.

A fun ride, yes it is. But the longterm effects of regular use may be worse than the longterm effects of either on its own.
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Re: kratom + alcohol

A combo of Kratom and beer intensifies the feelings of euphoria for swim. The sum is greater than the parts, atleast for this swimmer.
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Old 24-06-2009, 06:49
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Re: kratom + alcohol

mixing alcohol with kratom, just makes swim throw up, and usually kills his buzz. however soaking kratom in alcohol & then drinking it down seems okay. once kratom has sat in his stomach for a couple of minutes alcohol is no good.
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Re: kratom + alcohol

Swim has an iron stomach and nothing really makes him throw up anymore but I can see where some who have milder stomachs and get nausea from either alcohol or kratom wouldnt want to mix them together.
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Re: kratom + alcohol

alcohol after kratom is good
alcohol before kratom = voms
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Re: kratom + alcohol

This girl I know used to drink- not much, but more than she would have liked to. Since starting kratom, she has zero desire to drink (unless she goes a few days without). The thought of drinking with kratom, she says, does NOT sound good to her. And she said the once or twice she tried, it made her VERY sleepy. SMMV, of course!
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Old 09-07-2009, 19:09
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Re: kratom + alcohol

a few beers wouldnt be bad if swiy made kratom tea but not after a toss and wash, swim gets nausea more from toss and wash but better high so its a toss up.
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Re: kratom + alcohol

holy cow, SWIM experiences possibly about x3 the euphoria with just a little bit of alcohol. About 8 oz. is about all it takes to enhance it 3 fold for SWIM.

DiabolicScheme added 7 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

SWIM would also like to add he took a heaping spoonful of powder + tagamet 200mg about 45 minutes before drinking some miller light.

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Re: kratom + alcohol

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Has anyone tried this combo? I gotta say, the alcohol really takes this buzz to the next level. Even 1 drink can really boost the buzz and turn it into a definate high. Even with a tolerance to kratom, a little bit of booze really turns things up for me. Anyone else have any experience w/ this combo?
Ya swim always has yagermesiter, hope I spelled that right haha. Anyway I take a shot after I ingested about a tablespoon of bali kratom and the effects are incredible, seems to be very sedating to a good point. For some reason this yager seems to work better than beer or any other type of hard liquor. Hope this helps salut man

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Re: kratom + alcohol

is alcohol and kratom even safe? i'd of thought it'd be a very bad combination as kratom is a lot like opiates right? o_0
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Re: kratom + alcohol

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is alcohol and kratom even safe? i'd of thought it'd be a very bad combination as kratom is a lot like opiates right? o_0
Probably not the safest thing to do you're right. Though kratom and alcohol are both nausea inducing substances so I think the risk of "overdosing" isn't as big of a risk as other classic opioids. Asphyxiation from vomiting in your sleep would actually be my major concern as far as this combination goes.
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Re: kratom + alcohol

I spent some time trying to comment, as this is an important topic @ this time for me. But for whatever reason-it doesn't post. getting frustrated

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Ok, seems to work now. I'm sick of being detailed and losing it; so I'll cut 2 the chase:
Alcohol/Ethanol (40% or 80 proof) is the absolute BEST way to extract All of the active alkaloids from the Kratom plant material! As it is not very soluble in water...
3oz alcohol/1 gram powder leaf, heat (don't boil!), let cool, siphon brown liquid, (tincture) leave plant matter. Yield is maybe 2.5 shots. But IMO it's like 3 times the potency of eating all that raw material. And it only takes 45 seconds in the microwave in a glass jar..
So, in essence I only need a third of what you all are consuming to get the same effect, but here's the catch: Now I have two addictive chemicals to kick. Which is NOT a pleasant prospect!
Peace!

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Re: kratom + alcohol

That is similiar to how i make my alcohol extractions.
Go to the second post in this thread TEK - Making a basic Kratom Extract http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=158056

I dont see how you are making it more potent, perhaps you can explain that?

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